I would like Logos to offer Bart Ehrman's stuff. A computer crash had me reading hard copies over the last week or so, and I just finished God's Problem. Highly quotable...would love to be able to cut-and-paste rather than have to type it all out.
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I would like Logos to offer Bart Ehrman's stuff.
I like fairy tales….[6]
Not a bad idea, but I wonder whether it might almost as well be offered in Verso. I don't think there is much more that scripture linking (Verso does link to scripture passages, doesn't it?).
I would like Logos to offer Bart Ehrman's stuff. I like fairy tales….
I like fairy tales….
Ehrman is a fairly decent text critic. The problem is that he always puts the worst construction on everything.
I like Bart Ehrman..
I remembered D.A. Carson referring him as the guy on Matthew 18:6-7 on one of his lectures.
I also like Bart. His book on second century manuscripts is good. Apostolic Fathers. Gnosticism. Currently reading his Gospel of Jude book, which I missed earlier.
I think he has fun pulling Christianity's toes with comparative ease, and watching them squeal.
I was sharing beers with an Ehrman fan before Christmas and explaining how Ehrman was taking on water from the atheistic side. They're livid. Ehrman just won't sit still so everyone can get the right label glued on.
I can understand Logos not selling Ehrman, but it'd be nice to at least have apologetics equal to his points. I always argue with my Ehrman friend, that he has a lengthy list of future books in mind, since he never really brings out the heavy duty weaknesses in Christianity.
Ah - so you don't like Ehrman 'cause he lacks the cultural and psychological depth of a "fairy tale"[:(]
I got to meet him at New Orleans Baptist Seminary's Greer-Heard lectures. He was actually in dialogue with Craig Evans, but Evans really didn't disagree. When Ben Witherington got up to speak and Ehrman questioned him, sparks were flying, and Ehrman was visibly upset. He is a great speaker, even if he over states his case from time to time.
A great Greer-Heard lecture that I only have on audio (I did not attend) was with Dan Wallace and Bart Ehrman on the text of the New Testament. I have listened to that one over and over, and it is fascinating. They are both great speakers.
I also got to hear Ehrman and Evans, but this was in Kansas City several years ago and I agree that Ehrman is a very good speaker. Although I don't agree with his conclusions, If Logos offered his books in Logos or Vyrso I would grab them in a heartbeat.
A great Greer-Heard lecture that I only have on audio (I did not attend) was with Dan Wallace and Bart Ehrman on the text of the New Testament.
Are you referring to this one?
Bump.
Ehrman Collection please.
Bump. Ehrman Collection please.
For such a smart man, it is fascinating that his conclusions are rather dumb. I'd like to see his books in Logos, but not in Vysro - his books are not "Christian".
his books are not "Christian".
Nor does Ehrman claim they are. However, please remember that the forums are not the place to declare who is or is not Christian ... or dumb. Is's priest might be a forum member.
Bump. Ehrman Collection please. For such a smart man, it is fascinating that his conclusions are rather dumb. I'd like to see his books in Logos, but not in Vysro - his books are not "Christian".
Ehrman doesn't really say anything different from what your run-of-the-mill text critic would say—he's simply more provocative about it. Most text critics, e.g., will admit that some manuscripts were altered from their exemplars for theological reasons, but Ehrman choses to call it "misquoting Jesus." Admittedly Ehrman has a rather non-Christian view of scripture, but you might also if you discovered that those in whom you had placed your confidence that they were directing you in the right path had been dishonest with you. Saying "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" won't solve your problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZR64EF3OpA
Ehrman choses to call it "misquoting Jesus."
Perhaps I have a bit more sympathy for Ehrman because of my experience: a biology professor teaching that certain chemicals could not be made in the lab - chemicals necessary for the chemical stew for evolution; unfortunately, I made said chemicals in honors chemistry the same quarter. If you have to lie to support your beliefs, I've been taught that something is wrong. My Daddy taught me that much before I started school.
his books are not "Christian". Nor does Ehrman claim they are. However, please remember that the forums are not the place to declare who is or is not Christian ... or dumb. Is's priest might be a forum member.
I never called Ehman dumb - the man is quite intelligent. I called some of his professional conclusions dumb (perhaps a better word would be "laughable" [:O]). Have you watched the debate he had with Dan Wallace? Bart has set the bar for evidence so high, even Dan was shocked!
Also, I see no problem with stating that his work is not Christian. It simply isn't. Vysro is for "Christian ebooks" - do you think Ehman's most recent books fit this category?
