Multiple Layouts with L6?
Is it possible to open multiple layouts with different resources in each layout with Logos 6? Sometimes I open a lot of resources and Logos gets really slow, and I don't like opening a ton of resources at the same time (because it acts like an 18 wheeler going up the hill:)) So I thought I would ask! Anyway to do that?
Thank you!
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Joel Madasu said:
Is it possible to open multiple layouts with different resources in each layout with Logos 6?
I don't believe this is possible but you can create several different layouts and open them up one at a time. This would also be more efficient and would not feel like an 18 wheeler going up hill.
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There is a way to save resources and guides in favorites and then use that to create a floating tool window. The wiki explains the process very well:
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Joel Madasu said:
Is it possible to open multiple layouts with different resources in each layout with Logos 6? Sometimes I open a lot of resources and Logos gets really slow, and I don't like opening a ton of resources at the same time (because it acts like an 18 wheeler going up the hill
I am wondering if we have misunderstood your question. On face value, I don't know how opening multiple layouts at the same time would speed things up. Can you explain more?
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Yes.
What I meant by Logos being slow: the more resources i open, the more tabs, so it adds up to the current layout, and when I want to search something, or scroll pages down or up, it will either freeze or it will shutdown on its own. Sometimes, it will stand still, letting the mouse ring run around and round and round and do nothing.
BUT, if its possible to open different layouts, I don't have to open many tabs (and in someways, doesn't it put less weight on the engine? Probably not. I am not sure, its just a thought) This will be really helpful to me (or others) because I am working on my paper, so I do not want to close other tabs and open new ones while I am working... it makes me looks thought/focus
For Accordance, there is an option to open multiple layouts/workspaces. Its really nice.
But I will try Joh's suggestion.
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Joel Madasu said:
BUT, if its possible to open different layouts, I don't have to open many tabs (and in someways, doesn't it put less weight on the engine? Probably not. I am not sure, its just a thought) This will be really helpful to me (or others) because I am working on my paper, so I do not want to close other tabs and open new ones while I am working... it makes me looks thought/focus
For Accordance, there is an option to open multiple layouts/workspaces. Its really nice.
Again it's not clear whether you're asking for a way to open different layouts simultaneously or to switch from one layout to another when you want to have different tabs available. It is possible to do the latter quite easily in Logos. Just save your different layouts as named layouts and then open them from the Layouts menu when you want to switch between them. More on how to save a named layout here: https://www.logos.com/training/logos5/layouts (this is for Logos 5, but the Layouts menu functionality hasn't changed in L6).
If you're asking about opening different layouts simultaneously, then it isn't possible in Logos per se (except as multiple floating windows), and as someone else pointed out, I don't think it would put less weight on the engine but more, because all those tabs would still be open, they'd just be divided into separate windows. But I think if you explore named layouts, you'll get what you're hoping for.
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Thank you John for the help! That really looks interesting! I will try the Floating Tool Windows.
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Joel Madasu said:
Yes.
What I meant by Logos being slow: the more resources i open, the more tabs, so it adds up to the current layout, and when I want to search something, or scroll pages down or up, it will either freeze or it will shutdown on its own. Sometimes, it will stand still, letting the mouse ring run around and round and round and do nothing.
If you are linking resources (so that bibles and commentaries scroll in sync) or opening collapseable sections (those with a triangle pointing to the right or bottom) of a guide it will slow down performance. Morris Proctor says that it puts extra drain on the engine.
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Joel ... I'd love Logos to add that feature. This issue goes all the back to the introduction of molassas-ware (L4). But conceptually, it can really speed up study even with high-speed software like Accordance.
And it also develops good study habits ... a core set of everyday resources in a layout, and then add-on sets/layouts, depending on the general area, that are already linked, etc. I still run Libronix, and use it as the 'add-on' sets (about 20 of them, each links and left in place where I was working).
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Hi Denise, Yes, this would be really great!
They may be able to do something like this:
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John Fidel said:
There is a way to save resources and guides in favorites and then use that to create a floating tool window. The wiki explains the process very well:
That is a great way to open multiple resources in a window. I wasn't aware of that before.
The layout of resources within the window is not controlled, though. For example, it isn't easy to open a window with three panes automatically. But that's generally not too much of an issue.
The one thing that I'd value some feedback on is whether it is possible to save a shortcut in Favorites which opens the resource already linked to a 'Link set' (A-F). Does anyone know whether it is possible to include this info in the shortcut url?
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John Duffy said:
Does anyone know whether it is possible to include this info in the shortcut url?
There does not appear to be a way to accomplish this. I tried dragging a folder from the Favorites to the toolbar, but it would not stick.
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Jack Caviness said:John Duffy said:
Does anyone know whether it is possible to include this info in the shortcut url?
There does not appear to be a way to accomplish this. I tried dragging a folder from the Favorites to the toolbar, but it would not stick.
Hi Jack, thanks for your feedback too. It's a shame, since this would help go some way towards making a fully-featured mini-layout possible (the other ideal things would be the correct position of resources within panes within the floating window, and remembering the location of the window on the screen). But coming across this tip is a great enhancement to my use of Logos.
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Rosie Perera said:
If you're asking about opening different layouts simultaneously, then it isn't possible in Logos per se
Yes, that was what I was asking for. But thank you for your comment! I am trying to use the Floating Window option with few resources open in the Floating window. Writing dissertation is such a painful thing!
So I am trying to keep all the resources that I need open, so I can always go back and forth between resources. But... on the other side, I cannot open all the resources I need, because L6 will slow down. And I only have a 8Gig, Dual Core Macbook Pro, so that might be the problem too.0 -
This is an old thread but I wanted to see if this is possible with V10.
I can only see a way to have one layout open at a time. I would like to keep more than one layout open at the same time and bounce between them or have them visible at the same time.
Accordance calls Layouts, Workspaces. I included an example of how multiple workspaces can be open in Accordance and would like replicate this in Logos if possible.
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Jerry Trevino said:
I can only see a way to have one layout open at a time.
Yes, that's still the case. This one layout may have several windows with several tools, resources etc, spread over multiple monitors, but it still will be one layout.
Jerry Trevino said:I would like to keep more than one layout open at the same time and bounce between them or have them visible at the same time.
For this there is a workaround: install Logos and Verbum as parallel applications. This will usually require twice the diskspace, but will give you what you describe
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Got it! I’ll experiment with some windows.
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Jerry Trevino said:
Accordance calls Layouts, Workspaces. I included an example of how multiple workspaces can be open in Accordance and would like replicate this in Logos if possibl
Easily accomplished in Logos with multiplle floating windows. My layout for Revelation has the default window and 14 floating windows, many with multiple panels.
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Jerry Trevino said:
Got it! I’ll experiment with some windows.
As the thread hopes for (and years later, yearns for), and as NB indicated (with the multiple windows workaround), the Accordance multiple layouts just isn't in Logos.
Even the guy who had the other good workaround idea (opening multiple favorites at the same time) passed on.
It remains a good idea. I often forget, opening an Accordance layout, it might already be open!
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I have been able to add some floating windows to my layouts. This is definitely nice.
I found another possible option: If you want an extra layout with the navigation bar (which floating windows do not have) you can use the web app in conjunction with the desktop app. Set it up how you want and I believe next time you go to the web app your last layout will come up. Even though the web app has its limitations this might be a handy workaround for someone.
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