Church of Christ Library for Logos Bible Software

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594861#Comment_594861

"The clouds roll with thunder, that the house of the Lord shall be built throughout the earth; and these frogs sit in their marsh and croak ‘We are the only Christians!’" Augustine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594861#Comment_594861

One baby step I'd like to see would be a "Classic Early Restoration Movement Works" package that brought together in Logos format some of the more significant writings of early Restoration Movement leaders from the first half of the 1800s.

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594862#Comment_594862

"The clouds roll with thunder, that the house of the Lord shall be built throughout the earth; and these frogs sit in their marsh and croak ‘We are the only Christians!’" Augustine

Were they green frogs, or brown frogs?

Silent Sam

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594866#Comment_594866

[^o)] HHHMMMmmm~~~ [^o)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594919#Comment_594919

HHHMMMmmm~~~

LOL I was wondering about this guy the other day. Always silent and sometimes silent is golden. Welcome back buddy!

DAL

Ps. From what I can see, this guy's or chick's last post was back in Friday 03/15/2013. It's been a while [:S]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594926#Comment_594926

That's because we've been good little boys and girls!

Silent Sam only shows up when we've been naughty (or Logic Dog is taking his walk).

I had not considered 'Sam' > Samantha. I'd always thought Sam was Sam.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594930#Comment_594930

That's because we've been good little boys and girls!

Silent Sam only shows up when we've been naughty (or Logic Dog is taking his walk).

I had not considered 'Sam' > Samantha. I'd always thought Sam was Sam.

May it's Samuel who came from the dead to tell us something [:P] [;)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594866#Comment_594866

In your picture are you holding a puppy or is that a paratrooper's rig?

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594955#Comment_594955

2 puppies.

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594956#Comment_594956

Some CoC resources definitely sound like a good plan. I've been attending CoC for two years now for the reason of the great passion and love for Christ there. So it would be good now to get some background knowledge on the theology. I don't think I'd be able to contribute to the canon of the base package, but will be interested to purchase once it's done.

Even more, I'd be interested to be able to purchase CoC published books through Vyrso. Some are available on Kindle, but I don't really want to "split" my Christian library between these two systems.

So for Vyrso, please (!!!!) consider the following publishers:

http://www.louiscts.com/
http://ipibooks.com/
http://www.dtmediastore.com/

Ralph Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594926#Comment_594926

HHHMMMmmm~~~

LOL I was wondering about this guy the other day. Always silent and sometimes silent is golden. Welcome back buddy!

[Y]

Alex Vaughn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/594863#Comment_594863

I agree that would be an excellent first step. Two reasonable collections offered by the Gospel Advocate would be their Gospel Advocate Classics collection and their NT Commentary set. I'm not sure how broadly those collections apply to those outside of the CoC to the broader Restoration movement however.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595306#Comment_595306

I'd hope their Classics go back to the 1800s.

Just this morning I was reading that the Gospel Advocate in 1874 began tracking the Huntingdon TN COC as it seemed to get hand-me-down Presbyterian church buildings. (Not now of course.)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595312#Comment_595312

We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.

Bill Shewmaker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595605#Comment_595605

We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.

I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.

Bill Shewmaker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595605#Comment_595605

We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.

I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595610#Comment_595610

We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.

I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.

For a "Classic Early Restoration Movement Works" package I'd love to see both the Harbinger and the Christian Baptist. I'd also like to see Barton Stone's Christian Messenger, the Last Will and Testament of the Springfield Presbytery, and Thomas Campbell's Declaration and Address. There are many other things that could be included (Campbell's Living Oracles, for example), but these would make a very nice start.

Bill Shewmaker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595723#Comment_595723

We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.

I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.

For a "Classic Early Restoration Movement Works" package I'd love to see both the Harbinger and the Christian Baptist. I'd also like to see Barton Stone's Christian Messenger, the Last Will and Testament of the Springfield Presbytery, and Thomas Campbell's Declaration and Address. There are many other things that could be included (Campbell's Living Oracles, for example), but these would make a very nice start.

