Authorized Version vs King James Version in Logos

I see both the "Authorized Version" and the "King James Version" in the library. What's the difference between the two? One seems to contain the epistle dedicatory to King James and some slightly difference formatting, but is that the only difference?

Thanks!

Scott

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Suggestion thread => 1611 KJV - why not in English Bibles Collection in prepub and can it be added? has a number of links about KJV versions.

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George Somsel

I see both the "Authorized Version" and the "King James Version" in the library. What's the difference between the two? One seems to contain the epistle dedicatory to King James and some slightly difference formatting, but is that the only difference?

Thanks!

Scott

The correct name is Authorized Version. It is commonly called the "King James Version" because it was authorized by King James.

Todd Phillips

I see both the "Authorized Version" and the "King James Version" in the library. What's the difference between the two? One seems to contain the epistle dedicatory to King James and some slightly difference formatting, but is that the only difference?

The "Authorized Version" is the 1769 edtion of the KJV, and the one titled "King James Version"is the 1900 edition. You can see this if you look at the citation information in the info pane:

The 1900 King James Version resource (Blue cover) is the best supported version of the KJV in Logos---it has the most tagging and interlinear data (root, lemma, morph, referent data, LN number and Strong's number).

The 1769 edition aka "Authorized Version" (Red cover), on the other hand, only has Strong numbers tagging and no reverse interlinear.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/455884#Comment_455884

Just joking here but the 1789 version most notible feature was the missing North American colonies; the 1769 one had quickly lost favor among the Isles.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/455950#Comment_455950

Just joking here but the 1789 version most notible feature was the missing North American colonies; the 1769 one had quickly lost favor among the Isles.

Thank you for pointing out my error. I have corrected it. I believe 1789 version was lost when the only copy was dropped when fleeing the crowd gathered at the gates of the Bastille.

Ed Currie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/455884#Comment_455884

The KJV - the original ( Authorized ) version was published in 1611 | the "Oxford edition" of King James Bible was published in 1769 edition
( with the goal of making it easier to read ).. My advise is go find the "Textus Receptus" translation which is th 1611 edition... you can still find it
and it should say on the first page

THE BIBLE
Authorized Version
The Old and New Testaments
King James Version
Translated out of the original tongues and
with the former translations
diligently compared and revised
BY HIS MAJESTY'S SPECIAL COMMAND A.D. 1611

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then the publishing house name at bottom of that page

Go for the 1611 !!! It will become harder and harder to find..... there is a force at work to get this out of print !
( there were prominent translators in the late 19th century that spoke the words " that villainous Textus Receptus" )
The words of the Textus Receptus - sparked the Protestant Reformation - which lead to our freedom - Learn your history
and be sure to study the books of Daniel and Revelation - we are in this time in history
Let he who has ears listen...

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Understanding is Thinking
Understanding is the process of changing an unfamiliar situation into a familiar one ( Knowledge) so that you know how to respond.

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/784071#Comment_784071

This one's an awesome resource:

https://www.logos.com/product/30964/the-king-james-version-debate-a-plea-for-realism

I no longer go to the KJV when I need a literal translation, but to the LEB now. Why? Read Carson's essay...

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/784098#Comment_784098

Welcome to the forums Ed.

This is an interesting blog that Bob wrote in 2006 called "In Search of the King James Version" - https://blog.logos.com/2006/03/in_search_of_the_king_james_ve_1/

This one's an awesome resource:

https://www.logos.com/product/30964/the-king-james-version-debate-a-plea-for-realism

That is an excellent book.

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/784100#Comment_784100

Can we buy the 1611 version of the KIng James Bible here on LOGOS, complete with the Apocrypha ?????????

Ken McGuire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/784102#Comment_784102

There does seem to be a problem with revisers even taking books out of the Bible!

David Ames

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/784098#Comment_784098

I no longer go to the KJV when I need a literal translation, but to the LEB now. Why? Read Carson's essay...

"Offers a concise explanation of the science of textual criticism" Is a bullet point on the page describing the Carson book

There are three related fatal flaws in textual criticism.

A) Textual criticism assumes that all texts ever written can now be found. Because no Majority text before magic cut off date can be found then textual criticism proclaims that they did not every exist prior to what ever the textual critics set as a cut off date. That ignores that the dry Egyptian sand preserves while the wet ground near Istanbul / Constantinople decays.

Textural criticism ignores the Crusade against Constantinople of 1105 - 1107. Just ask your self where would all of the oldest and best Majority Texts have been kept? Maybe in the heart of the Byzantium Empire? And what did the Crusaders do to that city? They Burned it!!

C) Where is the best text that the textual critics worship found? In the Vatican. Who owns the Vatican? Who ordered the Crusades? What is the only version of the Bible that can not be found in the book stores run by the answer to the prior two questions? I see those answers as significant as they relate to the Majority text.

My collection of textual criticism in Logos has 44 resources. Not one examines the effects of the Crusades on what texts might be found. Nor do they examine the effect of locality on preserving texts nor of book burning.

Also Mark 9:29 and Matthew 17:23 - Textual criticism says that the early church added fasting to the text as the church fasted a lot. So textual criticism removed fasting from the text. Or did the early church fast a lot because they remembered that Jesus told them to?

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/784102#Comment_784102

Can we buy the 1611 version of the KIng James Bible here on LOGOS, complete with the Apocrypha ?

The 1874 version claims to include the 1611 text and revised text. If you give me an example where 1611 differs I can make a screenshot of that verse so you can judge for yourself whether that fulfills your requirements.

https://www.logos.com/product/16102/the-cambridge-paragraph-bible-of-the-authorized-english-version

James Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/784100#Comment_784100

This is an interesting blog that Bob wrote in 2006 called "In Search of the King James Version" - https://blog.logos.com/2006/03/in_search_of_the_king_james_ve_1/

Wow, I'd never known about this. Thanks for sharing Bruce :-)

DivineCordial

I see both the "Authorized Version" and the "King James Version" in the library. What's the difference between the two? One seems to contain the epistle dedicatory to King James and some slightly difference formatting, but is that the only difference?

In Logos Bible Software, the "Authorized Version" is the 1769 edition while the "King James Version" is the c.1900 edition commonly called the "Pure Cambridge Edition".

The differences amount to some slight variations in spelling, capitalizations, punctuation, and use of italics. For example, try searching for "inquire" and "enquire" in both editions using Logos.

A few other examples include:

Ezra 2:26 (Spelling)
Gaba (AV)
Geba (KJV1900)

1 John 5:8 (Capitalization)
Spirit (AV)
spirit (KJV1900)

Romans 4:18 (Punctuation)
nations, according (AV)
nations; according (KJV1900)

2 Samuel 18:29 (Italics)
Is (AV)
Is (KJV1900)

See http://www.bibleprotector.com/editions.htm for a more complete listing.

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/87273/680771.aspx#680771