Will we finally get a windows phone app? I only have a windows 8 smartphone and I feel deprived
Man I hear you...I want to have LOGOS ported to Windows Phone 8 too (Lumia 920)...Come on team logos! Please tell us WP8 users that you are at least considering the port![H]
Ditto. Windows Phones are up 4000% in sales from last year. I'd love Logos if they'd let my Lumia 920 run...
Yup yup yup! Another Lumia 920 user here that would be really happy to see a Logos app for our devices.
I believe there is a Logos App for Windows 8.
In Him,
Jim
Hi, Jim...
Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 are separate (but related) platforms. The appearance of a Windows 8 app is encouraging, and suggests that Windows Phone users might see an app in the future.
Two caveats:
Yes please make a very good (willing to wait) WP app.
We have an early version of a Windows 8 RT app in the app store now (BIble!), but we haven't had the resources to work on a Windows Phone 8 version yet.
We're also continuing to observe market share, and whether or not Windows Phone 8 gets a significant share of the market will probably influence our decision to invest, or not invest, more resources in this platform. Either way, a decision (and app) are probably many months away.
Sorry I don't have a better answer right now!
-- Bob
I can completely understand.
I have the Win8 Phone and the Surface RT. I love my phone, but I would much rather have Logos on my Surface! I know you guys are doing a lot and that it takes money to get these Apps going, so I just want to thank you and I look forward to the apps you do produce for Logos in the future!
Loyal customer and Windows Fan!
Thank you for answering. I know windows 8 is a new platform and it may take time for an app to surface (if it has enough traction). I am hoping that there is enough growth in the Window 8 phone sector.
Thanks Bob. We are looking forward to more Logos support on the Windows platform! Appreciate your work on that.
Bob
I would like to add my, "me too please," to the requests for a Windows Phone app.
Ken
Hi!
My Lumia 820 is also waiting for Logos. I understand that the US markets are your primary markets and the WP8 is not so popular there as in Europe, but I hope there will be WP8 version for Logos sooner or later. Developing the Win8 metro version should help in developing the WP8 version too.
A month ago I changed my iPhone 4 for Lumia 820 with Windows Phone 8 system and am looking forward to seeing Logos on that. It is great OS and I am sure market will accept it very well. Logos should consider it very seriously.
Is Logos any closer to releasing an app for Windows Phone 8?
Folks, I've been a decade-long customer of both Logos (on the PC) and Laridian (on the mobile). I've been following Logos' progressing in developing for the WP platform, and have now lost my support. This week, Laridian released their WP8 app, and it's all I need.
If the only thing you need is WP8 Bible application, fine.
I am a little bit more demanding [:)] I need one fully synchronized Bible ecosystem and my WP8 Nokia Lumia 820 should work well as part of that. I can't imagine to go back to the "stone-age" of using separate Bible programs on each platform.
I haven't found any other system than Logos being that fully synced ecosystem. I use PC laptop, iPad, iPhone and now I started to use Nokia Lumia 820 where I need to have just the same we have on iPhone or Android. I hope it makes sense.
While not as extensive as the Logos library, Laridian has a sizeable collection - not just Bibles in their ecosystem. Furthermore, they license across platforms (Windows, iOS, Andriod, and now WP). I was pleasantly surprised to see my key PalmOS licenses, from more than a decade ago, were still valid.
I sense that Logos is either counting on WP to fade away (forcibly converting users to iOS or Andriod), or those heavily invested in Logo to remain loyal.
Observing market momentum, I don't think WP will fade away. The longer Logos takes to release a WP product, the more it will cost them to regain market.
Right now, I don't believe there is a WP competitor in Laridian's class. I've tried most of the WP Bible apps, none begin to compare in interface elegence, feature-set, or library-collection.
I fully agree with you and also believe WP will gain much of the market soon. WP8 is just great platform.
