Inline Strong's in KJV?
On my old Libronix, my KJV included Strong's numbers for each word. These were key for looking up words in TWOT and other Hebrew resources.
In Logos 5, however, I can't seem to find how to make these Strong's numbers visible in my KJV. Can someone help?
Also, is there an answer workflow now in Logos 5 for identifying the Strong's number for a work in the OT or NT and easily opening the corresponding entry in Kittel (TDNT), BAGD, TWOT, or BDB?
Thanks!
David
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Hi David,
David Massey said:In Logos 5, however, I can't seem to find how to make these Strong's numbers visible in my KJV.
In the KJV click on the "Display" button and then select both "Surface" and "Strong's"
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David Massey said:Also, is there an answer workflow now in Logos 5 for identifying the Strong's number for a work in the OT or NT and easily opening the corresponding entry in Kittel (TDNT), BAGD, TWOT, or BDB?
You need to prioritize your library to determine the dictionaries that open first when you click on the Strong's number or do a Bible Word Study.
For prioritization help see the Wiki at: http://wiki.logos.com/Prioritizing
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I am not seeing "King James Version," anymore. It's just calling it "Authorized Version" and it doesn't have the "Display" button at the top.0
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David Massey said:
I am not seeing "King James Version," anymore.
Try typing "KJV" in the command bar at the top of the Logos home page.
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Oddly, only the "Authorized Version" appears, I know I had KJV before. Is it, perhaps, a free download?
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David Massey said:
Oddly, only the "Authorized Version" appears
Do you have one of the base packages? I just double checked and the KJV comes with all of the base packages.
If you do have a base package, how long have you had Logos 5? Is it a brand new installation?
When you upgraded from Libronix to Logos 5, did you sync your licenses to the server?
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Upon further thought. If you still have Libronix installed:
- Sync licenses with the Logos servers.
- Sign into Logos 5 with the same user name.
- Type "Update Now" (quicker) or "Update Resources" (more thorough) into the command bar and see if it downloads to Logos 5.
The KJV is not a free download according to the products page. It is about $10.00 (U.S.)
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I have Scholar's Silver Library (from way back) and it had KJV. Just got through working with Logos Support, before encountering this problem. They had me send them my backup license file and they uploaded it. My Logos 5 installation immediately updated itself. But it doesn't appear to have added my KJV. I've emailed them back for help on it. Hopefully, will hear back soon. Thanks!
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David Massey said:
I've emailed them back for help on it. Hopefully, will hear back soon.
Great, it looks as if you are making progress. Be warned though that their email support is the slowest of all solutions. If you are in the United States I would highly suggest calling their toll free number.
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I tried this and left my Libronix running all night - it would not sync, although it had an Internet connection - it just stayed stuck on Step 2. That's why I called support, and she had me do it manually by emailing her the file. Shouldn't that have added back my KJV? Odd.
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David Massey said:
Oddly, only the "Authorized Version" appears, I know I had KJV before. Is it, perhaps, a free download?
The KJV IS the Authorized Version. As a matter of fact, "Authorized Version" is its correct name.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
The KJV IS the Authorized Version. As a matter of fact, "Authorized Version" is its correct name.
I understand that but Logos has at least two different resources. One is titled "King James Version" and has interlinear capabilities and the other is titled "Authorized Version" and has no interlinear capability.
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Absolutely true, George! *smile* Peace to you!George Somsel said:David Massey said:Oddly, only the "Authorized Version" appears, I know I had KJV before. Is it, perhaps, a free download?
The KJV IS the Authorized Version. As a matter of fact, "Authorized Version" is its correct name.
I would think it were better to spell it "authorised," however, "what is ... IS,eh?!!!??"
In my Logos Installation, they are two separate resources .... the authorized is the 1769 KJV, the KJV is the 1900 KJV ... The Cambridge Bible is also a separate resource. Also the 1900 KJV has the Logos Interlinear setup ........... anathema indeed to you, George!
