Tagging Suggestions / thoughts in L8 Library
Let me start by saying that I didn't tag my library very much in previous versions. Mostly because I was struggling so hard to just use it as a Bible study software, the last thing I had time for was customizing it beyond collections. Anyway, I usually tagged a resource that I wanted to find easily, because I had such a hard time find my resources in previous versions. Now that we have this fantastic drop down library, (and I'm finding that I'm actually ENJOYING my time in Logos instead of wanting to throw my computer out the window), would you mind sharing some other uses that you would have for tagging? Maybe even share a screenshot? Thanks!
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Cynthia,
Just curious. What part of Florida are you in? I'm very close to Destin, FL.
I love Logos. Had it for 12 years and still have a lot to learn.
Blessings,
Susan
Cynthia,
I was hoping you were closer. It's good to see that you're getting a lot of people in your church to use Logos. I'm in a large church but many of the people don't seem to be that interested. I've managed to get one family to buy it and a friend that's using the free version, but that's it. I use Logos just about every day and love it.
When I lived in Birmingham, AL I went to Chattanooga to Kay Arthur's studies and that's how I was introduced to Logos. Lots of people there were using Logos and of course I had to get it.
Blessings, Susan
Hi Susan:
If you do not mind me asking: Did you ever hear of an inductive topical Bible study? The concept just crossed my mind when reading about your experience with Kay Arthur's studies.
Searching found the following:
https://studyandobey.com/inductive-bible-study/prayer/
Which curious enough was characterized as the following search hit:
Hi Susan:
If you do not mind me asking: Did you ever hear of an inductive topical Bible study? The concept just crossed my mind when reading about your experience with Kay Arthur's studies.
Searching found the following:
https://studyandobey.com/inductive-bible-study/prayer/
Which curious enough was characterized as the following search hit:
Hello Hamilton:
I'm not Susan, but if you don't mind, I'll chime in on this, since I teach, write, and train leaders in inductive Bible study.
There is such thing as topical inductive Bible study. The "purist" in inductive Bible study would say that the topical study is to be done in the context of the book study. For example, you come across a passage in Ephesians regarding submission, and since you have already studied the background of the book, the recipients, etc., etc., and you know the context of the current passage, you then can do a topical study on biblical submission as related to other areas of Scripture. However, there are also books out there that show how to do a topical study outside of a book study. I tend to not favor this type too much, as I find it more deductive than inductive.
I'm about to walk out the door, but if you would like--when I finally respond to your email I requested (thanks for reaching out to me)--I'll send you some info/resources.
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
However, there are also books out there that show how to do a topical study outside of a book study. I tend to not favor this type too much, as I find it more deductive than inductive.
This is curious, since the NT writers usually did intertextual, diachronical treatment of topics. Take Paul, on Spirit vs Law, Faith, etc. He went all over the place and synthesized it neatly under the Holy Spirit, to give us the most awesome systematic theology treatment to that date.
I'm about to walk out the door, but if you would like--when I finally respond to your email I requested (thanks for reaching out to me)--I'll send you some info/resources.
Thanks for the resources / info. If you could direct me to recommended resources in L8, and some web sites to check out, (better if deal with inductive topical).
It is no secret that I am all about topical, systematical, diachronical, intertextual, and theological study of the Bible. And I do it because is the model I see the authorized spokespersons of God (the Apostles) do it.
I understand well that the most important context in the Bible is that of its Author: the Holy Spirit, who can transcend language, historical, ethnical, cultural and other contexts, so He is the one that can lead you to the truth (Jesus Christ and not some group), as He is not bound by any of our contexts.
Feel free to mail as you wish. Thanks ahead of time for the recommendations you can share with us.
However, there are also books out there that show how to do a topical study outside of a book study. I tend to not favor this type too much, as I find it more deductive than inductive.This is curious, since the NT writers usually did intertextual, diachronical treatment of topics. Take Paul, on Spirit vs Law, Faith, etc. He went all over the place and synthesized it neatly under the Holy Spirit, to give us the most awesome systematic theology treatment to that date.
I'm about to walk out the door, but if you would like--when I finally respond to your email I requested (thanks for reaching out to me)--I'll send you some info/resources.Thanks for the resources / info. If you could direct me to recommended resources in L8, and some web sites to check out, (better if deal with inductive topical).
It is no secret that I am all about topical, systematical, diachronical, intertextual, and theological study of the Bible. And I do it because is the model I see the authorized spokespersons of God (the Apostles) do it.
I understand well that the most important context in the Bible is that of its Author: the Holy Spirit, who can transcend language, historical, ethnical, cultural and other contexts, so He is the one that can lead you to the truth (Jesus Christ and not some group), as He is not bound by any of our contexts.
