E-ink device for Logos App Android
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Hi Pavel, I've got Windows 7 and my pc doesn't recognize the internal nor the external storage, but I should say that I have the same problem with my Nexus 7. My solution for that is using ES File Explorer which enables a WLAN connection, which is perfect for copying files from the PC to the device.
I also noticed some ghost image every now and then in the Bible app, but when you flick back and forth one more time it disappears.
As you say, the device isn't perfect but just like you I am very satisfied with it!
Here is some feedback regarding other apps:
- I tried to install Quickoffice, Google's office suit, but that didn't work for some reason, I might try another office suit some other time.
- I installed the Accountable2You app which works fine.
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Thanks Pavel. I'm very tempted. What's the battery life like? Nothing like a Kindle, I'm sure. How easy is it to power the device off completely to avoid any power draw. How long does it take to restart when completely switched off?
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Hi Mark,
It is very easy to completely power off the device, just hold the power button for 2 seconds and tap shut down button that pops up. To start it back up it takes about 40 seconds.
I've been using the device for 2 days with the front light mostly OFF, WIFI mostly ON and the battery is still on 75%. It is interesting, it seems that the WIFI is switched off when it goes to sleep mode (default after 3 minutes), did you find that as well Pavel? Depending on whether you have WIFI on or use the frontlight my guess is the battery might last about a week. But that's only a guess.
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Thanks Daniel for tip - copying e-books to SD Card from PC with ES File explorer (via WiFi) is much easier.
As for WiFi it goes automatically OFF while device is in sleep mode. I think it is for saving energy (if I forgot Wifi ON on my Kindle 3 life span of battery was greatly reduced)
I use T68 extensively many hours a Day, WiFi ON but with front light mostly OFF. After 2 days I was low on battery and have to charge it. Hoping for much better duration of battery while on "normal" using...
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Found out that working with stylus (from iPad - the one with rubber tip) is better then with fingers [;)]
Just FYI: stylus form Onyx M92 won't work on T68
https://onyx-boox.com/support/?ticket=761&accesskey=DFmVWUufUGRD0 -
Couple of interesting tips for T68 from John B:
http://the-digital-reader.com/2014/06/13/onyx-boox-t68-arrived/#comment-522718
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That Swapps app looks like a great tip, having to go back to the apps screen is a bit annoying.
Thanks Pavel!
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I have got to like Swapps too [;)]
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Interesting comment concerning running LOGOS app from extSD card:
http://the-digital-reader.com/2014/06/13/onyx-boox-t68-arrived/#comment-525294
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Indeed, and here are instructions to root... http://the-digital-reader.com/2014/06/13/onyx-boox-t68-arrived/#comment-525756
That's quite quick. Not sure if I want to try myself yet. In the other comment it sounded like FolderMount doesn't seem to work very well...
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And some more instructions in German, but easy to follow through Google translate.
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Thanks for link Daniel.
But I hesitate to root T68 too - because of reportedly extremely long time of external SD card mounting.0 -
I have a setup on my Kobo Aura HD where Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) is installed on an SD card, and I then run it off the card. I am interested in your experiences with the Onyx Boox T68. The Aura HD and the T68 have very similar specs and the same size screen. I don't have the external SD card problem, since everything is simply partitions of the one SD card I use (which is 32 GB). Logos runs pretty well for me overall. Sometimes it takes two or three taps to turn a page, but that seems to happen with the T68, too. I don't have that ten minute wait, though, with that setup to use the external SD card. Most apps I want to use are compatible with Gingerbread. I think there's only one or two that no longer support Gingerbread. As long as Logos supports Gingerbread, I'm okay.
I see that the T68 is available on Amazon (USA) for $199. If that external SD card problem can be fixed, I could be tempted. Since the T68 runs Ice Cream Sandwich, app compatibility should be better. And, since it runs Android natively, I don't need a root setup to run Logos like I do for the Kobo. The Kobo is a nice device, but I don't care much for the Kobo bookstore.
I'm interested to see how the T68 holds up over time. Initial reports are encouraging overall. I've seen the Earl website, but that's more expensive since it has a number of capabilities that a typical e-Reader wouldn't need. I just think that E-Ink is the ideal medium for the Logos app, because it is basically about text!
Thank you for sharing your T68 experiences.
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Here is a link to a video review of the T68 that I just made showing the performance of the Kindle and Logos Bible apps. It's the first time I've made a video like this so it's not perfect but it hopefully gives an impresson.
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Great video Daniel! Very helpful IMHO for everyone here who has questions concerning T68 & LOGOS app.
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Thanks a lot. Very helpful, and decent performance!
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Yes, Daniel, thanks for that video. It was very helpful. The T68 does well, from what I see.
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Thanks Daniel. Great video review. Seeing that the T68 runs Logos so smoothly I just ordered one. Seems like the perfect device for reading Logos books!
