5.0b (5.0.2.0562) available for download
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Can someone explain how this function works:Implemented
Mobile Download Management. Manage download to mobile devices on resource information panel in My Library or in resource information pane in Resource Panel. Unregister devices on your Logos.com account page.
The registered devices should show up in the Resource info window in the Library for each resource, allowing you to see which apps on which devices have downloaded the resource. You can check the checkbox to force the resource to be downloaded next time you open the app. Or uncheck it to remove the resource from the app.
This example shows that Logos knows about my iPad and that I've installed those four different Logos apps at some time: Faithlife, Logos, Verbum, and Vyrso. The Logos app is the only app that has downloaded this resource, so it is the only one checked. BTW, I only have Logos and Vyrso currently installed (the Logos servers can't detect when I uninstall an app). If I checked the checkbox under the Vyrso icon, then the Vyrso app would download the resource the next time I opened Vryso. If I unchecked the checkbox under the Logos icon, then the Logos app would delete the resource the next time I opened that app.
Multiple select works with these options, so you can easily add or remove groups of books from each device.
Also you can remove registered devices by going to your account details on the Logos website. On the main account details tab, towards the bottom of the page, there is a list of devices that the Logos servers know about. If you move the mouse over them, you see links to edit (change the name) or remove them from the list.
If your device doesn't show up, I would make sure you have the latest version of the mobile app for your device.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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DMB said:
I know it's against Logos policy, but I really wish users could 'save to disk' since at the moment I've no confidence concerning the viability of my large 90 resource layout. I suspect it's going to bite the dust soon enough.
90 resources? Could you post a picture of that? I'm having a hard time imagining why having 90 resources open at the same time would be useful.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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Can't post a picture; it's on 5 windows. It started out with Logos4 on a netbook when resources were slow to load. But eventually it became 'my platform'. OT is in one window, NT another, lexicons all linked in another along with pre-set search panels and pre-set library, etc. Plus a couple of reading windows (separate subject areas).
Logos has a lot little tweaks that are nice. One is the ability to have multiple comparison panels, cited-by panels, search panels, etc which then allows creating tailored layouts per window (and not having to re-invent each time).
So with W7's stable 'sleep' I simply load it and it's there for use for weeks at a time. All in predictable places, etc. What's even better is that the windows load out predictably into the MS Windows task bar so each is in a known order.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
I know it's against Logos policy, but I really wish users could 'save to disk' since at the moment I've no confidence concerning the viability of my large 90 resource layout. I suspect it's going to bite the dust soon enough.
Yes, local backup of layouts, collections, notes and a few others
Maybe, next time you use the 90 resource layout you might want to check memory usage before and after. Did Logos run out of memory?
Edit: “never had a
memory issue” I did say maybe –
More Bibles take more memory soLogos Memory usage
Count of Bibles open and free memoryOpen blank screen no home page 1098 free
Open multi bible layout 13 996 free
Open multi bible layout 18 970 free
Open multi bible layout 26 902 free
Open multi bible layout 34 870 free
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Logos4 or 5 has never had a memory issue on my netbook before or Lenovo x220 now. RAM shifts 1% between a blank layout and a fully-loaded one. Plus surprisingly the large layout loads fairly quickly. I think a while back in Logos4 they optimized the resource loads as to how much was kept in memory.
It's a nice piece of programming work, whoever did it (loading and coordinating resources across formats, fonts, etc).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
Here's the log files this morning. I notice it usually takes about 10 seconds for it to 'respond to crash' (meaning it's fully operable in those 10 seconds, before the software is de-contrasted).
Thanks for posting the logs. I can reproduce this crash when working offline. It will be fixed in 5.0b SR-1.
As a workaround, either work online or don't change those settings when working offline.
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DMB said:
Goodness, the new Layout changes (Layout panel) vs the startup is positively dangerous. I'm not trying to be critical or snobby; it just needs some review of the program flow.
The identification of the layout (title/layout panel) needs to make sure the layout was actually loaded.
Right now, a saved icon from the Users/<account>/AppData/Local/Logos4 (meaning a clean icon) will load up my Logos5, no layout showing, but the title shows a layout name (my big one) and opening the Layout panel shows the big layout in use (even though it's a blank layout being used). In my settings, the open layout is set to 'Home' even though it thinks it has loaded my big-boy layout. And the opening doesn't open to 'Home' anyway; not sure about 'that' bug.
Bottom line is to be very careful updating the layouts. In my case it's pretty obvious: a blank layout vs a 5-window layout. But other people might have layouts with very minor differences.