I used to have Laridian many years ago on my iPhone so it looks it grew a lot since then. Sorry for my wrong assumptions in the precious post. I understand your logic now. I hope however Logos will come with WP8 Logos application soon. I would really not like to leave Windows Phone platform for anything else. I have been using iPhone for years and still use iPad.
I'd like to ditto all this, too! It would be a great help to have a well done, functional app on my Lumia 810.
Yet another vote for a Windows Phone 8 app. The market for Windows Phone is only going to grow. I hope you get to it sooner rather than later!
I can feel your pain but:
Microsoft announced earlier this week their plans to officially stop supporting both Windows Phone 7.8 and Windows Phone 8 in the second half of 2014. Due to some rather unfortunate release dates and the fixed eighteen month product life cycle, it seems that the more advanced WP8 will actually cease to be officially supported before 7.8. Now, when I say that Microsoft “announced” their plans to end support for the two operating systems, that’s not entirely accurate. What they actually did was to quietly slip the information into their support page.
The resulting news created a certain amount of confusion and in some cases anger among users of the platform, especially those who may have recently purchased a device on a two year contract, only to find out that their device will no longer be supported after three quarters of the new contract’s duration. Even so, this is an improvement on their announcement of the lack of upgrade path from Windows Phone 7 to 8.
Chances are that more recently purchased devices will have already been upgraded to a newer version of Microsoft’s mobile offering by the time the support officially ends, and the initial concerns voiced by some are unfounded. It’s already known that there is no clear upgrade path from Windows Phone 7 to 8, with the rather awkwardly named 7.8 being something of a stopgap to curb the resentment of early adopters who would need to purchase a new device to see the full benefits of WP8, but little is known about the plans to advance on the latest version of the OS. It would be highly surprising though to find out that current devices will be receiving few or no updates.
So with the problems Microsoft is having with the phone OS themselves don't expect anything soon as far as a Logos app because at this point it's more than just "market share".
If you are really needing Logos on your phone go to Google pick up a Nexus 4 for $299 Google Nexus 4, install Logos from the Play Store and there you go.
If you are really tied to Windows by the time the Nexus needs to be replaced Microsoft will have hopefully figured out the whole smart phone OS issue and Logos could possibly have an app out for Microsoft phones by then.
Microsoft announced earlier this week their plans to officially stop supporting both Windows Phone 7.8 and Windows Phone 8 in the second half of 2014.
I don't know what you wanted to say by your post, but the information about the date of the end of support for the WP 7.8 and 8 just means we will have a new Windows Phone 9 soon. That's all.
Having Logos for the W8 platform would help me make the decision to switch. But I'm also thinking I use Logos more on my laptop and my tablet than my phone so it might not make that big of a difference to me.
Yes indeedy!
Lumia 820 - hungry!
Also on Lumia 920.
Microsoft announced earlier this week their plans to officially stop supporting both Windows Phone 7.8 and Windows Phone 8 in the second half of 2014. I don't know what you wanted to say by your post, but the information about the date of the end of support for the WP 7.8 and 8 just means we will have a new Windows Phone 9 soon. That's all.
The point seems to me to be (and I realize i am comping at this a couple months late), MS has no continuity on the mobile platform. 6(I know the previous was never called 6 but i don;t remember it's proper name even though I had one of those phones) - 7 - 8. These are not iOS update like Windows OS or iOS updates. Many items running on the first generation of iPhones functions great still on the current one. No Software that was on pre 7 phones worked on 7 phones. When 8 came out again there was a software barrier again (although it was easier to migrate code to make 7 apps into 8 apps). With this history and an announcement that support will ending leaves one to believe in Windows Phone 9 is under development it;s not going to share much with 7/8…. It is a pretty startling announcement in my mind about the equivalent of them saying we won't be supporting Windows 7/8 after next year… When it still hasn't fully dropped XP support all these years after it's discontinuation. That announcement is to me a slap in the face to everyone they are hoping to see phones to, and they have just in the last couple weeks started up a new TV AD, reminds me of back when their new flagship 7 phone was released and 2 weeks later it was announced it would't be upgradable to 8. Windows Phones have failed to gain a significant market share in no small part to their lack of continued support. If every year apple released an iOS all previous iPhones were not upgradable Apple would rightly have few iPhone users. Apple sheds what it sees as archaic code and hardware, but not in such away as to make transitions hard or force the majority of users to get a new computer/phone to continue using the latest software. In general Apple attempts to offer hardware/software support to computers five years old, i do believe first generation iPADs are not upgradable past iOS 5, but I know my old iPhone 3GS supports the latest IOS and it's 4 years old.
