New on prepub: Ignatius Catholic Study Bible and more
Ignatius Catholic Study Bible: New Testament, Genesis, Exodus, and the RSV2CE
Benedictine Studies Collection (11 vols.)
Vatican Council II: The Conciliar and Post Conciliar Documents (2 vols.)
And I hope no one has missed
- Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graeca (167 vols.)
- Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Latina (221 vols.)
- Patrologia Syriaca (vols. 1–2) and Orientalis (vols. 1–14, 16)
- 1917 Code of Canon Law Collection (10 vols.)
on CP. Or the ever-lingering Catholic Encyclopedia (17 vols.)
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Thanks for the heads-up!
Have joy in the Lord!
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I wish they would do: Jerusalem Bible or 1975 Bible In Order, <- post there. I don't think I'm going to buy the RSV-2CE, I neither like nor recommend study-Bibles plus I think there are better Bibles...:
... What Bibles I use:fgh said:... I have all Bibles I want to have. I have many commentaries too, four of the commentaries that I've rated ***** and that are available in Logos, are:
- A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Second Epistle to the Corinthians, Volume 1 chapters 1-7, by Thrall
- 2 Corinthians 8 and 9: A Commentary on Two Administrative Letters of the Apostle Paul, by Betz
- Matthew 8–20: A Commentary on Matthew 8–20, by Luz
- Believers Church Bible Commentary: Proverbs
There is a discussion on Christianforums where You can discuss commentaries, feel free to bump it: http://www.christianforums.com/t7541241
Another good commentary, that I use just for 1 Thess probably ***** is: Believers Church Bible Commentary: 1 and 2 Thessalonians. See also my profile for links to further posts about commentaries!
It varies from one part of the Bible to another how much commentaries I buy. On some parts I don't even have any commentaries, and on some parts I'm still waiting for good enough commentaries to be released: for example Eph.Paideia is also available in Logos, but I have Ro as printed matter, bought it a year ago, have soon read it through twice.
In UK English, there's a 3rd Edition of the OT with a 6th Edition NT out now, of the Good News Translation, see: http://www.christianforums.com/t7707894/ ... it's a pretty good version. As far as I know the 3rd Edition doesn't have the Deuterocanonicals though. Go to: 1992 GNT-CE 2nd ed. preferably with Anglicized text and 1971 GNB 3rd... to post supporting it!
For the Deuterocanonicals I recommend the 1989 Revised English Bible, abbreviated REB. You can find it at Amazon if You search for REB Apocrypha. When
When You buy books at Amazon, enter through the link in the right pane on this page: http://csntm.org/ ... then a portion of Your purchase benefits The Center for the Study of the New Testament Manuscripts without charge for You! REB is also good for the Pauline epistles. Search Classic Bible Series The New Testament Epistles Early Christian Wisdom on Amazon to find a cheap paperback copy that has the Pauline Epistles and Acts from REB, the Johannine Epistles from NJB and the rest of the Epistles of the NT from the NRSV.
REB is also available in Logos: http://www.logos.com/product/24537/the-revised-english-bible-with-the-apocrypha
You can discuss the Old Testaments of these versions in a thread: http://www.christianforums.com/t7653202/ Feel free to bump it!
Good versions for Ro are the 2004 Good News Translation 3rd Edition UK English Edition and Paideia: search Romans paideia.
For Mt 1:18-16:1, the Catholic Public Domain Version is pretty good. It can be found both on the internet for free, and as printed matter. If You want only a portion of the Bible in CPDV, a good idea is to buy only the volume(s) You want from the 6-volume Bible. (Of course it also comes as a 1-volume printed Bible.)
I use the Douay-Rheims Challoner and the Vulgate for Mt 25:1, and the Douay-Rheims Challoner for Is 5:6 and Song of Solomon.
If You want to correct older NT versions so that they align with the 1992 Nestle-Aland 27th Edition Greek text, You can buy the 2009 Comprehensive New Testament - it's entirely in English.
The NRSV is somewhat good. I compare with it every now and then, but I've never used is at my main Bible and am not going to.
I use many different Bibles. Some of them I have only as printed matter, some only in Logos. And for example the GNT-CE and NABRE both as printed matter and in Logos. I use the 1986 RNAB NT very little, but I use the 2010 NABRE OT to some degree, although rarely for the most important parts of the OT.
Other versions that I compare with, are for example the 1995 NASU, the 2005 NET 1st Edition, the latter incorporates the findings from cave 4 at Qumran which are for example significant for one of the Historical Books in the OT. OT versions is a tricky question. For the books where the Qumran cave 4 manuscripts matter, it's hard to find any version that is good and up-to-date. The 1995 NASU isn't recent enough, maybe I will use the forthcoming NET 2nd Edition? Luckily those are mostly less important parts of the OT, so this is not such a critical issue as many would think. I've been using the NABRE for many of those parts of the OT. For devotional reading I often use the 1941-1961 Confraternity Version.