Feel free to mail as you wish. Thanks ahead of time for the recommendations you can share with us.
Hello Hamilton:
Thanks for your response. Since this is a discussion I really enjoy but conversely is getting off topic, I’ll go ahead and email you my responses.
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
However, there are also books out there that show how to do a topical study outside of a book study. I tend to not favor this type too much, as I find it more deductive than inductive.
Cynthia in Florida, excuse the logician in me for butting in, especially since I've long since figured out "inductive" doesn't mean "inductive" in this context but deductive logic is where we know that if the statements we start with are true, then our conclusion is true. Inductive logic is where we know that if the statements we start with are true, then our conclusion is probably but not necessarily true. So love your inductive but don't knock my deductive, please [:)]
And if anyone can tell me the historical reason that for a subset of Christians "deductive" came to mean starting with facts outside the Bible and "inductive" was taken to mean starting with facts inside the Bible, I would love to hear it because the term "inductive Bible study" drives me nuts.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
However, there are also books out there that show how to do a topical study outside of a book study. I tend to not favor this type too much, as I find it more deductive than inductive.Cynthia in Florida, excuse the logician in me for butting in, especially since I've long since figured out "inductive" doesn't mean "inductive" in this context but deductive logic is where we know that if the statements we start with are true, then our conclusion is true. Inductive logic is where we know that if the statements we start with are true, then our conclusion is probably but not necessarily true. So love your inductive but don't knock my deductive, please
And if anyone can tell me the historical reason that for a subset of Christians "deductive" came to mean starting with facts outside the Bible and "inductive" was taken to mean starting with facts inside the Bible, I would love to hear it because the term "inductive Bible study" drives me nuts.
In mathematics (my secular training) inductive does not mean that something is probably, but not necessarily true. It means that you show that (1) the proposition is true for some number and (2) demonstrate that if it is true for a variable n, then it is also true for n+1. So you start from the specific example and then show that the example implies the whole.
I think the terminology "inductive Bible study" may come from that sense, where you begin with a specific example and see if that principle carries over to other texts (working up), while deductive begins with axioms (whether the categories of systematics, creeds or whatever) and then work down. In real life, of course, we always do both intermingled. Like in math, induction refers to a specific technique, but really depends on the insight of the other approach.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
One practice I have is to tag every book I finish with 2 separate tags. 1. Completed 2. the year I read it.
This enables me to find a particular thought or phrase in any book I've read. And enables me to see what books I've read each year.
Cynthia, I'm so glad that you are enjoying Logos much more than in the past. I think it will only get better!
I've shared this in the past but perhaps I will share it again. This is the tagging system I use. I find it not only good to easily access specific topics in my library but the discipline of going through each resource helps me familiarize myself with it. I especially like being able to tag books I would like to read by specific topics.
5140.Copy - My Tagging System for Logos.docx
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God
Bruce! Wow! WOW! WOWZA!
Okay, that's amazing. I'm really blown away!
So, here's my question: Upon quick review, it looks as if about 1/2 or so of what you have in here (I think), Logos now does with the library filter menu (commentaries, books of the bible, language, lexicon, theology tags, etc., etc.) Will you keep tagging like you have in the past, and if so, what would be the benefit?
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
The Filter sidebar uses system metadata for most of what you say. Tags (My Tags) are user metadata which are also used by the Filter. But the Library Filter doesn't replace the use of collections in searches, guides, etc. i.e. where the tags are used to define a dynamic rule for a collection.
Dave
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Dave answered your question from the perspective of using collections but I still think tagging every resource has the added benefit of having my own categories which may differ from the sorting Logos uses. Of course when I started to do this Logos didn't have library filters.
I'd be interested to hear what you finally decided to do in the end so please let us know.
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God
Dave: Thanks for your response. I understand.
Bruce: I actually took your list and edited it down. For now, I decided not to tag categories and instead tag topics. I’m content with Logos’ tag for category/resource type for now.
Thank you both For your help!
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
A shout out to Bruce for his work. I used his list with a couple of modifications a few years ago and tagged all my resources. I do this when I add resources.
Also I apply a rating to my books so that I can find any new ones that come down. I simply do a rating:0 to find them. Now that filters are there you might not need that.
Also I keep track of all my other non-Logos books; paper and Kindle, by tagging them. I settled on a library tracking app on my ios devices, called BookBuddy. I can scan in paper books and I export a list of Kindle books into a spreadsheet and then apply the same tags as in Logos. I also export out a spreadsheet of Logos books at the end of the year to add to the database. So I can quickly fine a books and determine where it is; shelf; Logos, Kindle.
Some of us end up being librarians it seems as we manage our libraries.
Now that made me smile. [:)]
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God