Church of Christ Library for Logos Bible Software
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"The clouds roll with thunder, that the house of the Lord shall be built throughout the earth; and these frogs sit in their marsh and croak ‘We are the only Christians!’" Augustine
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One baby step I'd like to see would be a "Classic Early Restoration Movement Works" package that brought together in Logos format some of the more significant writings of early Restoration Movement leaders from the first half of the 1800s.
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Were they green frogs, or brown frogs?Gary Butner said:"The clouds roll with thunder, that the house of the Lord shall be built throughout the earth; and these frogs sit in their marsh and croak ‘We are the only Christians!’" Augustine
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[^o)] HHHMMMmmm~~~ [^o)]
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Silent Sam said:
HHHMMMmmm~~~ LOL I was wondering about this guy the other day. Always silent and sometimes silent is golden. Welcome back buddy!
DAL
Ps. From what I can see, this guy's or chick's last post was back in Friday 03/15/2013. It's been a while [:S]
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That's because we've been good little boys and girls!
Silent Sam only shows up when we've been naughty (or Logic Dog is taking his walk).
I had not considered 'Sam' > Samantha. I'd always thought Sam was Sam.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
That's because we've been good little boys and girls!
Silent Sam only shows up when we've been naughty (or Logic Dog is taking his walk).
I had not considered 'Sam' > Samantha. I'd always thought Sam was Sam.
May it's Samuel who came from the dead to tell us something [:P] [;)]
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In your picture are you holding a puppy or is that a paratrooper's rig?
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2 puppies.
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Some CoC resources definitely sound like a good plan. I've been attending CoC for two years now for the reason of the great passion and love for Christ there. So it would be good now to get some background knowledge on the theology. I don't think I'd be able to contribute to the canon of the base package, but will be interested to purchase once it's done.
Even more, I'd be interested to be able to purchase CoC published books through Vyrso. Some are available on Kindle, but I don't really want to "split" my Christian library between these two systems.
So for Vyrso, please (!!!!) consider the following publishers:
http://www.louiscts.com/
http://ipibooks.com/
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[Y]DAL said:Silent Sam said: HHHMMMmmm~~~ LOL I was wondering about this guy the other day. Always silent and sometimes silent is golden. Welcome back buddy!
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I agree that would be an excellent first step. Two reasonable collections offered by the Gospel Advocate would be their Gospel Advocate Classics collection and their NT Commentary set. I'm not sure how broadly those collections apply to those outside of the CoC to the broader Restoration movement however.
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I'd hope their Classics go back to the 1800s.
Just this morning I was reading that the Gospel Advocate in 1874 began tracking the Huntingdon TN COC as it seemed to get hand-me-down Presbyterian church buildings. (Not now of course.)
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.
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Gary Butner said:
We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.
I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.
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Gary Butner said:
We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.
I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.
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Bill Shewmaker said:Gary Butner said:
We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.
I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.
For a "Classic Early Restoration Movement Works" package I'd love to see both the Harbinger and the Christian Baptist. I'd also like to see Barton Stone's Christian Messenger, the Last Will and Testament of the Springfield Presbytery, and Thomas Campbell's Declaration and Address. There are many other things that could be included (Campbell's Living Oracles, for example), but these would make a very nice start.
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EastTN said:Bill Shewmaker said:Gary Butner said:
We have copies of all the Millennial Harbinger in our church library, however I would prefer to see them in a Logos Restoration package.
I have that set in my "hard copy library" along with the Christian Baptist by A. Campbell and I would agree that it would be very nice to have in Logos format.
For a "Classic Early Restoration Movement Works" package I'd love to see both the Harbinger and the Christian Baptist. I'd also like to see Barton Stone's Christian Messenger, the Last Will and Testament of the Springfield Presbytery, and Thomas Campbell's Declaration and Address. There are many other things that could be included (Campbell's Living Oracles, for example), but these would make a very nice start.
I would also like to see Earl West's "Search for the Ancient Order" volumes included in the Restoration package.