For a quick read of the Gospels or Minor Prophets, I often use the 2004 Good News Translation 3rd Edition UK English Edition (it's without pictures). For quick reading of some other OT books I often use my 1992 Good News Translation Catholic Edition 2nd Edition with colour print drawings by Annie Valoton.
For book introductions, I mostly use the end-of-2011 Oxford Encyclopedia of the Books of the Bible. A thread about it: http://www.christianforums.com/t7671654/
I don't use the ESV at all, and not such versions as NIV, God's Word, KJV.I'm using NABRE (I never used the NT a lot) and NET less and less. I use the NJB extremely little. I don't have Knox.
I use the NLT for just one verse in the entire Bible, 1 Jn 2:5 (because of the recommendation in: http://www.christianforums.com/t7611271-2/#post60073334), and I'm NOT going to use it for more verses ever, period!
I have the 1970 NAB too (OT in Logos, and NT as a 2-volume folio), and I use it for Is 7:14.
The Jerusalem Bible is very good, I use it often.
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If this small sub group of Verbum users want the Catholic Encyclopedia we better raise our bids from $30 to $100. [I did]
Once it is available in Verbum format more will join and next time we will only need to bid $50 for something that the Logos 5 people get for $30. [many more people]
Strength is in numbers but we have to get the resources first [chicken or egg problem - no people no resources - no resources no people]
[[I put in bids for all the ones under $100 and am skipping the others]
[Note to Unix - i like study bibles - they are sometimes a better intro then a teaching manual - in the teaching manual you would start at page one and go to the end - if your not a member of the group you most likely never start - but with the study bible your looking at one verse and you see how different groups 'read' it - that comment on one verse just might lead someone to the teaching manual - reading a study bible, the 1609/1585 DR, lead me to Capstone] [[but yes, if you are not sure where you are at don't read some other groups study bible]]
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Unix living in celibacy said:
I don't think I'm going to buy the RSV-2CE, I neither like nor recommend study-Bibles plus I think there are better Bibles...
Study Bibles are very useful for the person who doesn't own Bible dictionaries, atlases or commentaries. And different study Bibles meet different needs. I'm sure that for many of use, the importance of the RSV-2CE is not the Bible itself but a matter of some countries using it as the base for their lectionary. I'll grant you I have seen some very bad study Bibles. But Logos tries to reach a variety of needs.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The Minor Writings of Pope Benedict XVI in English & Latin (18 vols.) and
The Ignatius Bible: Revised Standard Version, Second Catholic Edition were just added as well. (Note that the latter is already included in the first item on this thread.)
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The Catholic prepubs keep coming:
- Science and Evidence for Design in the Universe
- Transformation in Christ (von Hildebrand)
- The Meaning of Tradition (Congar)
- You Can Understand the Bible (Kreeft)
- The Teachings of the Church Fathers
- The Hidden Manna: A Theology of the Eucharist
- History of the Catholic Church: From the Apostolic Age to the Third Millennium
If anyone has any particular recommendations, please post them.
(It also seems they're giving us a free prepub of the Codex Bezae Cantabrigiensis)
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Congar is less well known than he should be. Anything Congar is always worth your time (as is Hugo Rahner who is overshadowed by his brother).
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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fgh said:
The Teachings of the Church Fathers
Checked this out on Amazon - I'd really need to have it in hand to compare it to the standard Jurgens. But it looks very similar - and I can't imagine getting by without the 3 volume Faith of the Early Fathers by William A. Jurgens. It would be nice to see A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs by David W. Bercot available as well - it is much requested by our Anabaptist friend and would be interesting to view for comparative analysis.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Anything Congar is always worth your time
Already ordered.[:)] Like I wrote in the Benedictine thread some days ago:
fgh said:What's also nice is that this is the second Liturgical Press title in a couple of weeks. That ought to mean that Sacra Pagina and Berit Olam are on the way. And the Aramaic Bible. And Jurgens, and Congar, and the Little Rock Catholic Study Bible, and a number of other things that have been asked for, often repeatedly.
Though it seems Ignatius beat Liturgical Press to the first Congar.[:)]
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Ahh, how sweet the sound [:)] Let the showdown begin! I'm going to have to work double shifts now, as there's very little if anything out of these two publishers that I'm not going to be interested in.fgh said:Ignatius beat Liturgical Press
And to think that at one time I doubted whether they are going to get on board with Logos... pffft.