I would also like to see Earl West's "Search for the Ancient Order" volumes included in the Restoration package.

James C.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595774#Comment_595774

Alexander Campbell's Translation is on Community Pricing with a collection of other old translations.

https://www.logos.com/product/16808/english-bible-collection#017

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595804#Comment_595804

Alexander Campbell's Translation is on Community Pricing with a collection of other old translations.

https://www.logos.com/product/16808/english-bible-collection#017

His book Christian Baptism: With Its Antecedents and Consequents is also on Community Pricing in the "Classic Studies on Baptism."

https://www.logos.com/product/33657/classic-studies-on-baptism#035

Neither of those collections is moving all that quickly, though. I wonder if they're just too big, and if breaking them up might get some of these books moving more quickly.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595610#Comment_595610

The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595835#Comment_595835

The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.

Do we have a link to this Pre-Pub? I would like to order it but I can't find it.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595864#Comment_595864

Has anyone started a thread in the suggestion forum with a list of books for Logos to pursue? I did not see it. Only went back as far as May 15.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595870#Comment_595870

Has anyone started a thread in the suggestion forum with a list of books for Logos to pursue? I did not see it. Only went back as far as May 15.

Here it is: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/84768.aspx

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595873#Comment_595873

Has anyone started a thread in the suggestion forum with a list of books for Logos to pursue? I did not see it. Only went back as far as May 15.

Here it is: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/84768.aspx

Thanks S.T.

Robert Harner

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595864#Comment_595864

The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.

Do we have a link to this Pre-Pub? I would like to order it but I can't find it.

https://www.logos.com/product/42353/christian-history-magazine

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595897#Comment_595897

https://www.logos.com/product/42353/christian-history-magazine

Thank you, Robert. Order placed.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595897#Comment_595897

The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.

Do we have a link to this Pre-Pub? I would like to order it but I can't find it.

https://www.logos.com/product/42353/christian-history-magazine

Wow, thanks!

Having the first 99 issues and liking them very much, this is a must (and at a convenient price, too). Strange how this somehow escaped me.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595933#Comment_595933

The Church of Christ 2 volume set is in the pre-sinner set. It can be purchased individually.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/600661#Comment_600661

I am going to bring this thread back from the dead it would seem [:|]

Having recently upgraded to Logos7, it seemed logical to search for any Restoration Movement materials, something I had also sought out when first starting out with a Libronix package, to no avail.

Seeing that base packages can be purchased with subsets i.e. baptist, catholic, reformed, etc. it seems logical to purse a 'restoration' option with what seems like a plethora of titles, and vast array of written material that 'could' be of benefit to many, particularly, those seeking out the history of the Stone-Campbell movement.

Did this thread gain any traction? Perhaps if the wider community of those affiliated with the churches of Christ, or even loosely associated with restoration history, could find some unity (and I don't mean for anyone to start straining for gnats, whilst we sup on our camel) , a worthwhile effort could be made to have these resources digitized and cataloged in Logos, which surely would be a blessing for many. Certainly, some resources may well be preferred, and others ignored from the set, depending on the readers own preference, bias, history, affiliation, but do we not do that already with any base package?

these are all I found in the products:

The Encyclopedia of the Stone-Campbell Movement

The Stone-Campbell Movement: The Story of the American Restoration Movement, rev. ed.

and I recall reading about the magazine that was part of a larger set.

Anyways, sorry for the very historic thread 'necro', but a search did not reveal anything more up to date, and I (selfishly) hope that significant restoration materials can come to Logos.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933670#Comment_933670

Mid-2014 is not ancient. And recent for unresolved needs.

Given Logos' challenges for support of the larger groups, I doubt another will get far these days. And we're approaching the annual remembering of when they blew up marketing.