-Dan
Microsoft announced earlier this week their plans to officially stop supporting both Windows Phone 7.8 and Windows Phone 8 in the second half of 2014. I don't know what you wanted to say by your post, but the information about the date of the end of support for the WP 7.8 and 8 just means we will have a new Windows Phone 9 soon. That's all. The point seems to me to be (and I realize i am comping at this a couple months late), MS has no continuity on the mobile platform. 6(I know the previous was never called 6 but i don;t remember it's proper name even though I had one of those phones) - 7 - 8. These are not iOS update like Windows OS or iOS updates. Many items running on the first generation of iPhones functions great still on the current one. No Software that was on pre 7 phones worked on 7 phones. When 8 came out again there was a software barrier again (although it was easier to migrate code to make 7 apps into 8 apps). With this history and an announcement that support will ending leaves one to believe in Windows Phone 9 is under development it;s not going to share much with 7/8…. It is a pretty startling announcement in my mind about the equivalent of them saying we won't be supporting Windows 7/8 after next year… When it still hasn't fully dropped XP support all these years after it's discontinuation. That announcement is to me a slap in the face to everyone they are hoping to see phones to, and they have just in the last couple weeks started up a new TV AD, reminds me of back when their new flagship 7 phone was released and 2 weeks later it was announced it would't be upgradable to 8. Windows Phones have failed to gain a significant market share in no small part to their lack of continued support. If every year apple released an iOS all previous iPhones were not upgradable Apple would rightly have few iPhone users. Apple sheds what it sees as archaic code and hardware, but not in such away as to make transitions hard or force the majority of users to get a new computer/phone to continue using the latest software. In general Apple attempts to offer hardware/software support to computers five years old, i do believe first generation iPADs are not upgradable past iOS 5, but I know my old iPhone 3GS supports the latest IOS and it's 4 years old. -Dan
Dan, if I understand the situation properly, we have pre-WP8 times in Microsoft Mobile platform and post-WP8 times. There is no continuity between WP 7 and WP8. I don't think the situation with the new WP9 can be similar. The reason behind the WP8 was to build a new platform for the next generations of Microsoft mobile OS. The difference is that Apple entered the market quite late, while Microsoft have had already all kind of PDAs and WM phones etc (I used them for years). There had to be a moment of drawing line and starting a new platform. That's what I believe happened with the WP8 discontinuity. (And I had iPhone 3 and 4 and I have experienced a similar discontinuity of iOS).
Are Logos any closer to a WP8 app? I'm aware of other Bible apps for WP8 but I have too much invested in Logos to start buying the same resources from another source. So I'm still hoping Logos will look after its long-term users.
DITTO! I have a Lumia 920. Love it and it would be complete if I could get Logos.
As Soon as Laridian get Spanish Bible Version, I will move to It.
As it had been mentioned already, before we have a dedicated application for WP8, we can use mobile version of Biblia.com. It works great and gives us access to our Bibles and the rest of our electronic Library. IMHO it looks a better interim solution to me then buying another library, just for my Lumia.
What I'm about to suggest isn't a great solution but it is better than just launching Biblia.com in your phones browser.
Check out the app "Web Apps". I made my own Biblia.com "app" that runs without the address bar and it also let me put a logo on it for a tile on my home screen.
I have also looked into the Laridian windows phone apps and I'm already interested. I hope Logos gets the signal that they should be looking into what their current and paid customer are asking for instead of market shares.