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- Deep Conversion/Deep Prayer
- The Catholic Church and the Bible
- There's also several new collections of papal documents in Spanish
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Youcat had been on my "wish list" since at least the last year - thanks for the heads up [thanks for all the others listed.
[[Private note to Sleiman: Your going to need more then two jobs - MJ and fgh are VERY good at spotting good new references]]
[[Also try; http://www.logos.com/products/search?Christian+Group=Catholic&start=0&sort=newest&pageSize=15]]
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David I meant I need the extra work to be able to afford buying more books at the rate they being published
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Christmas has certainly come late this year! I am ecstatic and hope this is the sign of things to come. What is good for me is all these new pre pubs are in affordable chunks (as long as not all come in the same month!)
Interested in the development of Practicum DVD and New Jerome would be nice but wow are we heading in the right direction. Since Verbum, after some years of doubt, I feel happy and justified in my Logos investment.
John
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- The Homilies and Angeli of Pope John Paul II (8 vols.)
- The Audiences and Apostolic Writings of Pope John Paul II (11 vols.)
- The Speeches, Messages, and Apostolic Journeys of Pope John Paul II (13 vols.)
- The Homilies, Audiences, and Messages of Pope John Paul II (Spanish Edition) (8 vols.)
This is getting far too expensive! I'll have to opt out and hope they're added to the next version of Capstone.
Also on CP:
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Agree. I declined the speeches at $250. But it's a huge work and may need many subscribers to get it produced. In the meantime I'm also hoping that it'll be included in the next round of package updates.fgh said:This is getting far too expensive! I'll have to opt out and hope they're added to the next version of Capstone.
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Sleiman said:
I had said that we all need two jobs to pay for our Logos needs. I was wrong - we need four. [:)]
How long has Andrew Jones been with Logos? Two years? We are still on the leading edge. We need to bid higher to get a resource as there are fewer interested. What will it look like in two years from now? Even if we cannot buy too many of the current offerings at least they are being offered. So what sets do we need to get into production to get more customers for Verbum?
For example the Catholic Encyclopedia is the fourth bestselling item on CP but are we ever going to get it at $30 with the current customer base?
Of all the ones offered which are MUST haves? Not must have in our personal libraries but MUST have in Logos or else Verbum is not going anywhere because it will not attract the needed customer count because of lack of the MUST have resources. “Youcat” is needed - $16.95 is about the right price but will we get the numbers needed to get it into production?
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I'm new to Logos/Verbum (less than a year), and am having a good time exploring some of the prepub offerings. I've added a number of Catholic prepub orders, and it feels good to nudge some of these resources *that* much closer to becoming real products.
How can you tell, on the community pricing items, how close they are to getting created? The prepub items seem to update the little progress bars in response to an order.
[edit]: I just watched some of the tutorial vids and read a few Logos blog posts about community pricing. I think I'm clear on the progress indicators now.
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Update:
New Catholic prepubs:
- The Encyclicals, Speeches, and Apostolic Writings of Pope Paul VI (11 vols.)
- Vatican II Documents (Spanish Edition)
- Select Works of Joseph Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI (21 vols.)
- The 1917 Code of Canon Law in English & Latin (2 vols.)
- Select Works of Hans Urs von Balthasar (5 vols.)
- Steve Ray Collection (2 vols.) (includes a commentary on John, recommended by NB Mick, among others)
- Fire of Mercy, Heart of the Word (3 vols.) (commentary on Matthew)
- Living the Catechism of the Catholic Church (4 vols.)
Note to those of you subscribing to the Prepub e-mails: most Catholic prepubs are no longer announced through the 'regular' prepub feed, but only through the new one for Catholic prepubs. If you want e-mails about Catholic prepubs you need to go to the Notifications tab on your account page and check Catholic Pre-Publication.
The RSS feed for prepubs still seems 'complete', but I guess they may change that as well in the future, so keep your eyes open.
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The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible (ICSB) is scheduled to ship today! This orthodox Catholic commentary has mini word studies, maps, topical essays, and things like tables showing the miracles of Jesus, including where they may occur in each of the Gospels. The ICSB notes have numerous citations of early Church Fathers, the Catechism, Vatican II docs, etc. and I am excited to see all this links come to life in Logos.
The ICSB bundle which Logos is offering includes:
-ICSB NT (complete NT study Bible)
-ICSB Genesis
-ICSB Exodus, and
-RSV, 2nd Catholic Ed. (new to Logos)
The pre-order price is something like 22% cheaper than the eventual shipping price ($34.95 vs. $44.95), so if you're interested in any/all of these resources, you'll need to get hopping.
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