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Alexander Campbell's Translation is on Community Pricing with a collection of other old translations.
https://www.logos.com/product/16808/english-bible-collection#017
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James C. said:
Alexander Campbell's Translation is on Community Pricing with a collection of other old translations.
https://www.logos.com/product/16808/english-bible-collection#017
His book Christian Baptism: With Its Antecedents and Consequents is also on Community Pricing in the "Classic Studies on Baptism."
https://www.logos.com/product/33657/classic-studies-on-baptism#035
Neither of those collections is moving all that quickly, though. I wonder if they're just too big, and if breaking them up might get some of these books moving more quickly.
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The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.
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Gary Butner said:
The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.
Do we have a link to this Pre-Pub? I would like to order it but I can't find it.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Has anyone started a thread in the suggestion forum with a list of books for Logos to pursue? I did not see it. Only went back as far as May 15.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Lynden Williams said:
Has anyone started a thread in the suggestion forum with a list of books for Logos to pursue? I did not see it. Only went back as far as May 15.
Here it is: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/84768.aspx
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Super.Tramp said:Lynden Williams said:
Has anyone started a thread in the suggestion forum with a list of books for Logos to pursue? I did not see it. Only went back as far as May 15.
Here it is: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/84768.aspx
Thanks S.T.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Super.Tramp said:Gary Butner said:
The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.
Do we have a link to this Pre-Pub? I would like to order it but I can't find it.
https://www.logos.com/product/42353/christian-history-magazine
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Robert Harner said:Super.Tramp said:Gary Butner said:
The upgrade to Christian History Magazine is on pre-publication, and issue 106 features the Stone-Campbell Movement.
Do we have a link to this Pre-Pub? I would like to order it but I can't find it.
https://www.logos.com/product/42353/christian-history-magazine
Wow, thanks!
Having the first 99 issues and liking them very much, this is a must (and at a convenient price, too). Strange how this somehow escaped me.
Have joy in the Lord!
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The Church of Christ 2 volume set is in the pre-sinner set. It can be purchased individually.0
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I am going to bring this thread back from the dead it would seem [:|]
Having recently upgraded to Logos7, it seemed logical to search for any Restoration Movement materials, something I had also sought out when first starting out with a Libronix package, to no avail.
Seeing that base packages can be purchased with subsets i.e. baptist, catholic, reformed, etc. it seems logical to purse a 'restoration' option with what seems like a plethora of titles, and vast array of written material that 'could' be of benefit to many, particularly, those seeking out the history of the Stone-Campbell movement.
Did this thread gain any traction? Perhaps if the wider community of those affiliated with the churches of Christ, or even loosely associated with restoration history, could find some unity (and I don't mean for anyone to start straining for gnats, whilst we sup on our camel) , a worthwhile effort could be made to have these resources digitized and cataloged in Logos, which surely would be a blessing for many. Certainly, some resources may well be preferred, and others ignored from the set, depending on the readers own preference, bias, history, affiliation, but do we not do that already with any base package?
these are all I found in the products:
The Encyclopedia of the Stone-Campbell Movement
The Stone-Campbell Movement: The Story of the American Restoration Movement, rev. ed.
and I recall reading about the magazine that was part of a larger set.
Anyways, sorry for the very historic thread 'necro', but a search did not reveal anything more up to date, and I (selfishly) hope that significant restoration materials can come to Logos.
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Mid-2014 is not ancient. And recent for unresolved needs.
Given Logos' challenges for support of the larger groups, I doubt another will get far these days. And we're approaching the annual remembering of when they blew up marketing.
It's interesting threads on churches of Christ moves to Stone-Campbell. Which I assume is trying to find sufficient commonality. S/C was verboten in my family. Just illustrating how the 'restoration' groups are heavily fragmented. A few authors sufficiently ok.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
It's interesting threads on churches of Christ moves to Stone-Campbell. Which I assume is trying to find sufficient commonality. S/C was verboten in my family. Just illustrating how the 'restoration' groups are heavily fragmented. A few authors sufficiently ok.
