OT: The Reformed View of the Ordo Salutis

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  • Jim VanSchoonhoven
    Jim VanSchoonhoven Member Posts: 579 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/66329#Comment_66329

    Does this passage have any implications for this subject, it almost makes it looks like in order to experience God's grace, faith was there first. 

         1     Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

         2     through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.



    New American Standard Bible : 1995 Update (LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995), Ro 5:1-2.


    Also if we forget about chapter markings back just a few verses in Chapter 4 it says:


    16     For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all,



    New American Standard Bible : 1995 Update (LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995), Ro 4:16.


    And latter on in Romans 12 we do see God say this about faith:



    3     For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.



    New American Standard Bible : 1995 Update (LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995), Ro 12:3.


    Anyway, I am wondering if these verse have implications concerning this question.


    In Christ,


    Jim






  • Bryan Brodess
    Bryan Brodess Member Posts: 198 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/66322#Comment_66322

    Blair Laird said:

    Sorry I caught your other post first. For anyone wishing to further discuss reformed theology you are welcome to join my forum. I will close here as this forum is not designed here for this.

    http://debate.divinesoteriology.com/  Feel free to post your response in my forum, it is designed for debate

    I started a thread here

    http://debate.divinesoteriology.com/User/Discussion.aspx?id=213001&p=-1&fps=1&anchor=a1181860

     

    Hope we can continue the discussion..

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