Optimal Settings for Running Parallels on Mac for L4
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Lynn Paige said:
I wasn't using anything from Logos, I downloaded the software two days ago and left the computer on all night. The next morning I saw the Logos homepage and didn't see the Logos icon at all, with this I assumed that everything was done including indexing, last night I shutdown the computer and this morning I say the Logos icon that stated that it was still indexing and it would take 2 hours, then 30 min. later it said 44 min. was left, now the icon is no longer there.This is were I am with this whole process, and with me being a new user I don't know what to look for and what to expect at this point or later after it's all done.
What library did you purchase, or what books? That might help us know what to expect time wise.
Something that helped me know what was going on behind the scenes was to open the Logos4.log file in console. It is dynamic, so you can watch the process and see where you are. It actually indicates what file is being indexed and any errors, how long it takes, etc...
The file is located in your home folder/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Logging/.
You can post these log files for the Logos Techs to determine what might be happening.
I have been called a computer geek on more than one occasion, so I am comfortable with all of this. If you are not, just post the log files for others to look at here in the forum. The guys here are great when it comes to helping someone get going. Although I read most of what is posted, I am usually too busy to take an active role. But I have a little time now and am glad to put in my two cents.
I have had the Mac app loaded since the beginning and have skipped many of the updates. At 13a I deleted the entire installation and started over. This corrected some problems I was having and now it is working fine. Of course compared to the PC version we still have a long ways to go. But once I let it index until complete, I haven't had any troubles. At this moment it is updating all of my Journals due to some files released last week. So I will be going through some more indexing myself. It can be a long process and I have found that if you are going to close the computer(if it is a notebook) , be sure to right click the icon and pause the indexing. Otherwise it seems to have to start over.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
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I purchased the Sliver package and I will try to look for this file and also try to post it. Do you think that I should also delete the installation and start over? Thank you so much for helping me!
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Also I went in to my Application files and clicked on Logos 4 and the homepage came up, what does this mean? Thanks
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Lynn Paige said:
I purchased the Sliver package and I will try to look for this file and also try to post it. Do you think that I should also delete the installation and start over? Thank you so much for helping me!
Since you have the Silver, I would expect it to take overnight and then some to get indexed. I wouldn't start over at this point. At least not until someone with Logos can look at the log files.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Lynn Paige said:
Also I went in to my Application files and clicked on Logos 4 and the homepage came up, what does this mean? Thanks
That is what I would expect on first installation.
Click the 'book' icon next to the home icon on the top left and see if any books are showing up in the library.
Also, is there an icon showing up in the menu extras? If so, hover it and see if there is a notification of what is happening.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
There are books in the library and I don't see any other icons besides the home,book, and glass. I also went in and found the Logos 4 log but I'm not sure how to post it, tried cut and past, didn't work.
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Everything looks good. I think you are okay. Have fun!
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Lynn Paige said:
There are books in the library and I don't see any other icons besides the home,book, and glass. I also went in and found the Logos 4 log but I'm not sure how to post it, tried cut and past, didn't work.
If there are books in your library and you can open them, then you may be good to go. The menu extras are the icons on the top right of you screen that are basically the equivalent of the Windows task tray. If you do not have a blue logos icon there, then you are likely installed and indexed completely. As far as the log file goes, you have to use the paperclip in the forum page and go find the log file from there. You also might have to 'zip' it up first. But it sounds like that may not be necessary.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Ken Powell said:
I'll let you know how the move from 64bit Win7 to 32bit works for speed.
Ken,
Did you ever try the 32bit vs the 64bit? I am curious if it sped things up at all.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Jack,
How much ram do you have installed? How many processor cores are you using? I have bumped up to 6gb in my machine and thinking about going to 8gb. I have found that searches are fastest for me enabling both cores. I have raised P5 and Logos4 to 2gb now and wonder if I should stop there or go further. I am not unhappy with P5 performance at all. I just don' t want to have to close Logos when I do a lot on the Mac side, which is why I went to 6gb. But if I can improve P5 and Logos4 in the process, why not? Thanks.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Jack Caviness said:Rick Smith said:
The parallel rep said that it has been tested, and if you give it more then 2 gb of ram, or more then 2 cores then it runs really poorly.
After my previous reply to your post, I thought I would try it again, and this time pay more attention to what happened (still no benchmark test though. I feel that they are not real world, and are only useful for bragging rights)
I have tried two Parallels 5 and XP configurations—2Gb and 4GB RAM. There is hardly any measurable difference in L4 searches. Most of the time it favors the 4GB configuration, but not by much. The overall speed of the application does not seem to be much different. I guess I would say, it does not matter very much.
I forgot to quote you in my post. I was replying to this post from a while back. It would have been difficult to figure that out...
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Dewayne Davis said:
I forgot to quote you in my post. I was replying to this post from a while back. It would have been difficult to figure that out...
