I would like to see more stand-alone editions of the church fathers

Rosie Perera
Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Yes, we've got ECF, and that's great. But if I want to read through Augustine's City of God for example, which is on my list of books I've yet to read that I want to someday soon, I'd rather read it in a stand-alone edition such as Penguin Classics or Modern Library. They've often got more recent translations, new introductions, and usually extensive footnotes. Also it would be stand-alone so I could tag it as "FINISHED" once I've read it, even if I haven't read the other works of his that come in that ECF volume.

If I go into the Regent College Bookstore, they've got a whole huge bookcase of Christian classics (we're talking Early Church Fathers and that level of "classic"ness) in print, and it's like being a kid in a candy store. I would love to see that experience replicated in the Logos catalog.

Wish I could post a list of suggested titles right now but they are in the middle of revamping their website and their catalog is offline at the moment.

However, start with Augustine (based on my print library and what I can find on Amazon.com):

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  • Ken McGuire
    Ken McGuire Member Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭

    Not sure if Augustine is the place to start for Eastern church, but I agree with most of your choices.  I have suggested the whole New City set before.

    Before we leave Augustine, the Chadwick translation of Confessions on Oxford World Classics is quite good, as is Dyson's City of God from Cambridge...

    But moving East - Chadwick's translation of Contra Celsum is good.  Trigg's collection of various texts on Routledge is a quite helpful introduction.  In fact, the whole Routledge series has many fine translations of works that are not that available elsewhere.

    Many of McGuckin's works on Cyril would be welcome, as would Behr's volumes on the formation of Christian Theology...

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  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    There are modern translations of everything St. Augustine has ever written on the way. I can't say when (or from whom), but rest assured they are around the corner. The same goes for practically all of the early Church fathers.

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  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815
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    Ken McGuire said:

    Trigg's collection of various texts on Routledge is a quite helpful introduction.  In fact, the whole Routledge series has many fine translations of works that are not that available elsewhere.

    We are working on a relationship with Routledge for their patristic studies, as well. Will keep you posted.

    Ken McGuire said:

    Many of McGuckin's works on Cyril would be welcome, as would Behr's volumes on the formation of Christian Theology.

    Behr's Formation of Christian Theology (3 vols.) will be in our next batch of volumes from St. Vladimir's Seminary Press. Unfortunately, I also don't have a date on those yet. They are very busy with their summer production/promotion/conference schedule. Will keep you posted.

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  • Graham Owen
    Graham Owen Member Posts: 665

    Rosie Perera said:

    Also it would be stand-alone so I could tag it as "FINISHED" once I've read it, even if I haven't read the other works of his that come in that ECF volume.

    One of the benefits of the digital format is that Logos are not restricted to the physical book format, we see this when multi volume collections ship as single volumes. So, why can't we have the ability to define special type of resource, possibly called a 'virtual book' that would be a part of a larger work. This would enable us to break out single books from the larger volumes like Francis Schaeffer, The Harvard Collections or the ECF mentioned here. 

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    Graham

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ken McGuire said:

    Not sure if Augustine is the place to start for Eastern church, but I agree with most of your choices. 

    True, that was pretty random of me. I was just starting with him since he's almost the first alphabetically on my shelf of church fathers. I also have Athanasius, but I thought it would be more interesting to pick an author that I could list quite a number of titles from.

    Gabe Martini said:

    There are modern translations of everything St. Augustine has ever written on the way. I can't say when (or from whom), but rest assured they are around the corner. The same goes for practically all of the early Church fathers.

    Yay! [:)]

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Graham Owen said:

    Rosie Perera said:

    Also it would be stand-alone so I could tag it as "FINISHED" once I've read it, even if I haven't read the other works of his that come in that ECF volume.

    One of the benefits of the digital format is that Logos are not restricted to the physical book format, we see this when multi volume collections ship as single volumes. So, why can't we have the ability to define special type of resource, possibly called a 'virtual book' that would be a part of a larger work. This would enable us to break out single books from the larger volumes like Francis Schaeffer, The Harvard Collections or the ECF mentioned here. 

    This has been requested before (can't find the thread right now and am not sure if it's on UserVoice yet). I would really love to see it happen!

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