Android vs IOS
I currently use the logos program on my macbook pro and my iphone, I was looking into getting a tablet and I'm torn between a Kindle Fire HD 7" and the new IPAD. I'm looking for some feedback on the following..
1. Does one or the other have less eye fatigue when reading?
2. I want to use the tablet primarily for Logos, are both apps for IOS and Android the same, are there some drawbacks to one or the other, advantages?
3. Overall preference, I like the small size of the Kindle Fire but it would be harder to type b/c of the keyboard, any opinions?
4. Would there be any other type of tablet that would be a better fit for me?
Thank you in advance for any feedback.
Bryan
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You could consider the iPad Mini...I know for the iPad you can get a full-size keyboard, I'm not sure about the Kindle Fire. I would suggest going to a store to compare the two.
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I second the recommendation of the iPad Mini. I have a Nexus 7 (which, if you go the Android route, you should consider over the Kindle, since it has much better reviews), but I would prefer the iPad Mini for a number of reasons. The iOS app for Logos is ahead of the Android version, the screen on the iPad Mini is larger, and iOS has much better native support for typing in Biblical languages.
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I considered the IPAD mini, however I've read bad reviews on the readability of the text and of course with Apple I'm sure by next March they will have a retina version of the IPAD mini and I will cheated once again by Apple.
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Android is better [;)]
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I considered the IPAD mini, however I've read bad reviews on the readability of the text and of course with Apple I'm sure by next March they will have a retina version of the IPAD mini and I will cheated once again by Apple.
If you're going to feel cheated by a new version of whatever you buy being available in a year, you'd do best to stay away from buying technology in general.
But you're right, the Nexus 7 does have better resolution, and it's quite nice to read on. The main reason I would sacrifice that quality for extra screen real estate is for side-by-side comparison. A 7" display is fine for reading a single book, but useless when I want to have a commentary or Greek text up next to the Bible passage I'm reading. If that's not what you're going for, you won't find any problems with it.
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If you're going to feel cheated by a new version of whatever you buy being available in a year, you'd do best to stay away from buying technology in general.
Agreed, the old axiom is true: "Most technology is outdated by the time you get it home and open the box"
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Have you thought about the Asus transformer?
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Jeffrey I am looking at the asus transformer infinity and was wondering if anyone had any feedback. I am in the market for a tablet and don't know if I should get the ipad, asus transformer . I also want to know whick OS should I get. Right now I use windows with logos. Thanks everyone in advance for your feedback.
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Also has any one tried the logos 5 on a windows 8 platform?
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Also has any one tried the logos 5 on a windows 8 platform?
Yes - a number of people have tried this and find it works fine (assuming they use the official Windows 8 release)
You will find some discussions in the Logos 5 (http://community.logos.com/forums/t/60711.aspx) and Logos 4 Windows (http://community.logos.com/forums/76.aspx) forums
Graham
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I have Logos 5 on Windows 8, but it's a laptop, not the Surface. It installed and runs without a problem. I like the Verse of the Day Win8 app: I set it to be my wallpaper when I log out. At this point, I would not use the Logos Bible Win8 app: my desktop application is far, far better.
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I had a Kindle, I sold it because I tired quickly with Amazon's control and didn't want to go the route of rooting. I now have a Nexus 7. It is very nice for reading. The screen on the 7 is a bit small to think of doing a lot of typing, I use it for a Bible when I am on the road and also for reading while away from my laptop. I have also used an Acer Iconium (it recently bricked on me). The larger screen and USB port gives it a bit more flexibility, but for reading, as well as some other points (Hebrew formats properly, unlike other Android versions) the Nexus 7 is my preference. For a bit more you can get the 10. Personally, I can't see paying the extra for the Apple Mini (or Ipad for that matter) and if you are not a Hebrew or Greek reader, Androids typically give you more for the money (my opinion).
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The reason for going iOS is the quality and number of programs compared to Android. There have even been some developers who had android divisions that left it because it was costing more than generated revenue. If Logos is your only reason for the tablet Android may well be your best option, but i have compared applications on both and wouldn't recommend an android based on what I have seen. Like I said if you like what it has to offer go for it, but I am happy to stick with my iOS devices.