I think the move to "Stone-Campbell" makes sense for a couple of reasons. First, the churches of Christ do come from a particular historical background that pre-dates the split from the Disciples of Christ, and most churches of Christ do claim their heritage with the early Restoration Movement leaders such as Alexander Campbell, Barton Stone, Walter Scott and David Lipscomb, just to name a few. So from that standpoint the writings from that period, and the histories of it, would have real appeal. Second, as you suggest, it does seem to be at least one potential way to broaden the appeal of a library.
In terms of existing materials, I would also mention the books by Everett Ferguson.
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Vyrso has several Restoration Movement titles from Leafwood which (if I am not mistaken) is tied to Abilene Christian University. https://vyrso.com/products/search?Publisher=Leafwood
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It's more of a historical curiosity now than anything else, but Logos does have Cambell's "Living Oracles" translation of the New Testament. As I recall, it was one of the first complete translations of the New Testament to use Greisbach's critical Greek text. My recollection is that it was largely a revision of the work of several British scholars who had recently translated different portions of the New Testament.
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thank you guys for chiming back in again on this one. I figure it seems logical to have a Logos repository of restoration / Stone Campbell / whatever we want to call it data. To be able to have such ready access to it, in such a well cataloged manner, is something I would pay for (as I don't have it in any form currently), but I am a bit OCD and like to have things all in the one place, and as much of it as possible - iTunes by the album, not the song [8-|]
Lots of other things in my library to read in the mean while.
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I have quite a few CoC resources in Logos and also in WS. I like Coffman’s commentaries. Got them for $79 a couple months back in WS. Too bad Logos doesn’t carry them.
DAL
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that would be awesome! I would really like that a lot.
What's WS?
DAL said:I have quite a few CoC resources in Logos and also in WS. I like Coffman’s commentaries. Got them for $79 a couple months back in WS. Too bad Logos doesn’t carry them.
DAL
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Aaron Knotts said:
that would be awesome! I would really like that a lot.
What's WS?
DAL said:I have quite a few CoC resources in Logos and also in WS. I like Coffman’s commentaries. Got them for $79 a couple months back in WS. Too bad Logos doesn’t carry them.
DAL
WORDSearch Bible software.
DAL
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Ohhh...yeah...I think I may have used that years ago - was it available on the palm pilot? Sounds a little bit familiar now.
DAL said:WORDSearch Bible software.
DAL
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Aaron Knotts said:
Ohhh...yeah...I think I may have used that years ago - was it available on the palm pilot? Sounds a little bit familiar now.
DAL said:WORDSearch Bible software.
DAL
What’s a palm pilot? 😁 Just kidding! I think they did. They also have the Gospel Advocate commentaries. Not indepth, but practical.
DAL
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I am willing to join, thanks.
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This is of interest to me because I was baptized into the Christian Church at age 12. It wasn't a Disciples of Christ affiliated church, but it did identify with the nearby congregation of Disciples of Christ. We had two lay speakers at my church who attended this nearby church and one of them performed my baptism in the Disciples of Christ baptismal tub. (I was fully immersed.) Currently I am a member and attend a local SBC Baptist Church. I am currently in my mid 50's.
The Church of Christ is strong in my area. I wasn't really aware of the connections between the two churches and how they started. I wasn't aware of the term "Campbellite".
One thing I did note as a young adult after college and getting married was the lack of emphasis of the Holy Spirit in the Christian Church compared to the United Methodist Church my wife and I attended. I don't recall any teaching on the Holy Spirit from the church I was baptized into.
Unfortunately it appears the original thread starter has left Logos Forums. I hope the discourse did not offend him.
In Christ
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"Form A.D. 33" LOL that's rich [;)]
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Man...that guy who started this post originally really needs to know the Lord or get a heart check...so much anger and condemnation on people who don't think like him...like he knows it all...[:@]
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Gerald said:
Unfortunately it appears the original thread starter has left Logos Forums. I hope the discourse did not offend him.
I suspect it may have. Looking at his forum activity, it appears that this was pretty much the only topic he posted on, and he hasn't posted anything since September 2014.
Keith Pang said:Man...that guy who started this post originally really needs to know the Lord or get a heart check...so much anger and condemnation on people who don't think like him...like he knows it all...
