Upcoming Resource Update : 1/12/2010
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Just got the download, but it didn't include these items (which are all still in my pre-pub basket). Do I need to do something different to get them? Have they actually shipped already?
Jayson Bradley said:- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 1
- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 2
- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 3
- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 4
- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 5
- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 6
- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 7
- History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin, Vol. 8
- Judaism and the Origins of Christianity
- New Testament Background Commentary: A New Dictionary of Words, Phrases and Situations in Bible Order
- Walk Deuteronomy!
- Walk Exodus!
- Walk Genesis!
- Walk Numbers!
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Your mileage may vary, but you may want to consider doing a "Merge Index" after the download comes down. I got 88 files and 1.13 GB, and the Supplemental Index was large. Maybe it's not large enough to force a merge (is that 25% of index size?), but my experience has been that even with a small supplemental index I get 2 sets of results on a search.
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Jayson Bradley said:
I just wanted to give you all a heads up regarding a resource update that is coming this evening.
Thank you Jayson.
This news is really appreciated.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dominick Sela said:
Your mileage may vary, but you may want to consider doing a "Merge Index" after the download comes down. I got 88 files and 1.13 GB, and the Supplemental Index was large. Maybe it's not large enough to force a merge (is that 25% of index size?), but my experience has been that even with a small supplemental index I get 2 sets of results on a search.
Bradley Grainger explains that New Resources duplicates results in a Basic Search:
[quote]Only when "Library Results" sorts By Book, in which case the
supplemental index results are merged in to the main display. (Ideally,
the New Resources section would be hidden in that case, but it
currently doesn't hide/show itself depending on the Library Results
view setting.) If you always search By Book, permanently collapse the
New Resources section, because you don't need it.But
[quote]If you're searching the main Library index by rank, New Resources need
to be displayed in a different section. If sorting by resource (the "By
Book" sort, or a Bible Search, which always groups hits by resource),
the results can be merged without problem.So, if you want to avoid the confusion it would indeed be better to merge indexes. If you only search by book then permanantly collapse the New Resources section.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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What date should all these resources show in my files in explorer please?
e.g. I have amongst many others ESV inter-linears but the "modified" dates shown are all some time ago. Does this mean they have not updated or is this date not significant.
I have updated today to SR 3 and clicked the icon to download updates. The system also went through an indexing cycle.
Apart from this I am not having any problems with L4 and the recent updates.
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Dave Hooton said:
[quote]If you're searching the main Library index by rank, New Resources need to be displayed in a different section. If sorting by resource (the "By Book" sort, or a Bible Search, which always groups hits by resource), the results can be merged without problem.
Yep that's me, I love to search by Rank. It seems so much more intuitive, as the book I am looking for is almost always Rank #1, sorted alphabetically down the list if I have only typed in the appropriate keyword or two that will distinguish the book. Of course I have to then click to get sort by rank, then slide the slider up to the top to see it. I sure hope this is made easier in the future, or AT LEAST the preference to sort by Rank and have the slider bar at the top is maintained if I click to use it that way!
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Jayson - with the L4A9 Version - the Program Settings Option displays a window that says that the feature has not yet been finished - so how is it exactly that we can disable the auto-update feature? Am I missing something obvious?
Thanks for your help,
-Mike
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I see 3 french bibles in this list that I would love to have.
Nouvelle Loius Segond, Oecumenique, and Langue Courant...Is there any chance that you will ever sell these outside of the Stuttgartt collection?
There is only 1 (released in 1910) French bible currently available by itself. I don't know how much business you do in Canada, Europe, or Africa, but it would seem the market for a few French bibles (maybe even an interlinear) would be large enough, especially since they're already digitized. Single or packaged would be better than nothing. I would have put this in the French section of the forum, if one existed. Admins feel free to move my post.
I work for a Bible Translation organization who could definately use these resources in Africa.
Thanks in Advance. ~Matthew
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Jayson, please make this a "sticky" post so it can be readily found.
Thanks,
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Thank you very much for posting this list. Can you tell me, what is the proceedure if some of these resourses do not come up in a search by title in the library? I have Scholars Platinum. And I did restart before I started looking for individual titles. Thanks again.
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PastorAmeliaAShivers said:
Thank you very much for posting this list. Can you tell me, what is the proceedure if some of these resourses do not come up in a search by title in the library? I have Scholars Platinum. And I did restart before I started looking for individual titles. Thanks again.
These are updated resources. Not new ones. You should only get updated versions of what you already have a license for.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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I downloaded the update this morning (1.1 gig for me) but indexing is taking forever. Before church this evening I had aprox 1 hr and 37 min left of indexing. Three hours later it says that I have 26 hours to go. How can this be? Anyone else having problems indexing?
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thanks - was assuming some of them were in that package, but they aren't. Thanks again.