-Dan
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I currently use the logos program on my macbook pro and my iphone, I was looking into getting a tablet and I'm torn between a Kindle Fire HD 7" and the new IPAD. I'm looking for some feedback on the following..
1. Does one or the other have less eye fatigue when reading?
2. I want to use the tablet primarily for Logos, are both apps for IOS and Android the same, are there some drawbacks to one or the other, advantages?
3. Overall preference, I like the small size of the Kindle Fire but it would be harder to type b/c of the keyboard, any opinions?
4. Would there be any other type of tablet that would be a better fit for me?
Thank you in advance for any feedback.
Bryan
I have a first generation iPad, and a first generation Samsung Galaxy Note.
If I were to replace my iPad today, I would most certainly choose the Galaxy Note 10.1, primarily because I love the S-Pen. One frustration I've had with the iPad involves precise accuracy when trying to touch a very small part of the screen, such as a footnote superscript. With the S-Pen. Drawing, writing, and more are enhanced with the S-Pen. There's no evidence Apple will counter with anything similar for their devices anytime soon.
You only get the S-Pen functionality with the Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Tab does not have it.
Additionally, the Samsung Note allows you to expand the memory with a removable micro SD card. I actually have more memory on my Note than the 64GB iPad. I can use one card fro "normal" day-to-day storage, such as a plethora of Logos books, but replace it with another if I want to use the device to take a lot of pictures. Apple does not allow expansion cards, on either the iPad of iPhone.
I would be happiest if there were a 7 inch version of the Note. There is a 7 inch Galaxy Tab, but alas no S-Pen.
I admit, though, that I am a programmer, and the Android OS is a little more intimidating to some than iOS. On that ground we recently bought my wife an iPhone 5 rather than an Android phone.
Admittedly the Logos iOS app is more mature than teh Android app today. But I expect that gap to disappear rapidly. I personally think Android will be to iOS what Windows was to the Mac OS.
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I considered the IPAD mini, however I've read bad reviews on the readability of the text and of course with Apple I'm sure by next March they will have a retina version of the IPAD mini and I will cheated once again by Apple.
I have an ipad 3, and bought an ipad mini to see what it was like. Although the resolution of the ipad mini is meant to be better than the ipad 2, it was still more fuzzy than I thought it would be. Consequently, I sent the ipad mini back and stuck with my ipad 3. Despite having good 20:20 vision, I found eye strain was more of a problem with the ipad mini - it's hard to tell whether this was due to more fuzzy text, or a smaller screen than I was used to. That said, the ipad mini is a wonderfully engineered device - it's lightweight and thin form was what attracted me to it. I'm disappointed it didn't work out for me as I thought the ipad mini would be neat in the pulpit, and a lot more discreet than the full size ipad.
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Android vs IOS vs Windows 8?
I am looking to buy my first tablet so that I can preach from it, and to use reading Logos books,e-books and sometimes taking notes at Bible College. It will be primarily for reading as I have a PC for use at home.
From what I've been reading, the gap between Android and IOS is getting smaller, but would I get much better Logos functionality if I selected a Windows 8 tablet? I have Logos on my Android phone, which is nice, but I want to be able to have saved layouts on the tablet. Does an Android tablet have the same functionality as an Android phone, or do we get more options?
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Android vs IOS vs Windows 8?
Not a fight really, Windows 8rt (current surface tablets) are not overly positively reviewed, reports are keyboard to device response time is very slow, and the office version is very poorly done. Logos offers nothing but basically biblica access at the moment. If you love the Surface and are prepared to wait a few months for a Logos up similar to the Android/iOS one by all means grab one, but for anyone not wanting an iPad I have to recommend the Android, i have a friend whose boy loves the galaxy II. I have heard good things about the Nexus tablets too. If you are willing to sacrifice usage time and have a large budget the true Windows 8 compatible surface tablet is out early in the new year which will let you run your desktop Logos 4/5, but your left with a 4-5 hour battery life from what I hear.
