Old notes and markup from Logos 3
None of the notes which I wrote on 3 and none of the extensive visual markup I used has been transferred to 4. That seriously limits my ability to use Logos 4 regularly in this test phase. Or am I doing something wrong?
I'm also assuming that all notes I use on version 4 will be lost once this test version is terminated ...
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I can't imagine every moving to Logos 4 if notes and highlighting won't be imported with nearly complete integrity. We have YEARS worth of study notes, cross references, and highlighting do these resources. PLEASE PLEASE give this serious attention. I would think it would be huge loss of credibitily to the company to not be able to promise that their users past years of work will not be lost.
I would think it would be huge loss of credibitily to the company to not be able to promise that their users past years of work will not be lost.
I personally have zero interest in importing notes. I have none of significant value and the few i do have can be cut and pasted. That being said I think WynLaidig is right. Not giving serious attention to the importing of people's labor with each upgrade casts doubt on the reliability of Logos as a trustworthy investment in the future. Even though I have not used notes in the past, mainly because of some of their shortcomings, I would be hesitant to use the more advanced notes features in 4.0 in the fear that 10 years from now they would not be able to move with me.
Philip and Joe, you are right. I would never buy another Microsoft Word product if they did not allow my hard work to be compatible with their future versions. I think Logos needs to at least provide a "compatibility mode" for Logos 4 that allows everything in L3 to be retained in L4. It is possible. The question is...will Logos spend the money to do it?
As Philip Spitzer said, I do not use the Logos notes features in version 3. However I do use the markups with some degree of simplicity. It won't kill me if those aren't imported but the notes. Egad if my decade+ of Bible notes were suddenly inaccessible I'd see that as a monstrous problem. So for those in your situation I cannot conceive of not being able to import or use them.I can't imagine every moving to Logos 4 if notes and highlighting won't be imported with nearly complete integrity. We have YEARS worth of study notes, cross references, and highlighting do these resources. PLEASE PLEASE give this serious attention. I would think it would be huge loss of credibitily to the company to not be able to promise that their users past years of work will not be lost.
Note import is a definite requirement.
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It would definitely be a huge loss of credibility and also,cast some doubt about what else am I investing time and money in today not working in future updates.I can't imagine every moving to Logos 4 if notes and highlighting won't be imported with nearly complete integrity. We have YEARS worth of study notes, cross references, and highlighting do these resources. PLEASE PLEASE give this serious attention. I would think it would be huge loss of credibitily to the company to not be able to promise that their users past years of work will not be lost.
Lets remember everyone this is only the first beta. Lets wait and see what is down the road.
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Lets remember everyone this is only the first beta. Lets wait and see what is down the road.
good to always keep in mind, but the impression has been given by Phil G and Bob that they are considering not making an import utility or function available at all. We are simply trying to greatly persuade them away from that course.
Correct; you should not count on anything you put into 4.0 during the beta surving the beta phase. (We'll keep the data working if we can, but please don't count on that with a beta -- we need the flexibility to change file formats, etc. if necessary before shipping.)
We do not have a 3.0 notes import at this time, either. If we implement a 3.0 notes import, there will be some problems -- we're using a different rich-text engine, so some formatting would be lost of messed up. Also, many books are being re-built for 4.0, which would prevent some (but not all) highlighting from lining up in the newer resources.
We're open to your feedback on how much you want the important/can live with the imperfections.
For me I can live with import as text only.. but appreciate a lot of folks wont be able to..
I was hoping for a html based notes in v4 so I could add pictures into the note file again, but as you are using rtf will give this up as a lost cause..
if you could add a export notes to plain text file in beta, we could at least save what we had put in, and the its a copy/paste back in should note format change...
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Bob,
I'm not a computer expert so could I just clarify something: are you saying that when the new, finished Logos 4 will be downloaded for general users, they will lose a lot of their markup? This would be impossible for me to bear and I simply wouldn't download Logos 4 as a result. Not only is my Logos 3 shot through with multiple important notes and highlighting, I've invested a lot of time in developing my own mark up for a poetic analysis of the psalms and have spent hours applying this to various Hebrew Psalms. I don't have the time to repeat all that.
not only do I share the others concersn about notes, which are very important for me (I'm writing a doctorate and have put a lot of notes on Logos 3) but I want to emphasise my real concern about markup. I have to do poetic analysis of Hebrew, and have developed my own complex markup system for this, investing days into shaping up my Psalms. If that were lost I simply would refuse to update Logos and buy anything new. Could you please say something about this?
Thanks.
I spent months creating Visual Markup Palettes / Styles
I spent months marking up my by Bible.
I will be totally disappointed if this cannot be preserved.
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I have a major interest in importing my notes files. I have quite a few and I do not wish to have to recreate them. I guess I can copy and paste.