It's interesting threads on churches of Christ moves to Stone-Campbell. Which I assume is trying to find sufficient commonality. S/C was verboten in my family. Just illustrating how the 'restoration' groups are heavily fragmented. A few authors sufficiently ok.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933674#Comment_933674

It's interesting threads on churches of Christ moves to Stone-Campbell. Which I assume is trying to find sufficient commonality. S/C was verboten in my family. Just illustrating how the 'restoration' groups are heavily fragmented. A few authors sufficiently ok.

I think the move to "Stone-Campbell" makes sense for a couple of reasons. First, the churches of Christ do come from a particular historical background that pre-dates the split from the Disciples of Christ, and most churches of Christ do claim their heritage with the early Restoration Movement leaders such as Alexander Campbell, Barton Stone, Walter Scott and David Lipscomb, just to name a few. So from that standpoint the writings from that period, and the histories of it, would have real appeal. Second, as you suggest, it does seem to be at least one potential way to broaden the appeal of a library.

In terms of existing materials, I would also mention the books by Everett Ferguson.

Ken Hicks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933698#Comment_933698

Vyrso has several Restoration Movement titles from Leafwood which (if I am not mistaken) is tied to Abilene Christian University. https://vyrso.com/products/search?Publisher=Leafwood

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933702#Comment_933702

It's more of a historical curiosity now than anything else, but Logos does have Cambell's "Living Oracles" translation of the New Testament. As I recall, it was one of the first complete translations of the New Testament to use Greisbach's critical Greek text. My recollection is that it was largely a revision of the work of several British scholars who had recently translated different portions of the New Testament.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933719#Comment_933719

thank you guys for chiming back in again on this one. I figure it seems logical to have a Logos repository of restoration / Stone Campbell / whatever we want to call it data. To be able to have such ready access to it, in such a well cataloged manner, is something I would pay for (as I don't have it in any form currently), but I am a bit OCD and like to have things all in the one place, and as much of it as possible - iTunes by the album, not the song [8-|]

Lots of other things in my library to read in the mean while.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933823#Comment_933823

I have quite a few CoC resources in Logos and also in WS. I like Coffman’s commentaries. Got them for $79 a couple months back in WS. Too bad Logos doesn’t carry them.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933836#Comment_933836

that would be awesome! I would really like that a lot.

What's WS?

I have quite a few CoC resources in Logos and also in WS. I like Coffman’s commentaries. Got them for $79 a couple months back in WS. Too bad Logos doesn’t carry them.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933841#Comment_933841

that would be awesome! I would really like that a lot.

What's WS?

I have quite a few CoC resources in Logos and also in WS. I like Coffman’s commentaries. Got them for $79 a couple months back in WS. Too bad Logos doesn’t carry them.

DAL

WORDSearch Bible software.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933844#Comment_933844

Ohhh...yeah...I think I may have used that years ago - was it available on the palm pilot? Sounds a little bit familiar now.

WORDSearch Bible software.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933848#Comment_933848

Ohhh...yeah...I think I may have used that years ago - was it available on the palm pilot? Sounds a little bit familiar now.

WORDSearch Bible software.

DAL

What’s a palm pilot? 😁 Just kidding! I think they did. They also have the Gospel Advocate commentaries. Not indepth, but practical.

DAL

Felmar Roel Rap. Singco

I am willing to join, thanks.

Gerald

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/933670#Comment_933670

This is of interest to me because I was baptized into the Christian Church at age 12. It wasn't a Disciples of Christ affiliated church, but it did identify with the nearby congregation of Disciples of Christ. We had two lay speakers at my church who attended this nearby church and one of them performed my baptism in the Disciples of Christ baptismal tub. (I was fully immersed.) Currently I am a member and attend a local SBC Baptist Church. I am currently in my mid 50's.

The Church of Christ is strong in my area. I wasn't really aware of the connections between the two churches and how they started. I wasn't aware of the term "Campbellite".

One thing I did note as a young adult after college and getting married was the lack of emphasis of the Holy Spirit in the Christian Church compared to the United Methodist Church my wife and I attended. I don't recall any teaching on the Holy Spirit from the church I was baptized into.