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Very interesting thread about possibility to swap internal and external SD card on T68 - so external SD Card works instead of internal:
http://the-digital-reader.com/2014/06/13/onyx-boox-t68-arrived/#comment-527859
I am curious about boot time - autor does not post this info yet...
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So, after swapping, external and internal SD, and with about 5GB of Logos Bible resources and 8GB total on my class10 SDCard I have to wait 15 minutes for the SDCard to become available.
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for sharing that, that does not sound like a very attractive option. I'm guessing you are Vandevsr on the digital-reader forum and the one who shared about the Folder Mount option as well. You mentioned there that your device is not stock and that you did some other things that might affect boot performance.
I am trying to weigh up whether it's worth it to try to root the device (I'm not succesful so far, tried Towelroot and Framaroot) and try out Foldermount or whether I'll just leave it because it's highly probable it won't be satisfactory anyway. If you have any thoughts on that I'd appreciate it!
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Here is a link to a video review of the T68 that I just made showing the performance of the Kindle and Logos Bible apps. It's the first time I've made a video like this so it's not perfect but it hopefully gives an impresson.
thanks for the video! I think this is what we have been waiting for. Are things like notes and highlights syncing ok?
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You're welcome. Yes, highlights are syncing all right, didn't make any notes yet, but as it's the same principle I'm sure they do.
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Hi Steve,
I tried the Folder Mount option but that didn't work very well. I now want to try swapping, I'm hoping if I don't download as much it might work a bit better.
I was wondering do I first need to copy data from the internal SD to Extsd? Does the Extsd need to be completely empty? How does that work?
Thanks for your help!
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In my case to prepare to swap sdcards I restored to factory settings first. It was like starting all over, but root access remained, and my physical button swaps remained. When it restored it was running Polski, and I had to go by memory to change the language back to English. After the restore, the SDcard was empty. That's when I started installing the apps I wanted. Running Onyx's factory restore helped me get rid of all my earlier experiments. It just takes more work, and lots of re-downloading. On the other hand, I think it's simple enough to plug in to your computer and copy the data off the cards. Then after re-configuring vold.fstab and rebooting, you can plug in your computer and rewrite the data to the correct card(s).
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I've had my new Onyx Boox T68 for a couple of days now, and I am quite impressed overall. It's one weakness, relative to how we might want to use it for Logos, is that it isn't designed to work speedily with an external SD card. I don't know if it's a firmware or a hardware limitation, but it's there. The external card is meant for more eBooks, and the T68 handles that well enough. But it reads the external card far too slowly for use with Logos.
Having said that, I still think it's the best E-Ink solution out there for Logos users. The internal SD card has 2.27 GB of usable space. I don't need my whole Logos library on my T68. I chose the resources I use most for homily prep and other research, and books I intend to read. That came to 265 resources, and used up a little over 1 gig of space. Perfect.
Interestingly enough, the Logos Android app (or Verbum) works better on E-Ink than some other reading apps, like Kindle, in that there is a minimum of text jumble as you turn a page (compare it to the Kindle app and you'll see what I mean). Text is very clear, as the resolution is the same as the Aura HD. Lighting is also very good. Highlighting seems to work well. A passage guide takes about the same time it takes on a Nexus 7, depending on how my wifi is doing at the moment! In fact, Logos is probably the best eReader I've yet used on the T68!
You can also install apps like Instapaper or Pocket. The Kindle app works fine. The quick start guide is limited, so it takes some exploring to learn how to optimize your fonts and display settings. But it's worth it.
I'll probably be looking to sell (or give away) my Aura HD. This is a better solution than that SD card install of Gingerbread was. The T68 is a good eReader, too. I installed Moon Reader Pro, which makes it even better.
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Oh, about Folder Mount. I save my internal sd card for Logos, but I am using Folder Mount for other stuff. It works fine with Kindle, for example. Move other data to the external sd and just keep internal for Logos. Seems to work fine.
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Thanks Steve, I swapped the SD cards using the easy option, just copying data off both cards and then after doing the vold.fstab exercise copied the data to the right cards. That worked all right. But after having switched and trying for 2 days I got so annoyed by the slow performance of the whole device that I reversed the swap.
I'm happy I tried so that I don't keep wondering whether it's worth it...
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It would be nice to be able to use the hardware back and forward buttons in the Logos app. Is there a way to make that work?
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It would be nice to be able to use the hardware back and forward buttons in the Logos app. Is there a way to make that work?
I'd like to know this, too. The hardware buttons do work with iBreviary and Divine Office, as well as the built-in reading apps. Still, I think Logos/Verbum looks very good on the T68. Page-turning doesn't produce that moment of jumbled text you see on the Kindle app, for example. A little tweaking could be done on the color scheme in other parts of the Logos/Verbum app (or have some color options built-in for background and pop-ups) to enhance it for E-Ink. But, overall, I'm pleased.
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http://youtu.be/9BW3mNcFq5g
