Lexicon vs. Dictionary & visibility in information tool

Derek Browning

Hi All,

I see TLOT and TLNT as resources that I may be interested in, but had a few questions.

1) Does anyone have working experience with them, and could you provide some general feedback (helpful, good edition to a library, etc.?)

2) What, if any, difference is there between a dictionary and a lexicon?

3) Would TLOT and TLNT show up in the information tool when I click on a word while reading scripture? If so, would that be a good thing?

4) How do they rank/differ from the BDAG/HALOT bundle?

Thanks in advance for all the feedback.

Derek

Ben

Strictly speaking a lexicon is for two languages (e.g. Hebrew-English) whereas a dictionary gives the definitions in the same language as the headword (e.g. Hebrew words with the definitions in Hebrew.) 

But few people recognize that distinction. 

TLOT is deeper but not as broad as HALOT; the latter deals with every single word inc. hapax legomena, whereas TLOT only deals with common and significant words. I would take it as a supplement to HALOT, not as your primary lexicon. 

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/623561#Comment_623561

From wikipedia:

"Formally, in linguistics, a lexicon is a language's inventory of lexemes. ... The lexicon is also thought to include bound morphemes, which cannot stand alone as words (such as most affixes). In some analyses, compound words and certain classes of idiomatic expressions and other collocations are also considered to be part of the lexicon. Dictionaries represent attempts at listing, in alphabetical order, the lexicon of a given language; usually, however, bound morphemes are not included."

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

Derek Browning said:

3) Would TLOT and TLNT show up in the information tool when I click on a word while reading scripture? If so, would that be a good thing?

Lemma definitions in Information come from highest prioritized resource.  Power Lookup shows more lexicon and dictionary entries.

Ben said:

TLOT is deeper but not as broad as HALOT

Lemma בְּרִית has much longer entry in TLOT than HALOT (most of HALOT entry appears in screen shot while less than 25 % of TLOT is shown):

Lemma θρησκεία has complete TLNT and BDAG entries in screen shot with about half of TDNT:

Keep Smiling [:)]

Mark Barnes

Derek Browning said:

How do they rank/differ from the BDAG/HALOT bundle?

TLOT and TLNT are closer to NIDNTT/TDNT than BDAG/HALOT. In other words you get essay on each word, not just definitions. They're far less comprehensive that TDNT (they don't cover every word by any means). The scholarship (particularly of TLNT) is high quality, sometimes brilliant, sometimes very idiosyncratic.

In terms of the difference between an ordinary lexicon and a theological lexicon, this quote from the review of TLNT in JETS sums it up well, I think: "Like TDNT, NIDNTT and (to a certain extent) EDNT, it purports to discuss the meaning of certain Greek words found in the NT while often instead either discussing theological concepts that are sometimes contextually related to those words or, at best, discussing the theological significance of passages containing those words."