Tips & Tricks
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Robert Pavich said:
When I do that it changes colors completely...red, green, yellow, blue...
Are you turning the scroll wheel while you're still holding down the mouse button, that is, while you are still in the process of drawing the line?
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No I wasn't but I just did and nothing happened...
Robert Pavich
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Robert Pavich said:
If you have a resource open, click the circled "I" on the right side and it instantly gives you all of the info about that resource including it's searchable fields!
I'm not convinced "I" tells the whole story, esp. when you compare fields available from the resource in v3 (Help | About this Resource | Search Capabilities).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave,
by gosh..you are right....check out the screen shot...
Robert Pavich
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With reference to type:Bible and similar used in collection searches ... is there any way to see the types that a particular resource responds to?
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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MartinFolley said:
With reference to type:Bible and similar used in collection searches ... is there any way to see the types that a particular resource responds to?
Agreed this is needed. I have found Anchor Bible Dictionary does not repsond to type:dictionary
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I realize that this is a Logos feature but there are freeware utilities that do this; Sketch it! being one of them.
Robert Pavich
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MartinFolley said:
With reference to type:Bible and similar used in collection searches ... is there any way to see the types that a particular resource responds to?
Yes. If you open My Library or your collections and change the View to see all the fields, you can right click and add additional fields such as "subject" and "type" These will give you the fields you can enter for subject: and type: Hope that helps. It seems like most of the fields can be used to filter collections as well, so you could create collections like publisher:Intervarsity Press or publisher:logos. I can't get Publication Date to work, but maybe I'm doing it wrong.
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What I miss, although if locked resources are not going to be included in Logos 4 I guess it's irrelevant, is the index that is included in About This Resource in Logos 3. That was helpful to me in deciding whether or not to purchase a locked resource.
Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.
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David B Phillips said:
Also, you remain in drawing mode even if you alt+tab to different resources. This is a very cool feature! Note: to exit drawing mode, you must alt+tab back to logos 4.0 and then press escape. The screen will still appear to be in the other program, but pressing escape will then return you to 4.0. If you do not alt+tab back first, pressing escape will not do anything.
Good catch!
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Dave Hooton said:Robert Pavich said:
If you have a resource open, click the circled "I" on the right side and it instantly gives you all of the info about that resource including it's searchable fields!
I'm not convinced "I" tells the whole story, esp. when you compare fields available from the resource in v3 (Help | About this Resource | Search Capabilities).
I was also concerned about the lack of info in the new "About Resource".
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AndrewMckenzie said:
I was also concerned about the lack of info in the new "About Resource".
What would you like to see?
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Bob Pritchett said:AndrewMckenzie said:
I was also concerned about the lack of info in the new "About Resource".
What would you like to see?
Bob, the screen shot posted earlier by Rober P. showing the difference between Logos 3 and 4 for BDAG is what is raising our concerns. It maybe that this information is not available now that we don't have keylinks but I would assume there is still underlying datatypes that are revlevant to setting up prefered resources (I am yet to figure out that new system) and so knowing what datatypes are underlying a resource I think are still relevant. Also things like file location are not there - mabye not relevant at this stage of the beta but would be good to see in final release when we have control over resources location. I appreciate the goal to keep it simple and that is a good thing. Mabye, for want of a better description and advanced view button or setting to show the power user extra the information, assuming its still there in the system.
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Bob Pritchett said:
What would you like to see?
I miss seeing the TOC. I liked the fact that it was selectable from there.
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David B Phillips said:MartinFolley said:
With reference to type:Bible and similar used in collection searches ... is there any way to see the types that a particular resource responds to?
Yes. If you open My Library or your collections and change the View to see all the fields, you can right click and add additional fields such as "subject" and "type" These will give you the fields you can enter for subject: and type: Hope that helps. It seems like most of the fields can be used to filter collections as well, so you could create collections like publisher:Intervarsity Press or publisher:logos. I can't get Publication Date to work, but maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Thanks for the tip David I hadn't worked that one out. I found only 1 or 2 resources showing information for either publicaiton or electronic publication date. Series looks promising but has a lot of 'guff' in the field for resources that aren't part of a specific series. Subject likewise which I missing only seems to have 1 or 2 resources with useful information.
Another tip with this is drag either Author or series into the first column position and sort on that column. Because of the guff I mentioned earlier you get a better result with author.
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From the screen shot you can see there is stil the issue of different books being published with slight variations on author name but being able to sort by author goes a long way in solving the issues that presents and for my needs that is a good solution, as I'd prefer the information to be consistent with what is in the world at large.
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Robert Pavich said:
Another nice feature!
When you drag windows around in a layout; they turn blue according to their size and position...when you get the right size and placement, you just "let go"
Very nice.
