Mark 9:12 Speech Act and Sentence tagging, correct or wrong?

Pieter J.
Pieter J. Member Posts: 533
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Maybe I don't see the obvious? Why is the last sentence in Mark 9:12 tagged seperately?

({Section <SpeechAct = Info: Quest>} AND {Section <Sentence ~ Interrogative>}) 

Sentence ~ Interrogative: "And how is it written of the Son of Man that he should suffer many things"

Speech Act = Question: "and be treated with contempt?"

Isn't the complete sentence Interrogative and a Question?

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,787 ✭✭✭

    Not a tag-amist, but two prophesies, if I remember right?

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,857

    PJ said:

    Isn't the complete sentence Interrogative and a Question?

    The tagging is done against a Greek bible (SBLGNT), where the last part (Speech Act) is only two words, but the two parts are separate clauses. Nonetheless, it is one sentence (or quote), so we need Faithlife to respond.

    Dave
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  • Pieter J.
    Pieter J. Member Posts: 533
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1023760#Comment_1023760

    Dave Hooton said:

    Nonetheless, it is one sentence (or quote), so we need Faithlife to respond.

    Thanks Dave, I also checked the Greek for this and tried to understand why it was tagged this way but couldn't get much insight.

    I'm only worried that a lot of information is lost when a search is made with AND, WITHIN or INTERSECT as it will produce different results in this case.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,857
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1023842#Comment_1023842

    PJ said:

    I'm only worried that a lot of information is lost when a search is made with AND, WITHIN or INTERSECT as it will produce different results in this case.

    The operator you use depends on what you want from the Search!  AND is perhaps the most ambiguous, as it requires both terms to be in the same passage (Bible Search) or same chapter (Basic Search), whether or not they overlap.

    If you want overlapping terms, WITHIN says the first term must be wholly within the second term, whilst INTERSECTS requires that they overlap partially or wholly.

    And you can get information from a requirement like {Section <SpeechAct = Info: Quest>}  NOT INTERSECTS  {Section <Sentence ~ Interrogative>} i.e. the first term does not overlap the second term.

    Dave
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