Actually, if you click on the "Replied" link beside your name. it will take you the the referenced post.
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Dewayne Davis said:
How much ram do you have installed?
11GB
Dewayne Davis said:How many processor cores are you using?
2 Dual Core = 4
Dewayne Davis said:I have bumped up to 6gb in my machine and thinking about going to 8gb.
Unless you have a 64 bit OS, Windows will only recognize a little over 3GB of RAM.
I am now using 4GB RAM and 2 processors with XP. L4 has adequate speed, but it will not jerk your neck when the light changes. [8-|]
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Jack Caviness said:Dewayne Davis said:
I forgot to quote you in my post. I was replying to this post from a while back. It would have been difficult to figure that out...
Actually, if you click on the "Replied" link beside your name. it will take you the the referenced post.
Too cool!
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
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So I assume you didn't see a big degradation when using 4gb vs. 2gb?
I am running Windows 7 64, so seeing the 4gb won't be a problem.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Dewayne Davis said:
So I assume you didn't see a big degradation when using 4gb vs. 2gb?
Although I haven't conducted any timing tests, it seemed to be a little faster with 4 than with 2.
Dewayne Davis said:am running Windows 7 64, so seeing the 4gb won't be a problem.
How well does Windows 7 work in Parallels?
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Jack Caviness said:Dewayne Davis said:
So I assume you didn't see a big degradation when using 4gb vs. 2gb?
Although I haven't conducted any timing tests, it seemed to be a little faster with 4 than with 2.
Dewayne Davis said:am running Windows 7 64, so seeing the 4gb won't be a problem.
How well does Windows 7 work in Parallels?
I have done some extensive testing to see which is faster. I have loaded two brand new windows 7 installations, one 32 and one 64.
First I did multiple reboots and loads of Logos 4 on Windows 7 64 with varying memory settings. I have 8G now and tried 1.5, 2, 3, and 4 with combination of both one and two cores. Each one was rebooted and loaded multiple times.
Consistently, it takes about 45 seconds to get a blank screen in Logos and another 30 seconds to have a populated work space. The work space has a search for God in the entire Library. The time it takes for the search is my benchmark, since it is automatically made when the program loads. I am using the settings found here for the VM in both 32 and 64 bit installations.
My results have found that the optimum memory setting is 2G and 2C. This has shown to be consistently quicker than any other combination on my system.
Once I found the "sweet spot" on the 64 bit installation I tried this combination on the identical 32 bit installation and after multiple reboots found that the 64 bit was consistently faster.
These tests were done using the 7337 build of 4.0b.
Next I did a similar test of starting a workspace with a passage guide on Romans 8:1-25 with all sections opened. Again, the 64 bit version was consistently quicker. 64b->3 min average from the time I started L4 to the time the (stop) button on the PG disappeared. For the 32b-> 3.5 min average. I also tried it in the 64 bit kernel mode of SL and it made no difference either way. I also compared this to a previous installation of W764 with tweaking more in line with suggestions on this forum and found the newer installation with everything off as in the link above is much faster.
My findings are that Win7 64 with 2g and 2c and all extras turned off, is 15 to 30 percent faster than any other combination I tried. Hope this information helps.
Although I have extremely good results in using L4 in parallels, I still look forward to the native Mac version, which will blow this away... I hope.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
If you set all the internet options for P5 to open in Mac OSX, will that cause issues with L4 in Parallels being able to update in widows?
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I am going to buy a Mac laptop computer. I have Logos 4 on my desk computer and Libronix. Which mac laptop would you recommend as Logos 4 is the primary reason I'm using the laptop. I want to get the best laptop for (reading), (searching), ( Multiple screens), (projecting a Bible Study onto an overhead), maybe one that would transmit over my cellphone? Please give me your opinions. Jim
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JAMES HINDMAN said:
I am going to buy a Mac laptop computer.
Good move.
JAMES HINDMAN said:I have Logos 4 on my desk computer and Libronix.
Agh So a big Mac and a Little Mac - I have the same sort of arrangement.
JAMES HINDMAN said:Which mac laptop would you recommend as Logos 4 is the primary reason I'm using the laptop. I want to get the best laptop for (reading), (searching), ( Multiple screens), (projecting a Bible Study onto an overhead)
The 13in Mac Book is perfectly adequate for 'reading' and 'searches'.
It is pretty good for using in conjunction with a digital projector. I have a second screen that I plug into my 13in and use in one of my workplaces. I use it for more complex work.
JAMES HINDMAN said:maybe one that would transmit over my cellphone?
Not quite sure what you are getting at here.
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I have MacBook Pro, 15 inch. Works great for wider columns and easy to read. Can depend upon your eyesight and ease of reading issues. I am at point of getting a new Mac and am wanting to portablility of the MacBook, but really, really like the bigger screen of the Pro with my Logos.
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