Compendium of Christian Theology on Community Pricing
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Bob Pritchett said:
The information is embedded in the graph, though without the specifics. The 100% line represents the production costs, and the curve with points reflects the actual revenue generated if we sold the book at that price. So if you see that both $10 and $20 are at exactly 50%, you know that there are exactly twice as many $10 bids as $20.
Bob, This is confusing. If there are enough bids at $10 to cover half the production costs and also enough bids at $20 to cover half, what about those people who bid more than 20? Shouldn't they be counted in the number who are willing to pay 20 or 10, even though they bid more? You'd reach production cost sooner if you counted on the fact that all people who bid more than X would be willing to pay X. Suppose your production costs are $1000. If 5 people bid 100, and 5 bid 80, and 5 bid 60, and 5 bid 50, even though none of those prices has enough bids to go ahead with production, you've actually got 20 people willing to pay at least 50, which gives you the needed $1000 to go ahead with it at $50. Is my logic flawed? Does your chart actually show this or does it only show the number of bids at each price?
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The higher bidders are included.
So in the $10 / $20 scenario - let's say there are 50 people who have bid $20 or above - that's $1000 (at the $20 level)
So now let's assume that an additional 50 people have bid only up to $10. In total that is 100 people who will pay $10 (or more) to get the title published. - but because it's only the $10 level it only totals $1000.
In Bob's example he says this was 50% of the cost so in order for that book to rollk over into pre-pub stage there needs to be another 50 people bidding $20 or more - or another 100 people bidding $10 or more.
Scripture set to music for worship and aid memorization. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-DojPa0TlpCGhtUJq1e3Pw
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PS. That's why you're encouraged to bid your top dollar price you're willing to pay. In the above scenario if you are one of those extra 50 people who bids $20 or more to put the book into production then even if you bid $100 you will still get it for $20. It may be that you sooooo want this resource you would be prepared to pay the $100 but then I don't doubt you'd be very pleased to get it for $20.
Or even less if the book hits 100% and all the people who bid $10 raise their bids so they don't miss out. Those extra $20 bids will actually drive the CP price down to $13.33 because there are now 150 people sharing the production cost of $2000.
Scripture set to music for worship and aid memorization. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-DojPa0TlpCGhtUJq1e3Pw
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So enough talk - go bid already :]
Scripture set to music for worship and aid memorization. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-DojPa0TlpCGhtUJq1e3Pw
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Kevin Becker said:
but it seems to lack that extra something to hold user interest.
How about if your CP bid put you in to a draw to get the title for free [:)]
Scripture set to music for worship and aid memorization. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-DojPa0TlpCGhtUJq1e3Pw
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Jeremy White said:
How about if your CP bid put you in to a draw to get the title for free
This actually crossed my mind.... I think it's a good idea.
Prov. 15:23
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Kevin Becker said:Jeremy White said:
How about if your CP bid put you in to a draw to get the title for free
This actually crossed my mind.... I think it's a good idea.
+1 [Y] Now that would get more people bidding! Great idea!
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All it would take is an announcement on the blog and some promotion on the boards. I don't doubt that it would mean a lot of people would just bid the minimum so that could have an entry but not expecting that it would actually be enough to purchase the title.But at least they become more aware of what's available and may decide to up their bids for resources they are actually interested in.
But then again, if enough people pledge a little that turns into quite a lot. According to the forum stats there are 14,000 users on these boards and it's a reasonable assumption to think that this constitutes a core group of a much larger user base. But even if all those 14,000 people all made a $2 bid on something that's $28,000. I don't how much Logos needs before they hit the production button (I know it's dependant on the complexity / number of pages, etc of the title) but surely that's enough for one or two pages. And considering what people spend on coffee and other such stuff - 2 bucks is a bargain for a few more resources in your library, even ones that you may not refer to much.
The only other thing lacking in the equation for most people is having a wider range of titles to bid on. Currently there on 7 titles available on that page - I would love to see a lot more listed. I'm sure it's not for lack of suggestions from the board.
Scripture set to music for worship and aid memorization. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-DojPa0TlpCGhtUJq1e3Pw
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Compendium of Christian Theology - 3 Volumes has been gaining some traction lately! Approaching the 90% mark. Check out the resource at http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/5664 if you haven't placed a bid yet or want to up it. It's currently at it's peak at $10.
Jason Saling
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Jason Saling said:
Compendium of Christian Theology - 3 Volumes has been gaining some traction lately! Approaching the 90% mark. Check out the resource at http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/5664 if you haven't placed a bid yet or want to up it. It's currently at it's peak at $10.
I have been in this resource for a while now. I just had something really weird happen though.
I guess I signed up to get this thread in email. When this posting came to my inbox....I clicked on the link and got a1600 dollar sears riding mower. Is this just strange or what. I clicked on the main posting and it was correctly linked to the forums and that link in the message went to the correct CP page.