-Dan
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I just bought a Samsung 10.1 Tab2 (16GB, Android 4.0, WiFi) primarily for reading. The Costco price was reasonable at $329 (incl sleeve/cover). I added a 32 GB microSD for added storage. This is my first foray into the world of tablets and the Android OS. Here is some of what I have learned so far ...
With respect to the Android OS, It is not difficult to learn at all. In fact, it is rather simple and nothing at all like learning to use a full blown OS. A few icons, some widgets, tap, tap and hold, slide, whoopo-dee-doo ... pretty simple and easy to remember. A couple of hours of experimenting and practising and you pretty well have got it.
Surveying the vast sea of available "apps" makes one wonder about the mental capabilities of users. It looks to me like the majority of apps are dippy little games aimed at a slow 7 year old. A few apps like ebooks, readers, media, internet browsing, etc. are suitable for adults and/or anyone with an IQ above 50. If I had to describe the intended use of a tablet based solely upon scanning the apps list, I would have say it is nothing more than an overpriced "BusyBox."
As I understand it, the Tab2 uses a dual core Texas Instruments OMAP processor running at 1 GHz which is a lot slower and less powerful than the 1.5 GHz, quad core processor in the Note2 tablets. While this may seem like a drawback (who wouldn't want more power/speed?), it actually isn't if you are using this tablet primarily for reading. As long as you are not watching streaming content from, say, Netflix, or other processor intensive apps, the batteries in the Tab2 last on the order of 8 hours (YMMV). Under casual, daily use I get roughly 3 days without having to recharge. As I understand it, the Note2s get far less.
If I had to characterize the Tab v. the Note, I would have to say that the Tab is idealy suited for multimedia and reading with occassional note taking, whereas the Note is suited for those who take handwritten notes often and want/need the efficiency of the S Pen.
The Logos Bible app works well for reading although it appears to be a work in progress. I have already spent several hours working my way through Naselli's work on 'Keswick' and found the tablet very suitable. The 10.1" size is very easy to hold and view - I like the portrait orientation while reading. The 10.1" size obviously has a much larger viewable area than the smaller 7" models (or, a smartphone) - never was crazy about trying to read a book or browse the internet through a keyhole! The black letters on the bright white background make reading very easy for 60 year old eyes ... even in a darkened room. I like the way the app doesn't allow the tablet to go to sleep on me while reading, too (however, it doesn't keep me from going to sleep [;)]). Certainly, much more conducive to simple, extended reading than sitting in front of a PC monitor!
Bottom line: I am not regretting this purchase ... for the price, it is a great reading tool!
Instead of Artificial Intelligence, I prefer to continue to rely on Divine Intelligence instructing my Natural Dullness (Ps 32:8, John 16:13a)
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Thanks Dan & JRS,
Has anyone found any other discussion on the better tablets for Logos? I thought it would be quite a hot topic, but haven't found much at all.[8-)]
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Thanks Dan & JRS,
Has anyone found any other discussion on the better tablets for Logos? I thought it would be quite a hot topic, but haven't found much at all.
It has been discussed elsewhere; in some cases it probably comes down to where you feel comfortable, iPads are well designed and have great battery life (iPad family aces battery tests while Android tabletslag), their down side is less choice of models and the price is more expensive than the android option. It is more secure (over 1/3 of android apps have POTENTIAL security risks, but most are not malicious) but it is less customizable as a user interface. iOS has many more apps and historically developers have had to work much harder to make a widely compatible application. Androids are in general more expandable (most have SD card slots). In the end you must decide what is the best for you, going to a local store and seeing iPads and androids may give you a better idea what feels better in your hands and looks best to your eyes. I personally like iPAD because of the screen clarity and over all feel (many of the android tablets with plastic housing seem less study to me. I have dropped my iPad many times and have not had any issues so far, that being said no tablet should be used as a frisbe. If Kevin Purcell is watching this thread I am sure he will have much more helpful information since he reviews technology regularly.
-Dan
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JRS
what editing/writing handwriting can u do in and through Logos4? If I edit a document with handwritten notes and import it in Logos, is this editing imported as well? ( through note features of logos)?
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