4 Orthodox CP Collections that Need a Little Help

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

These are inching closer and closer to going into production. Make a bid if you haven't already.

Also, The Greek Fathers will come off Community Pricing on Friday (7/12), so get your bids in before the price goes up!

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  • Daniel Yoder
    Daniel Yoder Member Posts: 540 ✭✭

    I've bid on all five of these.  Let's go folks!

  • John Gibson
    John Gibson Member Posts: 1

    Saint MIchael the Archangel (1894)

    Confessions and Catechisms (1893-1899)

    Early Christian Literature Primers (1879-1884)

    Monasticism of St. Basil (1912-1913)

    Why does Logos continue to foist this dated trash on us? And why so much material that is in the public domain, i.e., available for free? There are plenty of good reasons why scholars use current translations and editions of texts. As a PhD Candidate in Patristics, I am finding myself increasingly regretful for having spent a good bit of money on Logos.

  • Ken McGuire
    Ken McGuire Member Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭

    Why does Logos continue to foist this dated trash on us? And why so much material that is in the public domain, i.e., available for free? There are plenty of good reasons why scholars use current translations and editions of texts. As a PhD Candidate in Patristics, I am finding myself increasingly regretful for having spent a good bit of money on Logos.

    I certainly understand a bit of your frustration - even if I am very much an amateur at patristics.  In fact, that is one reason I have repeatedly requested the New City Augustine translations as well as the Routledge Early Church Fathers series.

    But this thread is about some community pricing titles.  Community Pricing is a system where Logos figures out the cost to digitize, etc., and lets us figure out how (or if) we can pay it.  This only works for Public Domain titles or other weird works where Logos would not have to pay for any rights.

    I do fear that these works as "good enough" will be the enemy of the top notch works for most users, and so the top stuff will never come.  After all, many people seem shocked that there are more fathers than in the 19th century collection of NPNF...

    Now you are more of an expert than I, but when I look at the bibliography of the Popular Patristics volume I am reading (On the Unity of Christ, published in 1995), when McGuckin lists English Translations, I see dates of 1859, 1872, 1874, 1881, 1881, 1885, 1886, 1899 (with later reprints), a collection from 1938 which reproduces a 19th century translation, and then FINALLY two works from the 1980's and his own study from 1994.  For some reason Cyril (one of the most influential fathers) went a long time before being re-translated, and so those old translations (unfortunately?) still have value.

    SDG

    Ken McGuire

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  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭

     (1894)  (1893-1899)  (1879-1884)  (1912-1913)

    Why does Logos continue to foist this dated trash on us? And why so much material that is in the public domain, i.e., available for free? There are plenty of good reasons why scholars use current translations and editions of texts. 

    Is it 'trash' or over looked 'pearls'? The last few weeks I have been deeply reading some works of the last quarter of the 1800s. I have found that the works I examined were very well thought out.  Yes, today's writers say 'other things' but could a writer make a living just repeating what writers of past times said? No, they have to say something 'new and exciting'.  They have to show that those writers of old did not know what they were talking about. 

    In with the new and out with the old is the saying of today.  Or were they right back then?  And those of today just trying to make money?

    I have also spent hours getting some of those writings in to PBB format - It can be a lot of work. [End notes don't always link correctly and need to be done by hand - if the price is right paying to have it done for me can be 'priceless']