I like to carry all my Logos or at least a select books like I see in Laridian on my Windows 8 smartphone as an accessible quick reference.
What I'm about to suggest isn't a great solution but it is better than just launching Biblia.com in your phones browser. Check out the app "Web Apps". I made my own Biblia.com "app" that runs without the address bar and it also let me put a logo on it for a tile on my home screen.
Thank you Mark. I am anxious to see your application in the Store. I will let you know after I install it.
P.S. I think I misunderstood you. I realize now you are not speaking about the phone Store. OK. It would be great if you can give us more info about the application you use.
Bohuslav,
What Mark is talking about is the Windows 8 Phone app called "Webapps". You can download it from the Windows Phone 8 app store.
From the Microsoft Windows Store description of the app:
"WebApps is the best way to discover and pin mobile web sites on your Windows Phone........"
I have had this app on my phone for a while, but did not realize that I could use it to create/pin a mobile website of my own choice to my Windows Phone device without using the browser. I tried it with Biblia.com as Mark mentioned and I like it. It is obviously not as good as having a complete Windows Phone 8 app as it is just the Biblia.com mobile website, but I do like it better than opening up the web browser to access the site. I created my own custom tile and pinned it to my start screen with my other Bible apps and resources I use.
I have been using Windows Phone devices since the First day Windows Phone 7 was released in the US, and me and my wife both use Windows Phone 8 Nokia 920 smartphones now. It is the best mobile phone I have ever used, and I have been using them a long time. Really happy with it. I am hoping that as Windows Phone sales keep picking up that Logos will start to notice and begin working on a Phone app for the device. Sales have been encouraging as the latest IDC report shows that year over year Windows Phone 8 out paced both Android and Iphone in sales growth!
https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24257413
I like my Windows 8 phone and will just try to keep patient until the app arrives. Might looking at moving to the new Nokia 1020 phone next.
Thank you Eric for your thorough answer. I really appreciate it. And welcome to the forums [:)]
I share your excitement about the WP8 platform. After having a couple of iPhones, I switched to Nokia Lumia 820 and I love it. I hope that the new move of Microsoft with buying the Nokia Mobile division (announced a couple of days ago) will accelerate the platform even more.
...and hopefully we will see Logos application on the WP8 platform soon.
I fully agree. I have started using Laridian again because they are one company investing in the windows phone. I have found it easy to use with lots of good resources. I have been following the windows phone forum for years constantly living in hope, but I'm now really happy with Laridian.
It might work for you. For me the only real option is Logos. So I will be patient. Till then I use Biblia.com on my Lumia 820.
Yes, me too just got the Lumia 820, but no Logos!!... many months later, are we going to see this happening? maybe someone has actually started something?
would be greatly appreciated!
The anti Microsoft/Windows people continue to spew their evil talk of hated but I an quite happy and satisfied with my Windows Phone and operating systems as others in this thread have also indicated. I will keep my Windows Phone and do without Logos as I have found other alternatives that provide comparable apps for the Windows Phone as Logos gets left in the dust. Two that are working perfectly for me are Laridian PocketBible and the YouVersion app from LifeChurch. Others who feel slighted and betrayed by Logos should check these two apps out immediately. Good luck and God Bless! [;)]
I would like to see the Windows app include the same features as the iPad app. I changed to Windows tablet so I can be more compatible with my work environment. would me nice to have my documents available in the Windows app.
Others who feel slighted and betrayed by Logos
I don't think there is any basis for feeling slighted and betrayed by Logos, I just feel quite impatient waiting... I am sure eventually WP platform will win Logos attention. It is too good to stay out forever.
Hello,
Windows phone8 is here to stay. Any plans yet? I check for your app every time. waiting patiently for a release date....
Hello, Windows phone8 is here to stay. Any plans yet? I check for your app every time. waiting patiently for a release date....
Please see Bob's post on Windows Phone apps here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/80058/560363.aspx#560363