I'm sorry, but I don't follow what you're describing here. I'm not sure what you mean by "a saved icon ... meaning a clean icon".
I think I'm understanding (from the rest of your post) that you have "At Startup Open To" set to "Home", but when you open the program it opens to a blank layout and displays "Logos Bible Software 5 - Some Other Layout" in the window caption? Is that correct?
Can you please post more specific steps to reproduce this problem?
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Thank you Bradley on the crash issue.
And also on the startup curiousity. I put 'clean icon' since I also use a dirty icon (with a dummy argument to force a blank screen). So in the problem description, I was / am using a default startup (no funny business).
After playing around with it a while, the problem seems to be in the Tools > Settings > Startup option. If it's set to a specific layout, all goes well. If it's set to 'Home' then during startup, it seems to think it has loaded the last used layout, even though no layout is actually loaded. The title shows a layout loaded but a blank screen. Then if you go to the layout panel, it has the last-used-layout as checked even though the layout in use is blank.
So I'm guessing if there's an issue, it's in the 'Home' logic in combination with a previously used layout. I zipped 2 files produced during startup (no error/crash files produced).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
After playing around with it a while, the problem seems to be in the Tools > Settings > Startup option. If it's set to a specific layout, all goes well. If it's set to 'Home' then during startup, it seems to think it has loaded the last used layout, even though no layout is actually loaded. The title shows a layout loaded but a blank screen. Then if you go to the layout panel, it has the last-used-layout as checked even though the layout in use is blank.
So I'm guessing if there's an issue, it's in the 'Home' logic in combination with a previously used layout.
I can reproduce this problem (although not opening to a blank screen; when I select "Home", the home page opens).
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Thank you Bradley!
Scott, it's five W7 windows (single touch-screen).
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."If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Hi
My computer isn't able to update for some reason. When I start Logos it asks if I'd like to update and say yes. It begins install but then I get the following pop-up:
"Error writing to file: C:\Users\Tony\AppData\Local\Logos4\en-US\logos.exe.mui. Verify that you have access to that directory" and when I click "retry" it just keeps popping up. I can personally navigate to that file but the Logos install doesn't seem to be able to. I've disabled my antivirus and still didn't work.
Specs: Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit on a Dell XPS laptop with i7-2760QM 8 GB RAM and AVG anti-virus
Current version of Logos: 5.0a SR-4 (5.0.1.0291)
Thanks
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Hi Tony,
Sorry about the trouble. Try the solution here http://www.logos.com/support/logos5/windows/error-writing-to-file. Let me know if that helps or not.
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On the layout panel naming change.
I noticed if I am in a named panel and decide to use it as a starting place to create a different pattern, then I go and name the new one, the focus does not change and would have caused problems if I had not noticed it. What I mean is that there is a check mark on the one I started with. Then I create a new name from the changes. That stores properly, but the check mark stays on the first layout. Now if I started reading on my new layout I would be in the old one and when I quit I would lose all I did. So I went and selected the new one I stored and it completely overwrote the one I was in, even though they were the same. I hope you understand what I am trying to convey. When you rename a layout to a new name at the current layout, it saves but does not change the focus to that new name. This could cause problems I think.
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Absolutely correct Michael. When you 'save' a layout, it requires a 'renaming' process, at which that's the current layout and should be awarded the checkmark.
That's how conceptually it works in Libronix, as well as most word processors. I have my own Bible software, and disaster strikes if the new name isn't assigned to the current view in the system. The user who borders on stupid (me), always forgets.
I suspect they view the process as having a stack of cards on the right side of the layout menu, and simply giving names to the stack of cards. Not naming the actual layout the user is using and therefore not moving the checkmark or the title of the window.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Michael Lasley said:
When you rename a layout to a new name at the current layout, it saves
but does not change the focus to that new name. This could cause
problems I think.This is one of the gotcha's with Active Layout. It expects you to keep track of layout changes and the relationship to the "Active" name i.e. in this case you have to "load" the newly named layout to make it active. Other cases are more prone to error.
Michael Lasley said:Now if I started reading on my new layout I would be in the old one and when I quit I would lose all I did.
When you exit Logos it is saved as "Application Closed" along with others of the same name. Depending on your Settings (below) it could be loaded on restart, but with the wrong name.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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I love the Mobile Download Management feature!
It could be enhanced a bit. Here are a couple of suggestions:
- Show registration date (useful for when apps were registered on same device mutliple times, i.e., after device wipe, etc.)
