Knox and BibleMesh Language course
Has anyone had any experience with the Knox/BibleMesh language courses in Greek or Hebrew?
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I have. I just finished BibleMesh Greek I. What would you like to know?
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James C. said:
I have. I just finished BibleMesh Greek I. What would you like to know?
[:)] James,
Who's coursework does it revolve around? (i.e., Mounce, Black, etc. if any)
Have you had much Greek before?
How did you feel about the pace?
Was it engaging and interactive as implied?
Was it a very visual experience? (I'm thinking along the lines of Randall Buth's Living Biblical Greek and His use of images to enhance learning)
Is the coursework communicated through online reading, offline reading or video lectures...or all the above? (percentages?)
Do you feel like the coursework was communicated well?
What would you says typifies the focus of the coursework? (Grammar, Morphology or Reading Comprehension, etc.)
If you had any problems grasping an area, were you able to quickly get help?
Do you feel like the assessments of your progress reflected real weaknesses and strengths? (Did those interactive assessments actual contribute to your success by strengthening the weaker areas of your learning process?)
Is there interaction with other student?
Did you feel like your week to week retention of the coursework and vocabulary were strengthen as the course progressed? (or were some concepts covered briefly or passed over since they may be covered in greater detail in the next level of coursework, i.e., Greek II)
How many hours outside of the course do think are need to to bolster what you learn within the class sessions?
Do you have the ability to read and comprehend some simple Bible passages in Greek?
Did you take the course through Knox or directly from BibleMesh?
Does the cost seem to equal the quality? (i.e., since it's relatively new is it buggy)
What do you consider to be the biggest strength of the course?
What do you consider to be the biggest weakness of the course?
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I appreciate your opinion and I understand some of the answers can be subjective.
I may have a few follow up questions if you feel you have the time.
Thanks very much[:D].
In Christ Jesus,
Anthony H
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1. The course doesn't rely on or use any books. All the grammar is discussed as part of each of the lessons. There is also a library of articles and videos that you have access to if you desire to dig a bit deeper.
2. I have taken some Greek in the past but this course takes you from knowing nothing to being able to read the first three chapters of John's gospel.
3. Knox has a pacing guide and the course runs for 4 months. I thought it was a bit fast. I think it would have been better to extend it about 2 more months (6 months). But others might not think this pace is too fast.
4. Yes it was engaging and interactive. They used text, videos, as well as iKnow which is a program to help you learn vocabulary. They had native Greek speakers read the text (I had prior Greek training with the Erasmian pronunciation so I just turned down the volume so I wouldn't get confused). They also have you type in Greek.
5. It did not have any pictures so in that sense it was not visual.
6. All the work is done online. You log in and have readings and videos to go through. You have a quiz for every verse. Then mini tests every unit (every few verses). Then you take a midterm and a final exam. 100% online.
7. Yes, the course work was communicated well.
8. The course is aimed at reading the biblical text but it certainly has grammar and vocab as an emphasis as well. It's really a good combination of all these areas.
9. There aren't any online helps that I know of that will help you understand the lessons or a particular piece of grammar other than the videos and readings (And the library of videos and readings). This isn't really a problem because they do a good job of explaining things and walking you through each lesson. Each lesson builds on the other. If you have a tech problem there is help.
10. Yes I feel that my weaknesses were strengthened.
11. No other students. This is all on your own. If I knew of someone else taking it at the same time I could have tried to contact them and see if they wanted to work together but nothing official.
12. The lessons actually repeat the same information every so often. Every lesson in grammar is repeated three times as you work through the course.
13. If you only do the online work every day you will learn a good amount but if you grab your Greek NT and read at other times throughout the day that only helps. That's what I did. I also worked on the grammar, ect. I would recommend at least 2 hours a day outside the online work.
14. Yes, you actually read through the gospel of John. The first three chapters that is. So that means you can go to 1 John and read a fair chunk of that letter as well.
15. I took it through Knox.
16. The cost for me was the same as any 3 credit course through Knox. It had a few glitches here and there but not many and nothing all that problematic.
17. The great thing about the course is it gets you reading the bible from just about day one (you have to take the immersion course that deals with the alphabet).
18. The fact that it's self paced. If you don't get up and get into the lessons every day you will fall behind and it will be hard to catch up if you take if for credit through Knox.
I hope this has been helpful. If you want to ask any follow up questions go right ahead. Also the course is unlocked for a year so you can go back over the lessons as much as you like once completed. I like that.
Here are the pacing guides for these classes that Knox gives out.
Greek I
https://docs.google.com/a/knoxseminary.edu/file/d/0B4DiiDE0bXMrbXlCbXVGMEZsVEE/edit
Greek II
https://docs.google.com/a/knoxseminary.edu/file/d/0B4DiiDE0bXMrWVNBVk5sdy1ZTDQ/edit
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Here are a few screen shots to help.
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Thanks James, this has been extremely helpful. [Y][:D]
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Glad I could help.
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Over a year later and you are still helping people. James, I found the questions from Anthony and your responses invaluable. A heartfelt thanks!
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