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Jason,
Why do I have to go looking for this kind of update information on a website...why can't it be available readily from within the program's standard interface, like it used to be in v3? A step backward in my opinion.
John Bengtson
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I totally agree with John Bengtson. Information should be displayed within the progarm or via e-mail.
Also I have the feeling new resources have been added. I have Scholars and after the update I have an additional five resources. One is the NT backgound that became live today after being pre-pub, but what are the other four new resources. It's next to impossible to make that out reading the exntesive list at the beginning of this thread. New resourecs are nice but they're even nicer if I know what they are.
Andreas Holmberg
Pastor in Stockholm, Church of Sweden
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Andreas Holmberg said:
I totally agree with John Bengtson. Information should be displayed within the program or via e-mail.
Also I have the feeling new resources have been added. I have Scholars and after the update I have an additional five resources. One is the NT background that became live today after being pre-pub, but what are the other four new resources. It's next to impossible to make that out reading the extensive list at the beginning of this thread. New resources are nice but they're even nicer if I know what they are.
Andreas Holmberg
In the short term, go to your Resources folder, order it my date, and you will see the most recent resources added new or modified. Now in this update you may have 80-90 new ones. Anyway, if you still have Logos 3, you can open there by filename and see what they are.
Now that certainly is non-trivial and not user friendly to be sure; in the longer term, Bob has suggested that under the Library, there will be a column added called "Last Updated" and then you can see the latest updates right in your Library view! So be patient...
Bob's quote here and discussion of this issue - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/9325/74332.aspx#74332
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OK, but that gives me information after the fact. Not useful if I want to know whether suffering through an extended download is worthwhile to me vs. deferring it. With v3 you can make an informed decision.
In any case I'm not using v4 regularly yet because (unbelievably) it still can't import all my notes from v3. That's an absolute bedrock critical function for me, as I use Logos first thing in the morning for my daily Bible reading/study. If I'd known notes transfer wasn't yet available, I certainly wouldn't have been an early purchaser.
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JohnBengtson said:
In any case I'm not using v4 regularly yet because (unbelievably) it still can't import all my notes from v3. That's an absolute bedrock critical function for me, as I use Logos first thing in the morning for my daily Bible reading/study. If I'd known notes transfer wasn't yet available, I certainly wouldn't have been an early purchaser.
Note importation is in Beta testing right now. So when 4.0b goes gold you will get all your Libronix notes. Or, if you want to Beta test you can get them right now.
Prov. 15:23
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JohnBengtson said:
Jason,
Why do I have to go looking for this kind of update information on a website...why can't it be available readily from within the program's standard interface, like it used to be in v3? A step backward in my opinion.
Libronix wasn't consistently friendly about resource updates. You would get some via Libronix Update where the information was in its dialog box. Then came a Resource Update script with the same interface, but we initially (v1?, v2, and early v3) had to use tailored FTP programs to get all the updates! A lot of update info came via the Newsgroup!
It wasn't "available readily from within the program's standard interface" but it is a good suggestion for L4.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Hmmm...when I say "Tools" / "Libronix Update" in v3, I get a list of what it proposes to download. That's "readily available...standard interface" in my book.
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JohnBengtson said:
"Tools" / "Libronix Update" in v3, I get a list of what it proposes to download
That is true, John.
BUT in addition to "Libronix Update" there were another 3 update scripts as well that were not as easy to access. Once you had them they were easy to use. But they were hard to find as they were not available from within Libronix 3. As one who complained loudly (and with much frustration) I do thank Logos for truly trying to simplify this process.
Richard (and David Hooten) have a list of them that they often copy into Forum Posts for confused Libronix 3 installers. The "data Files" and "Add-ins" were not that big a deal once you had them in, But it was the last one 'Resources" that was often missed. These were newer rebuilt or newly added resource files from the ftp site. It often took Logos a great deal of time (if ever) to get these into the Libronix Update which mainly seemed to upgrade the Logos "engine' rather than the newer resources.
Regards
Steve
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JohnBengtson said:
Hmmm...when I say "Tools" / "Libronix Update" in v3, I get a list of what it proposes to download. That's "readily available...standard interface" in my book.
I want people to know that L3's approach to resource updates was never totally integrated. But it is a model that many people would like for to have for downloads in L4.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Steve -- excellent explanation, thanks. I've been using what came easily in v3, and didn't know there were other components left un-updated unless I went to extra effort. Thanks again.
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JohnBengtson said:
Thanks again.
You are very welcome John.
Whatever our struggles etc with the new Logos 4, I do want to "praise" the many wonderful things Libronix 3 did.
But this particular muli-faceted way of making sure things were up to date did give me some "issues."
Regards
Steve
Regards, SteveF
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Thank you so much for the information. It's helpful to know what is being updated. Hope you'll continue to do these kind of posts in the future.
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