Why is this resource "Bible Notes" rather than "Bible Commentary"? It would be nice if it would show up as a parallel resource for commentaries...
Bible Notes should behave like a Bible Commentary - Study Bibles are the prime example.
Also, what about "Calendar Devotionals" acting like Lectionaries? For example, I was expecting "Ancient Christian Devotional: A Year of Weekly Readings: Lectionary Cycle A" to work like a Lectionary...
Calendar Devotional have their own daily display format - a bit different from lectionaries as to where they appear on the home page. How, I believe the Ancient Christian Devotional is not tagged with lectionary dates so it doesn't work as a lectionary or as a calendar devotional ... but I'd have to double check.
I checked: Double checked: It is tagged with liturgical dates and tagged as a calendar devotional. Logos does not handle that combination in any way. I have requested that L8 handle this as part of cleaning up the lectionary/saints/calendar devotional mess.
Are there any other forum threads on this topic?
I think you are right...the Ancient Christian Devotional is categorized as a "Calendar Devotional" but I don't see it listed as a "Daily Devotional"...I don't quite understand.
[The Ancient Christian Devotional] is tagged with liturgical dates and tagged as a calendar devotional. Logos does not handle that combination in any way. I have requested that L8 handle this as part of cleaning up the lectionary/saints/calendar devotional mess.
Any progress on these?
[The Ancient Christian Devotional] is tagged with liturgical dates and tagged as a calendar devotional. Logos does not handle that combination in any way. I have requested that L8 handle this as part of cleaning up the lectionary/saints/calendar devotional mess. Any progress on these?
It seems there was some progress in changing the datatype to "Calendar Devotional" (used to be monograph) - however, this is no real progress, since this type doesn't solve anything. The reason they can't be added as tiles on the homepage is the same as before: they don't have a YearMonthDay index - as the lectionaries do, and which would make sense for this resource, since the devotions don't follow a calendar year, but the lectionary, which runs for three years, but each Sunday's calender date will be different every year.
But you can have the RCL on the homepage and link ACD to it in the same link set and have it open in a layout - as discussed (including screenshots) here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/172798/997806.aspx#997806
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the Ancient Christian Devotional is categorized as a "Calendar Devotional" but I don't see it listed as a "Daily Devotional"...I don't quite understand.
either there needs to be a homepage tile that understands liturgical dates, or this resource needs to have YearMonthDay index entries built for it to work alone on the L8 homepage.
Isn't there already a Lectionary homepage tile? Are you saying FaithLife just needs to change The Ancient Christian Devotional type to "Lectionary"?
What type would make sense in order to make Hearing God Through the Year: A 365-Day Devotional a homepage tile option?
either there needs to be a homepage tile that understands liturgical dates, or this resource needs to have YearMonthDay index entries built for it to work alone on the L8 homepage. Isn't there already a Lectionary homepage tile? Are you saying FaithLife just needs to change The Ancient Christian Devotional type to "Lectionary"?
No. The Logos resource types (mainly) are human-understandable representations of the technical indexes applied.
Hope this helps
However, Logos and Verbum currently have no known functionality that directly applies to opening those in a lectionary tile from the homepage
Maybe I am using the wrong words to describe what I am suggesting? I see a Lectionary homepage title option as in the below screenshot.
I wasn't allowed by the publisher to get this resource into my library, so I couldn't check for myself, but since this is a book from the Faithlife ebook store (formerly known as Vyrso), this most probably is type:monograph and has no index whatsoever - correct me if I'm wrong. If this is the case, there is no "type that would make sense" - monographs are the "all else" category and most have no index at all (except for page, which doesn't help at all). Assigning another type would be useless without the index.
A good idea to make a homepage tile could be a Reading Plan for the resource.
However, Logos and Verbum currently have no known functionality that directly applies to opening those in a lectionary tile from the homepage Maybe I am using the wrong words to describe what I am suggesting? I see a Lectionary homepage title option as in the below screenshot.
Yes - this works for type:lectionary resources that have a YearMonthDay index. I've asked in another thread that this index be added to ACD.
Er... ah... I think you are confusing two things so I hope your request is rejected as it could create a fine kettle of fish:
What you need to be asking for is that the liturgical calendar dates (ordo) be split out as a separate entity from the lectionary so that it would be simpler to run devotionals off the liturgical calendar. It would be worth bringing this to the attention of the Verbum staff as they still have to work out the solution for the loss of functionality on the home page. The best solution would be three calendars: secular, liturgical, sanctoral.
Yes - this works for type:lectionary resources that have a YearMonthDay index. I've asked in another thread that this index be added to ACD. Er... ah... I think you are confusing two things so I hope your request is rejected as it could create a fine kettle of fish: calendar devotionals are tied to the SECULAR calendar which is the same from year to year. These resources run directly off "today's date"
er... yes.... and where's the confusion? ACD is not a secular calendar type of resource, but indexed according to three liturgical calendars
liturgical calendar resources are tied to the LITURGICAL calendar which varies in (a) dates included and in the (b) alignment of dates to secular dates. It works off liturgical dates as assigned in the lectionary resources to a secular date in a particular year.
I think I know that. I referred to that above. All Logos lectionaries work that way, and assign their liturgical dates to secular dates - e.g. RCL assigns the 1 Sunday in Lent in year C to next Sunday, March 10, 2019. (and to another secular date in other years now gone by - see red box below). Since ACD is indexed to liturgical dates, it shows readings for 1 Sunday in Lent in year C - slightly differing from RCL in reading Joel from the OT instead of Deuteronomy, but other than that it is a typical lectionary order:
What you need to be asking for is that the liturgical calendar dates (ordo) be split out as a separate entity from the lectionary so that it would be simpler to run devotionals off the liturgical calendar.
I am not arguing against that.
Support for liturgical days would be a great addition to Logos/Verbum. I fully support this as a necessary thing not only for Catholic Christians but for all even remotely liturgically-minded Christians (I read that nearly 100% of pastors in the official protestant church in Germany ["Evangelische Kirche Deutschlands"] preach from the lectionary and follow it in the program of their services - albeit a six year-cycle not compatible to RCL).
But currently, this is not an existing functionality. What Logos built instead was the YearMonthDay index which does exactly what you wrote: it assigns the liturgical dates to secular dates in given years. This is the index missing in ACD to use this as a standalone lectionary resource from a homepage tile just like RCL or any of the others.