Unfortunately it appears the original thread starter has left Logos Forums. I hope the discourse did not offend him.

In Christ

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934743#Comment_934743

"Form A.D. 33" LOL that's rich [;)]

Keith Pang

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934745#Comment_934745

Man...that guy who started this post originally really needs to know the Lord or get a heart check...so much anger and condemnation on people who don't think like him...like he knows it all...[:@]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934743#Comment_934743

Unfortunately it appears the original thread starter has left Logos Forums. I hope the discourse did not offend him.

I suspect it may have. Looking at his forum activity, it appears that this was pretty much the only topic he posted on, and he hasn't posted anything since September 2014.

Man...that guy who started this post originally really needs to know the Lord or get a heart check...so much anger and condemnation on people who don't think like him...like he knows it all...

I think we can let it go now. He hasn't been part of the forum community for three years now.

Keith Pang

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934755#Comment_934755

I know, I understand what you're saying. That was just what I saw for the first time today since the thread got brought back to life.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934751#Comment_934751

Man...that guy who started this post originally really needs to know the Lord or get a heart check...so much anger and condemnation on people who don't think like him...like he knows it all...

Earlier I wrote a reply about his arrogance that stems from the school of preaching he graduated from. I decided not to post it because I didn’t want to come across as arrogant or condemning myself, but I’m glad I was not the only one who saw right through him. I wrote it in reply to the earlier post about him (the O.P.) no longer being in the conversation.

To illustrate my point:

I went to SOP A (school of preaching A), he went to SOP B and another group just like his group went to SOP C. All these SOP decided to take the students to a weekend long lectureship hosted by a church in the area. I tried to go and mingle with some of the students from SOP B and C and they wouldn’t even talk to me or shake my hand because my SOP wasn’t as good as theirs.

Honestly, I felt disappointed and like if I was in high school trying to be friends with rival gangs. Very weird feeling to say the least. Being a new minister prospect back then, it kind of made me wonder what their motives were for being in a school where they were supposed to be training to help lead others to Christ. They criticize legalistic people, but they are legalis themselves. Sad indeed!

DAL

Keith Pang

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934757#Comment_934757

Earlier I wrote a reply about his arrogance that stems from the school of preaching he graduated from. I decided not to post it because I didn’t want to come across as arrogant or condemning myself, but I’m glad I was not the only one who saw right through him. I wrote it in reply to the earlier post about him (the O.P.) no longer being in the conversation.

To illustrate my point:

I went to SOP A (school of preaching A), he went to SOP B and another group just like his group went to SOP C. All these SOP decided to take the students to a weekend long lectureship hosted by a church in the area. I tried to go and mingle with some of the students from SOP B and C and they wouldn’t even talk to me or shake my hand because my SOP wasn’t as good as theirs.

Honestly, I felt disappointed and like if I was in high school trying to be friends with rival gangs. Very weird feeling to say the least. Being a new minister prospect back then, it kind of made me wonder what their motives were for being in a school where they were supposed to be training to help lead others to Christ. They criticize legalistic people, but they are legalis themselves. Sad indeed!

DAL

Well said DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/934757#Comment_934757

Earlier I wrote a reply about his arrogance that stems from the school of preaching he graduated from...

I want to be very careful here, because schools of preaching have turned out many effective servants for the Lord. I think they're at their best, though, when an already mature Christian wants to turn from a secular career to the ministry. A school of preaching can provide an invaluable crash-course, if you will, to deepen their knowledge of Scripture and prepare them for preaching week in and week out.

My sense is that they are often less effective for the young Christian who is not yet mature. It's an intense environment that often focuses almost exclusively on the views of a particular segment of a denomination, and the sense of really "digging into" doctrine can foster a self-confidence in one's understanding of God's will that simply isn't justified.

From what I've seen, the broader and more rounded education of a Christian college - and perhaps a year or two of working - can provide a better foundation for a young person who wants to go into the full-time ministry.