For another tip on using SHIFT + Drag and CTRL + Drag to arrange windows see:
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/918/7811.aspx#7811
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Resizing columns
If you have four vertical columns that are unevenly spaced and want to make them equal width , Layouts->Vertical. Even though the image shows three columns, it will leave you with four equal width columns.
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David B Phillips said:
Yes. If you open My Library or your collections and change the View to see all the fields, you can right click and add additional fields such as "subject" and "type" These will give you the fields you can enter for subject: and type...:
I too found this tip very helpful. While testing it I found the Cairo Fragments typed as "Bible." I would love a separate type for these resources of "Bible Fragement." They really fluff up the translation lists and are rarely used, at least by me.
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Philip Spitzer said:David B Phillips said:
Yes. If you open My Library or your collections and change the View to see all the fields, you can right click and add additional fields such as "subject" and "type" These will give you the fields you can enter for subject: and type...:
I too found this tip very helpful. While testing it I found the Cairo Fragments typed as "Bible." I would love a separate type for these resources of "Bible Fragement." They really fluff up the translation lists and are rarely used, at least by me.
Would like this also but I think there is only a slightly greater chance of this than there is of getting the full resource versions of interlinears included back in 4.0
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Philip Spitzer said:
I too found this tip very helpful. While testing it I found the Cairo Fragments typed as "Bible." I would love a separate type for these resources of "Bible Fragement." They really fluff up the translation lists and are rarely used, at least by me.
That would be nice, but you can accomplish that pretty simply:
type: Bible -title:fragment
or
type:Bible -title:fragment -subject:manuscript
The second will also exclude all the Greek papyri.
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Not really tip or trick but useful to note anyway, the three circles in the visual pane bar are coloured according to the number of items you have selected. For example I only have 1 visual filter on two circles are white and 1 is coloured.
Small but helpful at a glance information. What might be helpful is if each colour is representative of a particular filter. At present I can only seem to get it to white out the bottom left circle for one resource not on and the bottom right for two resources off.
Jason
How to ask for help for Logos issues.
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I just discovered that the reference box (Navigation box) is much more helpful than in 3.0!
In 3.0, if you were reading Romans 8 in the NIV and wanted to jump to Romans 10, you would have to type "Romans 10" into the box. In 4.0, you simply have to type "10." Or if you want to specify a verse, "10:3" etc. It assumes you are in the same place unless you specify otherwise. This is a great feature for quickly jumping around.
EDIT -- Actually, if you're in Romans 8 and you type in "10", it will take you to 8:10. It's even more precise. To switch chapters you do need to type 10:1 or 10.1.
For some reason if you are in chapter 1 of a book and you type "2" (or any other number) into the ref box, it will take you to chapter 2 (or whatever chapter number you chose). But if you are in any other chapter, the number typed into the reference box will take you to the verse of that chapter.
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David B Phillips said:
For some reason if you are in chapter 1 of a book and you type "2" (or any other number) into the ref box, it will take you to chapter 2 (or whatever chapter number you chose). But if you are in any other chapter, the number typed into the reference box will take you to the verse of that chapter.
When I'm in chapter 1 of Romans, Genesis, 1 Peter, etc. and type "2" or another number, it goes to the verse: Romans 1:2, Genesis 1:2, 1 Peter 1:2. As soon as I type the number in the reference box the drop-down says Go to: Romans 1:2. I wonder what we're doing differently?
Melissa
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Melissa,
Well, I don't know how this all works, but here's what I'm finding. If I Ctrl+G to Gen 1 --- Acts 1 and then Ctrl+G and type "2", it will take me to Gen 1:2 -- Acts 1:2.
Starting in Romans - 2 Peter, if I Ctrl+G to Rom 1 then Ctrl+G 2, I go to Rom 2 --- 2 Pet 2
I didn't check every book, but Revelation works like the first set. Ctrl+G Rev 1 Ctrl+G 2 --> Rev 1:2.
Further, if I scroll around in the book first, and then manually scroll back to Rom 1, then pressing Ctrl+G, 2 takes me to Rom 1:2.
Ok. I think I have found the reason for all this! If you open a Bible (or at least the NIV) and type Ctrl+G, Rom 1, the reference box displays "Romans 1" without a colon and verse number. From this spot, Ctrl+G followed by any number will take you to the chapter. However, not all books work lilke this. For some reason if you type Ctrl+G, Gen 1, the reference box displays "Genesis 1:1-31" not "Genesis 1". Once the colon and verse numbers are displayed, pressing Ctrl+G, then entering a number, will take you to the verse. So it all has to do with how the passage is displayed in the reference box, whether it is displayed with or without the colon and verse numbers.
I hope that makes sense. It's kind of difficult to type about
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That's what drove me nuts with V3....the PG displays whole pericopes instead of the chosen passage
Robert Pavich
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