William
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William Bingham said:
....I clicked on the link and got a1600 dollar sears riding mower.
That is really bizarre! How did you get such a deal? I can't reproduce that -- the one I'm getting is $2500. [;)]
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Rosie Perera said:
That is really bizarre! How did you get such a deal? I can't reproduce that -- the one I'm getting is $2500.
Ok, so are you funning me? [:D] I am not kidding about this link. [:O] I am getting this page below. I wander if God is trying to tell us something? [:P] I would have no idea what that is though. I have some vegetables planted and other than that....My home is xeriscaped. I think the city is paying new homeowners to not plant grass in fact....
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William Bingham said:Rosie Perera said:
That is really bizarre! How did you get such a deal? I can't reproduce that -- the one I'm getting is $2500.
Ok, so are you funning me?
No, I do believe you that you got that weird link. I have no idea how it happened. When something surreal happens in real life, sometimes my only possible response is to be silly. Sorry, my joke wasn't directed at you but at the bizarre situtation you found yourself in.
So you clicked on a link in an email that came from Logos and it took you to a page with that tractor ad?
Can you provide a screenshot of the section of the email where the link is?
Also, if right-click on the link and select Copy Hyperlink (or whatever similar/equivalent command you find on that popup menu; it will depend on what version of Windows you have; or are you on a Mac?) and paste the result here.
Finally, rightclick somewhere else in the email (not on a link) and select View Source, save that text file, zip it, and attach it here.It would be interesting to get to the bottom of this, especially if it was really Logos's fault that they sent this strange link out to you.
UPDATE: I've signed up to get email when someone replies to this thread too, to see if I can reproduce the problem.
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William Bingham said:
Hmm... Maybe Logos can help us figure this out. Here are some possibly relevant quotes (I searched for mow NEAR grass):
"If there be any one who bears about in his person two instruments of lasciviousness, he has it in his power, to be sure, to mow down 'the grass' of the unclean flesh, and to reserve for himself only that which shall see the salvation of God." (Tertullian, On the Resurrection of the Flesh, Chapter LIX)
"Pull off that scabbard. Fling that fine sheath to Hades, and then see how, in the Lord’s hands, that glorious two-handed sword will mow down fields of men as mowers level the grass with their scythes." (C.H. Spurgeon, Sermon No. 2047 "No Compromise" from Sermons: Volume 34)
On the other hand, maybe you shouldn't buy that mower: "If the way were a fine turf, cut every morning with a lawn mower and made as soft as velvet, I am afraid we should never get to heaven at all, for we should linger too long on the road." (Spurgeon, from Barbed Arrows from the Quiver of C.H. Spurgeon, p. 245)
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Rosie Perera said:
UPDATE: I've signed up to get email when someone replies to this thread too, to see if I can reproduce the problem.
Nope. I got the email after I posted my next message, and clicked on the link to this thread, and it came here.
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In my original email received of the first post, there is a Sears.com link in it, clear as day. When I come to the web site and view, it's a logos.com link. Very weird!
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Dominick Sela said:
In my original email received of the first post, there is a Sears.com link in it, clear as day. When I come to the web site and view, it's a logos.com link. Very weird!
Yes, this is exactly what I am seeing. I will put a pasting of the screen capture from the email with this sears.com link......but coming to the website.....its correct ....link that is...
it is typed correctly on Logos site....when sent. out the link is being altered somehow...
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William Bingham said:
I have been in this resource for a while now. I just had something really weird happen though.
I guess I signed up to get this thread in email. When this posting came to my inbox....I clicked on the link and got a1600 dollar sears riding mower. Is this just strange or what. I clicked on the main posting and it was correctly linked to the forums and that link in the message went to the correct CP page.
the message just prior to yours had the word "Traction" - could some e-mail supplier be responding to key words by setting them to related advertising links?
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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William Bingham said:
That is totally freaky.
Floyd Johnson said:the message just prior to yours had the word "Traction" - could some e-mail supplier be responding to key words by setting them to related advertising links?
Traction ~ tractor? Perhaps... I've seen weirder things. I've gotten spam email advertising some book on mysticism within moments after posting a comment on someone's Facebook status about mysticism. Could have been a coincidence, but I suspect not. It came from an email address with smresearch in it. That stands for social media research which is a whole new realm of marketing through social media.
But if an advertiser can go in and edit your emails and replace a legitimate link with a link to their website, that is so wrong!
I would seriously save that email and contact Logos about it. This should not be happening in their forum emails. Maybe they don't have control over it, though. Maybe it's happening on some server somewhere en route.
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I would have no idea what that is though. I have some vegetables planted and other than that....My home is xeriscaped. I think the city is paying new homeowners to not plant grass in fact....
