Logos 5 for Mac

I had L4 platinum on my Macbook Pro and the salesmen told me L5 was much faster now. Is it just me, but I don't find it any faster at all. When I try to open it from start it seems to take almost two minutes at least. Logos 4 opened much faster.

Next, I don't like staring at an all white background. I noticed a friend who has both Accordance and Logos showed me how to get Logos background to look like accordance. The feature is called "resource panel background", I can keep it white, make it grey, or make it like a pinkish/orange looking color. The "paper" option really helps my eyes; however, I notice that sometimes it looks white still and I have not altered the settings to go back to default "white". I check and it is in "paper" mode but looks white. Then other times I'll reopen and it looks like the pinkish/orangish color again. What is that all about? Does this happen to anyone else? This seems to be constantly happening. I asked him if Accordance ever does that and he said no.

Then doing a biblical word search seems to take forever. Am I doing that incorrect? I use search (while typing) surface text in All passages in Top Bibles for. I find that I can go to google and do it so much faster and find the texts I am needing. Hence defeating some of the purpose of L5. In my friends accordance, his macbook pro gets the results faster than google, I mean that thing is sick fast! He said he got the biblical languages pack because he felt L% was just too slow. While I would like to do the same I can't afford it at the moment.

Another thing I get is when I'm trying to shut down it always seems to try to be synchronizing or indexing something and it takes forever to shut down. I don't remember this happening to me with L4. I really love the newer features in L5 but I'm wondering if I made the wrong decision to upgrade to gold? Am I doing things wrong or do others find themselves with these same results? My mac is a 2008 MBP, 4gb, 2.4 ghz, intel core 2 duo, 10.6.8. My friends is a 2011 MBP, not sure what its internals are. My MBP sometimes has nothing else opened and I first click on logos and I encounter all these things.

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Michael Hite

Quick question - has Logos 5 completely finished indexing? The program can be very sluggish while indexing. You should have an icon in your menu bar that will show you when Logos is downloading and indexing.

JT (alabama24)

Logos 4 opened much faster.

I think most users have reported L5 being faster, but not all.

My mac is a 2008 MBP, 4gb, 2.4 ghz, intel core 2 duo, 10.6.8.

Your computer is certainly an outlier. I am complaining about my 2011 MBP… (but L5 IS running faster for me than L4). Out of curiosity… what does your HD free space look like?

I check and it is in "paper" mode but looks white.

I also have mine set to paper. NOTE: this effects the resources only… other boxes & panels are still white.

Then doing a biblical word search seems to take forever. Am I doing that incorrect?

Can you give an example?

In my friends accordance, his macbook pro gets the results faster than google

I have not used accordance, but others sing its praises for language work. Since I massacre the english language, I try to stay away from those as much as I can… However, is it really fair to compare your friends MBP (which is 3 years newer)? [;)]

JT (alabama24)

Quick question - has Logos 5 completely finished indexing? The program can be very sluggish while indexing.

Good point! [:)]

Rev. 14:6

I do notice when it is indexing on the top, I see the blue icon, but every time this is not the case and when I go to shut it down there is nothing being indexed on the toolbar. When I go to shut down I get a grey box saying that it is synchronizing and then the option to exit now. I click that and nothing happens. I go to the dock and have to force quit. I never had that with L4.

JT (alabama24)

When I go to shut down I get a grey box saying that it is synchronizing and then the option to exit now. I click that and nothing happens. I go to the dock and have to force quit. I never had that with L4.

I have had this a few times, but there are some other users who are reporting the same thing is happening more frequently for them. You might want to try and clear your history and see if that helps.

Rev. 14:6

"what does your HD free space look like?"

Well that is a good question. Capacity is 199.71 GB, used is 164.8 GB on disk, available is 34.9 GB; so this may be a big reason. Does it really matter that much? I have been looking into a iMac 27inch screen it seems to be capable of 32 gb memory, so the genius told me. Then empty my 2008 MBP and use as my mobile computer.

2013 iMac 27inch

3.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB (two 4GB) memory, capable of 32GB
1TB hard drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX with 1GB

Rev. 14:6

"is it really fair to compare your friends MBP (which is 3 years newer)?" No you may have a point there, but what I am saying is my friends MBP, while newer than mine, is really slow in L5, and accordance is just rippin fast. I really can't believe it can be that fast. He has vm ware fusing running in the background, itunes open, google chrome open, word, ppt, etc, etc, and accordance just fast.

Fr. Charles R. Matheny

Dear Rev. I own Accordance and Logos. Comparing the two is just futile.

Accordance is, as you say " ripping fast " and is so at everything.

Accordance is based on Apple technology , started there, grew up there and makes use of software and hardware on Macs.

Unfortunately the library is pretty limited. If you are doing primarily exegetical work, it's fine, all the tools you need. But if you look at a lot of resources, history etc, they just don't have access to those licenses.

Logos is a huge library, the Mac version is still based in Windows technologies and thus, is slower, much slower.

Large libraries take more time to go through, if in person or, by computer, just does.

The primary thing you are running into those is the bottlenecks created by the interface used to bridge between Windows code an Mac code. It is what it is.

I use Logos as my library system and Accordance as my Exegetical tools and it's a pretty happy mix that way. Hope this helps.

JT (alabama24)

Capacity is 199.71 GB, used is 164.8 GB on disk, available is 34.9 GB; so this may be a big reason. Does it really matter that much?

Does it really matter much? Yes. Traditional hard drives can really slow down when they get full. Personally, I think "half full" is a good target for the high end.

I have been looking into a iMac 27inch screen

The specs look good… but the absolute best performance will be found by using a solid state drive (SSD). One option is to look into a "fusion drive" from Apple. This combines a traditional hard drive (for storage capacity) with an SSD for speed.

Fr. Charles is a good source of info between the two systems on the Mac platform. [Y]

Dan Francis

For me on my Mid 2010 i7 MacBook Pro 15" I found that L5 to be much more stable and a bit faster.

-dan

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

Rev. 14:6">Capacity is 199.71 GB, used is 164.8 GB on disk, available is 34.9 GB; so this may be a big reason. Does it really matter that much?

Does it really matter much? Yes. Traditional hard drives can really slow down when they get full. Personally, I think "half full" is a good target for the high end.

Blog has graph showing hard disk transfer speed degradation as disk physically fills up => http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-fast-is-linux-sata-hard-disk.html

For longer battery life, Apple uses 5400 RPM hard drives. Upgrading to 7200 RPM can be up to 30 % faster, albeit usable time on battery decreases.

Concur Solid State Disk (SSD) is noticeably faster for Logos 5 on Mac and PC.

Keep Smiling [:)]