I have a quetion

Tes
Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Can some one tell me what the difference between the "root:φοβος@NASM" and "root:φοβος" is? As I have shown it below on the screenshot I have tried to search by root both of them and I have got different results.

Blessings in Christ.

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  • Alexander
    Alexander Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Tes:

    root:φοβος@NASM will find only the places where the root φοβος is being used in the text as accusative, singular, and masculine. root:φοβος will find when the text has any inflection of φοβος present. That could mean (potentially) as nomative, accusative, genitive, dative, singular, plural, and/or masculine/neuter/feminine.

    So, basically, you get the root when it's the exact same form as in the ESV in that verse vs. anywhere in the ESV in any form.

     

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,396

    This is exactly the same. Any time you enter @ followed by an entry you are saying "I don't want to see them all. I only want those that are ..." . Look at the wiki for a detailed explanation.






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  • Alexander
    Alexander Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

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    Tes:

     

    Look at my screen shot, I think it will make it more clear. When you search with the @NASM you only get the instances in the ESV where the noun comes in the accusative case, in the masculine gender, and the single number. When you search without the NASM you get places where the noun appears as multiple cases including the vocative, nominative, accusative, genitive, and dative, and when it is both singular and plural. Adding @NASM just makes your search more narrow.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Alexander said:

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    Tes:

     

    Look at my screen shot, I think it will make it more clear. When you search with the @NASM you only get the instances in the ESV where the noun comes in the accusative case, in the masculine gender, and the single number. When you search without the NASM you get places where the noun appears as multiple cases including the vocative, nominative, accusative, genitive, and dative, and when it is both singular and plural. Adding @NASM just makes your search more narrow.

    HI Alexander, I have tried to magnify the screenshot ,but I am not able to see it.Besides it would be very nice , if you could send me by quoting parallel examples as well.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Alexander
    Alexander Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Hey Tes:

     

    Here's an analogy that might be helpful. Let's say you have a book on baseball and it was in Logos. You see the sentence "Joshua hit the ball." You right clicked and looked for all the places for Joshua - the search might look like: root:Joshua.

    Let's say theres three sentences with in the whole book about Joshua:

    1. Joshua hit the ball.

    2. The ball his Joshua.

    3. In the middle of the game, Joshua fouled out.

    Searching for root:Joshua would find all three example.

    But lets say you searched for root:Joshua@NN (so noun and nominative which represents the subject of the sentence). The results would pull up sentence #1 and #3 but not #2. Joshua is not the subject of sentence #2 - the ball is the subject of the sentence.

    When you searched for root:φοβος it was like the first search for Joshua. Your results had every place in the ESV that the word φοβος appeared no matter how it was being used in the sentence. When you searched for root:φοβος@NASM, however, you were only find places where the word was used as a noun, in the accusative, in the singular number, and the masculine gender. For simplicity sake, root:φοβος@NASM was going to return results when φοβος was the direct object of the sentence. Any other time φοβος was used was not going to show up. So root:φοβος@NASM's results were also in root:φοβος but not all of the results from root:φοβος were in root:φοβος@NASM.

    Does that make sense?

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Well done Alexander, thank you very much. I appreciate and have enjoyed the explanation.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Alexander
    Alexander Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    You are most welcome brother :) God bless you and your ministry.