- Show additional info to identify device (useful in cases where a user has more than one of the same device model and apps were registered on all of them). Amazon uses device serial number, but not sure if this is the wisest choice.
Thanks.
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:DMB said:
After playing around with it a while, the problem seems to be in the Tools > Settings > Startup option. If it's set to a specific layout, all goes well. If it's set to 'Home' then during startup, it seems to think it has loaded the last used layout, even though no layout is actually loaded. The title shows a layout loaded but a blank screen. Then if you go to the layout panel, it has the last-used-layout as checked even though the layout in use is blank.
So I'm guessing if there's an issue, it's in the 'Home' logic in combination with a previously used layout.
I can reproduce this problem (although not opening to a blank screen; when I select "Home", the home page opens).
I ran this scenario, and:
When using the “HOME” choice from the settings is loaded the home page, when I was thinking it would load my made “HOME” layout..
I renamed it to “CLEAN” and it loaded just fine - changed the settings to this as well….
So I deleted the home-made icon and it removed it from the settings as well, but did notice that there was still a choice of “HOME” in the list, which when chosen loads the home page….
I let everything sync. Then restarted the program. I then loaded a homemade layout, from my own icons, went to settings and chose the “Blank Layout” from the settings then closed the program after it sync’d.
When I re-strated the program everything did as expected, loaded to a blank screen, no misunderstandings from the program.
There was no apparent problem of stating one layout and loading another. The title bar claimed nothing as being loaded, even tho I closed with a chosen layout from my home-made icons. Also, i did not have to "update active layout" before i closed the program, when I chose it[icon] it loaded to where i was.....
It seems to be having a pharsing problem when you have a custom icon called “HOME”.
Hope this helps.
DISCLAIMER: What you do on YOUR computer is your doing.
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:DMB said:
After playing around with it a while, the problem seems to be in the Tools > Settings > Startup option. If it's set to a specific layout, all goes well. If it's set to 'Home' then during startup, it seems to think it has loaded the last used layout, even though no layout is actually loaded. The title shows a layout loaded but a blank screen. Then if you go to the layout panel, it has the last-used-layout as checked even though the layout in use is blank.
So I'm guessing if there's an issue, it's in the 'Home' logic in combination with a previously used layout.
I can reproduce this problem (although not opening to a blank screen; when I select "Home", the home page opens).
I ran this scenario, SECOND RUN;
Created an icon and called it 'word study' - open some resources and linked them etc., etc. like it was real.
Created a second icon and called it 'pseudo-apoc' - loaded resources as above stated.
restart.
Loaded the wordstudy and set the settings to "Wordstudy" - opend the pseudo from my icon, let sync.
restart
The title bar claims "WORDSTUDY" but the layouts are discombobbulated - it seems to want to load both.....
hope this helps.....
DISCLAIMER: What you do on YOUR computer is your doing.
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DMB said:
Can't post a picture; it's on 5 windows. It started out with Logos4 on a netbook when resources were slow to load. But eventually it became 'my platform'. OT is in one window, NT another, lexicons all linked in another along with pre-set search panels and pre-set library, etc. Plus a couple of reading windows (separate subject areas).
Logos has a lot little tweaks that are nice. One is the ability to have multiple comparison panels, cited-by panels, search panels, etc which then allows creating tailored layouts per window (and not having to re-invent each time).
So with W7's stable 'sleep' I simply load it and it's there for use for weeks at a time. All in predictable places, etc. What's even better is that the windows load out predictably into the MS Windows task bar so each is in a known order.
DMB, I haven't counted the number of resources that I have 'open' in multiple panes, but it is at least thirty or forty. Thankfully, this doesn't slow Logos down since it only seems to access a resource when it is shown, so multiple resources that are listed is tabs but which have not been viewed yet don't seem to hog system resources. It seems that only the visible content is cached, not the tabs that are behind.
But it would be great to be able to open/close a pane which contains multiple related resources (e.g. original language lexicons/dictionaries etc, or another with commentaries) independently. At present, everything is saved as a layout. It would be great to be able to open/close sub-layout panes one at a time, without affecting other panes. Here is a link to the uservoice suggestion for this: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-5/suggestions/1035553-floating-window-layouts
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Tommy Ball said:
Hi Tony,
Sorry about the trouble. Try the solution here http://www.logos.com/support/logos5/windows/error-writing-to-file. Let me know if that helps or not.
Yes it worked! Thanks heaps!
tony
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