Anyone using an Intel Atom Z2760 powered tablet with Windows 8 and Logos 5?
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Joshua Lieder said:
I liked the Samsung 500T and the 700T for awhile but am too scared about the disconnects from the keyboard which are quite prevalent in reviews.
Joshua,
I tried out a 700T for almost a month. I had no keyboard disconnects.
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alabama24 said:
The reason for hidden resources (in my nomenclature) is a kind of "reverse" prioritization. Search results wouldnt be junked up by these resources, but from time to time you might want to "wade" around and see what is there.
I've had this half-baked idea for a suggestion rolling around in my head for a while now about über-collections so that each collection had options for 1) hide in library, 2) hide in searches, etc. Also adding ordered non-dynamic collections which could be used in prioritizations (eg. create an ordered collection of bibles prioritized the way you like and drag that collection to the prioritization list (easy to change between multiple sets of prioritizations!). Collection could also be used for sets of resources you want installed to a particular device or set of devices to make device management easier with an "Install all to..." option. Etc.
Hadn't really thought it through fully though. Those features are mostly available already-this just adds another (simpler?) way to do it. ???
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Bill Anderson said:Joshua Lieder said:
I liked the Samsung 500T and the 700T for awhile but am too scared about the disconnects from the keyboard which are quite prevalent in reviews.
Joshua,
I tried out a 700T for almost a month. I had no keyboard disconnects.
I've also never had this happen. I think it was a bad batch.0 -
Since some of you asked about my experiences with the Asus VivoTab Smart and L5, here are my first impressions. Keep in mind that I'm still on a learning curve. Though I have used an iPad and an Android tablet before, this is my first encounter with Windows 8. I've had this VivoTab for only two days, and spent much of my available time downloading Windows updates, app updates, and L5 resources. But at last, I can get into L5 itself.
I was pleased to see my home screen from my desktop greet me when L5 loaded for the first time. That simplifies things. It's great to have the full desktop program in tablet form. Everything works so far. It is slower than my desktop (an I5 system running Windows 7 and with a new SSD), but not that slow. There is a slight delay when switching from one window to another. A Bible search takes a few seconds. But there are no long delays. I use a Bluetooth mouse with it (highly recommended). I did not buy a physical keyboard. I will if I see the need.
The only glitch I have encountered so far happens when I try to save a layout. L5 goes into Not Responding mode for a few seconds, then comes out of it and shows me the layout drop down window. The feature works, but with that weird delay.
All in all, my first impression is very positive. L5 works well enough on an Atom Windows 8 tablet.
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Hi Mark
Thanks for providing the feedback - appreciated.
There have been questions raised as to how well this type of tablet would scale with number of Logos resources.
Are you able to advise roughly how many resources you have in your library?
Thanks, Graham
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I have about 1300 resources. I needed to download a little over seven gigs when I set up L5. I don't use all those resources, though. Some may go the way of "hidden resources". I will set up a few collections as well, to focus certain types of searches.
I haven't used my microsd card yet, and I have about 14 gigs left on my tablet's hard drive.
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Mark Nolette said:
I have about 14 gigs left on my tablet's hard drive.
That's not very much! [:S]
Mark Nolette said:I don't use all those resources, though. Some may go the way of "hidden resources".
I think you know this, but when you "hide" resources on one device, it "hides" them from all others as well. It is an "all or nothing" proposition. I would be cautious about hiding too much. One of the advantages of having a large library is serendipity.
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alabama24 said:
Although, that does not sound like very much, believe it or not, it is adequate and workable for the kind of device these tablets are. They are not designed to replace your desktop computer. And, if you store your personal data files on an SD card and/or in the cloud you can manage fine with this.
I was very concerned about the meager amount of storage too (64GB). But, after installed only the applications and apps I really intend to use on the tablet, I have found the storage to be workable. I have about 15 GB free on internal storage and I have a 32 GB SD card for additional storage.
Your needs may be different though.
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Agreed. Since this tablet isn't going to be my only computer (not yet), I don't need a huge amount of hard drive space. However, here's another option for those who so. With any Windows 8 tablet, you can make a Recovery disk with a USB key of at least 8 gigs. This is not only a wise backup, but it also allows you to delete the seven gig recovery section from your hard drive. Yes, my tablet has only a microUSB port. I found a microUSB to USB adapter and tried the four gig key I have now. My tablet can see the key. So this approach should work for any of us if needed.
Getting back to Logos 5, I'm enjoying having access to all the resources I want to use, in a tablet format. There is some delay in certain functions, but nothing outrageous. The only advantage that the iPad app has is that the text on the iPad is a little crisper. But I notice that if I enlarge the Logos font, the difference between the two is greatly reduced. I wonder if the Surface has sharper text, with its better resolution?
Even though Logos 5 wasn't designed with touchscreens in mind, that doesn't feel like a great limitation to me. Using a Bluetooth mouse helps a lot. I haven't tried a stylus, but I can see how that might also be helpful. Using the onscreen keyboard can be a little tricky, however. Occasionally I'll call up the keyboard to type something in a search space, and then the search window disappears. Not always, but often enough. This is one case where a physical keyboard would help.
I'm using the onscreen keyboard to type this. I finally figured out how to type a longer email without having the part I'm typing obscured by the keyboard! The learning curve continues.
Still, all in all, to get full Windows 8 on a tablet, at this price, and to have my full desktop L5 on said tablet, makes this quite a deal, in my book! YMMV!
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mi dos centaqvos....
1. a tablet computer is NOT the same as a tablet device. I am running a tablet PC ASUS EP121. win8 pro x64. the desktop app L5 - runs great! though the software as mentioned, is not a touch-interface-developed software package. I hope that a touch interface is available at least optionally at some point in the future.
2. The Bible! applet that runs on the metro (start screen) interface, works, but is way to limited in my opinion to be of any real use for me. The Bible applet (applet is not the same as application - perhaps semantics, but that's how I differentiate) runs great on my ipad and my android smartphone. and works much better (feature-wise), than the Bible applet on win8 surface and win8metro interface.
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