E-ink device for Logos App Android
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for sharing that, that does not sound like a very attractive option. I'm guessing you are Vandevsr on the digital-reader forum and the one who shared about the Folder Mount option as well. You mentioned there that your device is not stock and that you did some other things that might affect boot performance.
I am trying to weigh up whether it's worth it to try to root the device (I'm not succesful so far, tried Towelroot and Framaroot) and try out Foldermount or whether I'll just leave it because it's highly probable it won't be satisfactory anyway. If you have any thoughts on that I'd appreciate it!
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Daniel M said:
Here is a link to a video review of the T68 that I just made showing the performance of the Kindle and Logos Bible apps. It's the first time I've made a video like this so it's not perfect but it hopefully gives an impresson.
thanks for the video! I think this is what we have been waiting for. Are things like notes and highlights syncing ok?
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You're welcome. Yes, highlights are syncing all right, didn't make any notes yet, but as it's the same principle I'm sure they do.
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Hi Steve,
I tried the Folder Mount option but that didn't work very well. I now want to try swapping, I'm hoping if I don't download as much it might work a bit better.
I was wondering do I first need to copy data from the internal SD to Extsd? Does the Extsd need to be completely empty? How does that work?
Thanks for your help!
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In my case to prepare to swap sdcards I restored to factory settings first. It was like starting all over, but root access remained, and my physical button swaps remained. When it restored it was running Polski, and I had to go by memory to change the language back to English. After the restore, the SDcard was empty. That's when I started installing the apps I wanted. Running Onyx's factory restore helped me get rid of all my earlier experiments. It just takes more work, and lots of re-downloading. On the other hand, I think it's simple enough to plug in to your computer and copy the data off the cards. Then after re-configuring vold.fstab and rebooting, you can plug in your computer and rewrite the data to the correct card(s).
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I've had my new Onyx Boox T68 for a couple of days now, and I am quite impressed overall. It's one weakness, relative to how we might want to use it for Logos, is that it isn't designed to work speedily with an external SD card. I don't know if it's a firmware or a hardware limitation, but it's there. The external card is meant for more eBooks, and the T68 handles that well enough. But it reads the external card far too slowly for use with Logos.
Having said that, I still think it's the best E-Ink solution out there for Logos users. The internal SD card has 2.27 GB of usable space. I don't need my whole Logos library on my T68. I chose the resources I use most for homily prep and other research, and books I intend to read. That came to 265 resources, and used up a little over 1 gig of space. Perfect.
Interestingly enough, the Logos Android app (or Verbum) works better on E-Ink than some other reading apps, like Kindle, in that there is a minimum of text jumble as you turn a page (compare it to the Kindle app and you'll see what I mean). Text is very clear, as the resolution is the same as the Aura HD. Lighting is also very good. Highlighting seems to work well. A passage guide takes about the same time it takes on a Nexus 7, depending on how my wifi is doing at the moment! In fact, Logos is probably the best eReader I've yet used on the T68!
You can also install apps like Instapaper or Pocket. The Kindle app works fine. The quick start guide is limited, so it takes some exploring to learn how to optimize your fonts and display settings. But it's worth it.
I'll probably be looking to sell (or give away) my Aura HD. This is a better solution than that SD card install of Gingerbread was. The T68 is a good eReader, too. I installed Moon Reader Pro, which makes it even better.
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Oh, about Folder Mount. I save my internal sd card for Logos, but I am using Folder Mount for other stuff. It works fine with Kindle, for example. Move other data to the external sd and just keep internal for Logos. Seems to work fine.
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Thanks Steve, I swapped the SD cards using the easy option, just copying data off both cards and then after doing the vold.fstab exercise copied the data to the right cards. That worked all right. But after having switched and trying for 2 days I got so annoyed by the slow performance of the whole device that I reversed the swap.
I'm happy I tried so that I don't keep wondering whether it's worth it...
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It would be nice to be able to use the hardware back and forward buttons in the Logos app. Is there a way to make that work?
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Simon said:
It would be nice to be able to use the hardware back and forward buttons in the Logos app. Is there a way to make that work?
I'd like to know this, too. The hardware buttons do work with iBreviary and Divine Office, as well as the built-in reading apps. Still, I think Logos/Verbum looks very good on the T68. Page-turning doesn't produce that moment of jumbled text you see on the Kindle app, for example. A little tweaking could be done on the color scheme in other parts of the Logos/Verbum app (or have some color options built-in for background and pop-ups) to enhance it for E-Ink. But, overall, I'm pleased.
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I'm hoping that the logos folks will invest in this technology perhaps by improving their tablet app to work well with epaper devices. I'm considering some NICNT and OT resources, but don't want to purchase until I know I can use an epaper device for comfortable reading.
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FWIW, I have been a Logos user since the 1990's, and have owned a number of devices over the years. The T68 is, hands down, the most comfortable way to read Logos resources. You may have to tap the side of the page twice, or swipe twice, every now and then to turn a page, but that's about the only drawback. The text is very clear. You can adjust the backlight level, or turn it off completely. Some people find even the lowest light setting a little too bright, but it seems to work in Logos. In fact, in my opinion, Logos resources look better on the T68 than some eBooks on the T68's own eReader.
The T68 itself is new and has a few odd rough edges, but those are seen mainly on other apps. I'd expect that an update will smooth out those edges. Still, I've been looking for a more comfortable way to read Logos resources, and this is the best way yet.
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Good to hear that Mark. Thanks for the help!
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BTW, What app do you use? I don't have any android devices, but I was looking around at Google Play at the Logos apps, and there's a number of them. From that, I couldn't tell which one would be most ideal for reading on an epaper device.
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Frank H said:
BTW, What app do you use? I don't have any android devices, but I was looking around at Google Play at the Logos apps, and there's a number of them. From that, I couldn't tell which one would be most ideal for reading on an epaper device.
The Bible app is the one that corresponds to Logos Bible Software in general. I use the Verbum app, which is basically the Bible app with a few free resources for Catholics. Basically the same in function. You should be fine with Bible. I haven't tried the others, though if you are just looking to read resources, Vyrso may also work well on E-Ink.
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Hi
I read about the Boox M96. It is a device with a big screen 9,7', an open android 4.0 system and google play store. Has anyone of you tried to install the logos app on this device?
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Here is another 4.x e-ink coming down the pike.
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Pastor Mike said:
Here is another 4.x e-ink coming down the pike.
Unfortunately, it appears that it doesn't have the google play store on it. So far it seems the best option is the Onyx Boox T68 still. It is usable, but leaves a little to be desired in terms of quality. I really hope that we see more "open" android epaper ereaders out there.
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The Icarus is Android 4.2.2, so this is the first e-ink reader to support Hebrew fonts in Logos, I believe.
You can always install Logos using the APK install method until Google Play is supported.
Here's an interesting video comparison of the T68 and the Icarus Illumina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slzy3p13LFU&list=UUNvW5N_t9Umw8-KVBsNxFaw
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If anyone is interested I have a T68 in like new condition that I am looking to sell and would be willing to exchange for $140 in logos credit. It has the case that boox made for it as well. I got it for logos and it worked as others have noted but I am trying to simplify my workflow and pay off my logos account..
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http://youtu.be/9BW3mNcFq5g