EDIT!!! ooppsss! Sorry! That didn't come out right! No way! The "anathema" was regarding the interlinear which George finds less than desirable. *smile* Blessings!
EDIT 2!!! I'm sorry I used that word and I do sincerely apologise! It was supposed to have been funny; however, I can see how it could be considered "offensive" by some...... What to do??? Thought it might be better to leave it ......... and to express my sincere regrets ....... which I do! Happy Thanksgiving Weekend one more time to my American Friends! *smile*
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Milford Charles Murray said:
In my Logos Installation, they are two separate resources .... the authorized is the 1769 KJV, the KJV is the 1900 KJV ... The Cambridge Bible is also a separate resource. Also the 1900 KJV has the Logos Interlinear setup ........... anathema indeed to you, George!
EDIT!!! ooppsss! Sorry! That didn't come out right! No way! The "anathema" was regarding the interlinear which George finds less than desirable. *smile* Blessings!
Yes, a pox upon it.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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So which church council or pope has George upset this time with his comments about interlinears?
George Somsel said:Milford Charles Murray said:In my Logos Installation, they are two separate resources .... the authorized is the 1769 KJV, the KJV is the 1900 KJV ... The Cambridge Bible is also a separate resource. Also the 1900 KJV has the Logos Interlinear setup ........... anathema indeed to you, George!
EDIT!!! ooppsss! Sorry! That didn't come out right! No way! The "anathema" was regarding the interlinear which George finds less than desirable. *smile* Blessings!
Yes, a pox upon it.
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Logos has three different KJV available.
The first one is from the old Logos days. I do not think they sell it anymore. Being an “only KJV” guy, I feel this one is the closest to what people think of as the KJV. But, it does not offer an interlinear or display option.
The Holy Bible: King James Version. electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version. ed. Bellingham WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1995
Therefore, I study with the second option.
The Holy Bible: King James Version. Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. ed. Bellingham, WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009
In comparing texts using the Text Comparison took, I did not care for the third option. Just my opinion.
The Cambridge Paragraph Bible: of the Authorized English Version. Cambridge : Cambridge University Press, 1873
Therefore, I study with the 1900 version, but copy and paste the 1769 version into my sermons. It would be nice if Logos would add the interlinear and display options on the 1769 version,
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:
So which church council or pope has George upset this time with his comments about interlinears?
No church council or pope. I simply think interlinears are counterproductive and therefore an abomination. When you have the English right under your nose, you aren't really reading the Greek/Hebrew, you are reading the English. Let's not pretend otherwise.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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dcleghorn said:
Being an “only KJV” guy
Well, Foghorn Leghorn, I don't wish to get into any controversy, but I would appreciate it if you could explain why you are an "only KJV" guy. There must be some rationale.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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David ... see below. Maybe you did have a KJV named KJV. But Libronix had an Authorized Version (KJV as listed above). It included both an inline and interlinear view of Strongs. The L5 version doesn't, so effectively they removed some of your functionality. I'm guessing since you have the older silver package but didn't buy the L4 'crossgrade', you're missing what you paid for. There's some missing fairness, but the crossgrade is very much worth it for your use of Logos5. There's also a L5 crossgrade, but it's not as critical.
The L4 crossgrade includes interlinears with Strongs for both the KJV and Cambridge versions (plus much more).
https://www.logos.com/product/28576/logos-4-minimal-crossgrade
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.KJV that comes in the L4 'crossgrade':
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."If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Thanks, Denise. This helps. I've ended up working with the tech support people, and they have upgraded me to their Tier 2 Support - I feel so special. ;-)
I consider this thread closed. And folks debating the value of KJV or interlinears, etc., please take your debates elsewhere. This treat was not created for that. And the Logos Forum conduct guidelines clearly state that they don't want their forums used for that in any case.
Thanks to all who tried to help!
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