How to back up notes, visual filters, etc?
Does anyone know how to back up notes, visual visual filters, etc? I accidentally deleted the wrong note (right-clicked on the wrong note (containing a fair number of notes) and selected "Delete") and then found that there was no way to undo it. Ctrl+Z doesn't restore the deleted note. There is no warning, no confirm, etc. Just bang - notes gone.
Any help will be appreciated.
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StuartRobertson said:
Does anyone know how to back up notes, visual visual filters, etc? I accidentally deleted the wrong note (right-clicked on the wrong note (containing a fair number of notes) and selected "Delete") and then found that there was no way to undo it. Ctrl+Z doesn't restore the deleted note. There is no warning, no confirm, etc. Just bang - notes gone.
Any help will be appreciated.
The Undo functionality should be there.. Which version of L4 are you using?
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I'm running L4 beta 3 (the latest beta)
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I'd still dearly love to know how to back up (and restore) notes, etc. to an external USB drive. The more time I invest in notes, etc. inside L4, the less I feel like losing them...
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I'd second that request. It's nice that the files are on Logos' servers, but it would be good for the user to be able to make a copy of user files. The posts I have read advocate backing up a complete installation and this results in a huge backup. Is there not a way to backup user files only?
Along with that there would be the question of how we can restore user files only as well. I know it is possible since after all when we imported L3 user content into L4, this is what was effectively done. But how to do it with L4 content I am not sure of. Does anyone know how to do this (I am not asking about alternatives)?
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Francis said:
I'd second that request. It's nice that the files are on Logos' servers, but it would be good for the user to be able to make a copy of user files. The posts I have read advocate backing up a complete installation and this results in a huge backup. Is there not a way to backup user files only?
Along with that there would be the question of how we can restore user files only as well. I know it is possible since after all when we imported L3 user content into L4, this is what was effectively done. But how to do it with L4 content I am not sure of. Does anyone know how to do this (I am not asking about alternatives)?
There is an Export feature for Notes currently in beta testing. At present it only exports to other file formats which cannot be imported back in again (RTF/Word, text, HTML, XPS). At least that'll be a way to ensure you've got a copy of your data somewhere. But it's not a true backup/restore feature.
However...there have been rumors that Logos is planning in a future release to add the ability to share user files with others. This would necessitate being able to export and read them back in again. So I'm guessing that the functionality you want is coming down the pike.
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Stuart do you have any other computers that you have L4 installed on. If so launch Logos in that computer with syncing off (or just to be safe completely disconnect it from the internet). Then make some changes to the file (perhaps even rename it) and then let the computers sync. That should bring back at least what ever was synced.
I have L4 installed on a rarely used computer for this purpose.
It seems like a restore or step back feature might be worthwhile for Logos to implement.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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StuartRobertson said:
I'd still dearly love to know how to back up (and restore) notes, etc. to an external USB drive.
You can backup selected folders or the entire directory here (Windows 7 location): C:\Users\{User Name}\AppData\Local\Logos4\Documents\{Random String}\Documents\Notes.
The problem is that Notes are kept in one big database file. You have to restore the entire file and that means you have to restore all your notes when you only want to restore one. You'd lose any new data in any of the note files made since the backup was created. An active notes user would not want to do this.
If I can give a suggestion to Logos (why not? I've given plenty before) it would be to keep deleted files somewhere they can be restored from. We'd need access to that file occasionally to clean it out - like the Windows recycle bin. I suppose the deleted files could be kept in the active Notes database file, but marked as 'deleted' so they don't show up in our file menu. Don't know but this is a file-level security and mistake-proofing issue we rarely encounter outside of Logos. Windows built in the recycle bin because of this problem.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Well, let's think of the following scenario. I no longer want certain notes and delete them. Logos 4 dutyfully connect with the Logos servers and "updates" the backup, that is, deletes what I deleted. Now, let's say I accidentally deleted these. What then? If I was online at the time of the deletion and if I don't realize what I have done right away, I cannot undo, I'm toast.
Now I have lots of notes and I consider them valuable. I want to be able to include the local note storage in a regular backup set, so as to be able to revert if need be to the last backup. For sure, updates would not be there, but at least I would not have lost everything.
My point is this: does not Logos 4 sync as we go? If so, how is that a backup? If you don't control when and what you backup, you are not in fact backing up. Hence there is still need for a local backup.
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Francis said:
My point is this: does not Logos 4 sync as we go? If so, how is that a backup? If you don't control when and what you backup, you are not in fact backing up. Hence there is still need for a local backup.
YES.
The simple fact is, Logos Bible Software 4 does not have any kind of backup or restore ability!
I consider this to be an extreme weakness in the product, and the Online Sync does not even come close to provide the level of protection you are asking about.
In 4.1 Beta we can now Export/Print some kinds of user-content to one or more file types. However, none of them are in a format that can be restored again.
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