Expand search results?

Abram K-J
Abram K-J Member Posts: 380 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I am wishing to expand the search results of the following, but don't see any way to do it. Am I right that it's not possible to see every single instance, ungrouped? I've gotten here by right clicking and selecting "Search this resource":

I do know that I can approximate a search similarly by using the control (or command) + F shortcut, which highlights occurrences of what I'm looking for.

 

Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
Blog: Words on the Word

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  • Abram K-J
    Abram K-J Member Posts: 380 ✭✭

    I know the greater part of a day is not that long to wait for a reply, but really curious if this is possible... I've looked all around help files, etc. to no avail.

    Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
    Blog: Words on the Word

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,433 ✭✭✭✭

    Not ignoring your inquiry Abram.  But for some reason your image can't be zoomed as most screen-shots can. If I zoom it, it justs gets harder to read.

    From what I make out, your querying the Gottingen apparatus in Isaiah.  But after that I can't quite see the actual search term to see how it's grouping.

    Normally the Gottingen apparatus displays by verse (as with other Bible indexed resources).  And so multiple instances in the apparatus discussion of a verse would require individual views.

    And yes ... I usually resort to the 'Find'  (although a lot of times the instance is in a footnote).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Abram K-J
    Abram K-J Member Posts: 380 ✭✭

    Thanks, DMB. Let me try again with the image. Is this better?image

    Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
    Blog: Words on the Word

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,195

    Abram K-J said:

    Let me try again with the image. Is this better?

    Yes. To see all results you click on the first search result in each section. In the resource, use the tab/panel menu to Show the Locator bar. On the right side click on the menu, select Search Result, and use the Up/Down arrow icons to locate the other results.

     

    Dave
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  • Abram K-J
    Abram K-J Member Posts: 380 ✭✭

    Dave,

    Thanks a lot for your reply. I've done that just now.

    Unless I'm missing something, that has the same effect as command (or control) + F... is there a way from the search itself (the screenshot I showed) to expand the results as displayed? I.e., go from "12x" to expand them out with a single click?

    Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
    Blog: Words on the Word

  • Room4more
    Room4more Member Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭

    Abram K-J said:


    Dave,

    Thanks a lot for your reply. I've done that just now.

    Unless I'm missing something, that has the same effect as command (or control) + F... is there a way from the search itself (the screenshot I showed) to expand the results as displayed? I.e., go from "12x" to expand them out with a single click?


    they are expanded - see the arrow pointing 'down' next to the book - ? unfortunately the results will not list the full article, just a portion, to see the whole article you need to click it, and the resource, will open to that section...the 12x[Kapitel 1] indicates how many times in that particular article the "301" is used or found. The next 18x [Kapitel 2] the same thing....so on, so on.....

    Hope this helps...

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  • Abram K-J
    Abram K-J Member Posts: 380 ✭✭

    Thanks--it sounds like what I'm after is not possible. What folks have suggested here are decent enough workarounds. But ideally one could click on the 18x to see all 18 instances (in that same screen, without having to leave it to go back to the resource and out of search) at once... 

    Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
    Blog: Words on the Word

  • Room4more
    Room4more Member Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭

    I am not a mac user so i am lost in that respect, but on my pc, if i click the first Kapitel 1 and the only thing open in the logos program is the 'search', it opens the resource in a tab next to it on the other side of logos program....if I choose the 14x the resources jumps to that section....i do not have to 'leave' anything.....

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,195

    Abram K-J said:

    ideally one could click on the 18x to see all 18 instances (in that same screen, without having to leave it to go back to the resource and out of search)

    Create a layout with at least 2 vertical panes and you will have Results side-by-side with the resource. If the resource is not open it will open in the adjacent pane when you click on a result. Then click on the Down arrow for the next highlighted Search Result as I described above. I find this to be extremely efficient, because one will eventually migrate to the resource irrespective of how much context is provided in Results.

    Dave
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  • Abram K-J
    Abram K-J Member Posts: 380 ✭✭

    Sure, that works. Maybe I'll just add it as a feature request to be able to quickly glance at each result within the search results pane itself.  It's obviously not a huge deal, though, to have to have 2 panes open to work through the results. Just not what I would think is the most intuitive way to work with results. But who am I? Just one user.

    Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
    Blog: Words on the Word

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,433 ✭✭✭✭

    I like your idea within the search pane itself.  I really think they need to do some work on the search pane to at least bring it up to Libronix usability (which is what I use once if find what I'm looking for in Logos5!).   Even the arrow keys don't work reliably, something introduced back in the early 90s I think. No quick snippet copying, etc.

    But what you're speaking to is viewable in the 'Bible' search side; just not on the 'Basic' side. I think they viewed 'Basic' as not Bible stuff, forgetting there's quite a bit of Bible stuff that's not literal Bible text (eg commentary, apparatus, etc).

    Normally these type of changes would be no-brainers, but their coding platform is a super-pain, and then of course everything has to be replicated in another coding platform (Windows).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Abram K-J
    Abram K-J Member Posts: 380 ✭✭

    Well said, DMB. I did note that this was just the difference between "Basic" searching and "Bible" searching. You've put it well, though, that sometimes you want to be able to search an apparatus in the same way that Logos would let you search a Bible.

    Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
    Blog: Words on the Word

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,195

    DMB said:

    I think they viewed 'Basic' as not Bible stuff, forgetting there's quite a bit of Bible stuff that's not literal Bible text (eg commentary, apparatus, etc).

    Basic Search benefits Bibles because the article level is usually a bible chapter, allowing results to span verses. Bible Search limits you to results within a verse. Thus, proximity searches for related words in a Bible benefit from Basic Search. Searching a Commentary by verse would be a nightmare, because they are not strictly organised by verse** and the comments can be much longer than the same verse in a bible!

     

    ** EBC Vol 8 Matthew - Luke

      Matt 1:1 - 2:23

            Matt 1:1-17

                Matt  1:1

                Matt  1:2-17

                   Matt 1:2

                   Matt 1:3-5

    Dave
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