BUG: PG section disappears

fgh
fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

(May require Verbum set to Yes.)

1) Run a Passage Guide.

2) Add a Sermons section.

3) Change the passage and run it again.

>> The Sermons section has disappeared.

Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

Comments

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,191

    Adding a section to an instance of a guide doesn't change the template for that guide. If you want Sermons to be a permanent part of your guide, you need to create a new Guide Template that includes it.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    But what if I don't want it permanently, but do want it for a particular task on a particular day?

    I agree it should disappear when I close the PG or Logos, but it shouldn't disappear in the middle of a session. Once I've added it, I'm more likely than not to want it for the next passage as well. 

    Plus I really thought this was how it used to work (not that I use the PG very often).

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    fgh said:

    Plus I really thought this was how it used to work

    No. It was always a one-time showing. So add it to the template and close the section when finished.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,539

    I just ran a test. First I created:

    1. PG Joshua 1:1-9 removed all the Bible Facts sections
    2. PG Joshua 1:10-18 no changes
    3. PG Joshua 2:1-7 added sermons, thematic outlines, theme

    Second, I closed all the PG's.

    Third, I opened them again

    1. PG Joshua 1:1-9 opened with sections still removed
    2. PG Joshua 1:10-18 not saved; recreated
    3. PG Joshua 2:1-7 opened with sections still added

    Fourth, I refreshed each of them at the Guide level - I usually refresh at the section level in real use. Refresh Guide runs updates even on closed sections so the time involved is annoying.: There is no change in the sections included in the PGs.

    This is why one "expects" a section to remain when changing the passage. What is not obvious without reflection it that Logos treats the changing of the passage as a "new" passage list.

    Fifth, close PG Joshua 1:1-9 and 2:1-7. Then change Joshua 1:10-18 to Joshua 1:1-9 - it will open with the sections still removed i.e. open the saved PG without comment. Then change Joshua 1:1-9 to Joshua 2:8-24. One does NOT get the overlap warning which I got on all PG's when created them but one does get the standard PG template i.e. the customization is lost.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    MJ. Smith said:

    I just ran a test. First I created:

    1. PG Joshua 1:1-9 removed all the Bible Facts sections
    2. PG Joshua 1:10-18 no changes
    3. PG Joshua 2:1-7 added sermons, thematic outlines, theme

    Too confusing. Did you open 3 separate tabs? Do they all have the same template?

    The original discussion is concerned about the durability of an additional (Add) section in a PG after another passage is entered.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,539

    Did you open 3 separate tabs? Do they all have the same template?

    Yes and Yes.

    The original discussion is concerned about the durability of an additional (Add) section in a PG after another passage is entered.

    Specifically addressed as to why fgh has her memory and why Logos behavior is predictable but not obvious.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."