I think we can let it go now. He hasn't been part of the forum community for three years now.
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I know, I understand what you're saying. That was just what I saw for the first time today since the thread got brought back to life.
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Keith Pang said:
Man...that guy who started this post originally really needs to know the Lord or get a heart check...so much anger and condemnation on people who don't think like him...like he knows it all...
Earlier I wrote a reply about his arrogance that stems from the school of preaching he graduated from. I decided not to post it because I didn’t want to come across as arrogant or condemning myself, but I’m glad I was not the only one who saw right through him. I wrote it in reply to the earlier post about him (the O.P.) no longer being in the conversation.
To illustrate my point:
I went to SOP A (school of preaching A), he went to SOP B and another group just like his group went to SOP C. All these SOP decided to take the students to a weekend long lectureship hosted by a church in the area. I tried to go and mingle with some of the students from SOP B and C and they wouldn’t even talk to me or shake my hand because my SOP wasn’t as good as theirs.
Honestly, I felt disappointed and like if I was in high school trying to be friends with rival gangs. Very weird feeling to say the least. Being a new minister prospect back then, it kind of made me wonder what their motives were for being in a school where they were supposed to be training to help lead others to Christ. They criticize legalistic people, but they are legalis themselves. Sad indeed!
DAL
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DAL said:
Earlier I wrote a reply about his arrogance that stems from the school of preaching he graduated from. I decided not to post it because I didn’t want to come across as arrogant or condemning myself, but I’m glad I was not the only one who saw right through him. I wrote it in reply to the earlier post about him (the O.P.) no longer being in the conversation.
To illustrate my point:
I went to SOP A (school of preaching A), he went to SOP B and another group just like his group went to SOP C. All these SOP decided to take the students to a weekend long lectureship hosted by a church in the area. I tried to go and mingle with some of the students from SOP B and C and they wouldn’t even talk to me or shake my hand because my SOP wasn’t as good as theirs.
Honestly, I felt disappointed and like if I was in high school trying to be friends with rival gangs. Very weird feeling to say the least. Being a new minister prospect back then, it kind of made me wonder what their motives were for being in a school where they were supposed to be training to help lead others to Christ. They criticize legalistic people, but they are legalis themselves. Sad indeed!
DAL
Well said DAL
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DAL said:
Earlier I wrote a reply about his arrogance that stems from the school of preaching he graduated from...
I want to be very careful here, because schools of preaching have turned out many effective servants for the Lord. I think they're at their best, though, when an already mature Christian wants to turn from a secular career to the ministry. A school of preaching can provide an invaluable crash-course, if you will, to deepen their knowledge of Scripture and prepare them for preaching week in and week out.
My sense is that they are often less effective for the young Christian who is not yet mature. It's an intense environment that often focuses almost exclusively on the views of a particular segment of a denomination, and the sense of really "digging into" doctrine can foster a self-confidence in one's understanding of God's will that simply isn't justified.
From what I've seen, the broader and more rounded education of a Christian college - and perhaps a year or two of working - can provide a better foundation for a young person who wants to go into the full-time ministry.
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EastTN said:Gerald said:
Unfortunately it appears the original thread starter has left Logos Forums. I hope the discourse did not offend him.
I suspect it may have. Looking at his forum activity, it appears that this was pretty much the only topic he posted on, and he hasn't posted anything since September 2014.
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I think we can let it go now. He hasn't been part of the forum community for three years now.
Yep, we can let it go. And trust me, he didn’t get offended, he left because we don’t think like him and we’re not good enough. The guy didn’t even know how to use “And thus...” in a sentence and now he uses it as part of his every sermon he preaches or discussion he has. It’s the typical “catch phrase” that his particular SOP teaches their students to sound bright 😁 I’m not making fun of them but their school is like a cookie-cutter; you should hear the graduates preach sermons they all sound the same LOL... “ And thus, brethren, I have articulated the truths of the Bible with a plethora of examples that emanate from the holy pages of the sacred record...” 🤪 I know one too many that sound alike, so I got proof 😂👍😁👌
Blessings!
DAL
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