Performance of Logos8 on Mac OS 10.14.4
I do not see much difference in the performance and responsiveness for Logos8 on Mac Mac OS 10.14.4 .
Is there a good way to split up any caching on a separate secondary device so things can happen more in parallel?
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Sorry, but I’m not sure what you are comparing with - where you don’t see the difference. Please expand
And, no, there isn’t any mechanism to move caching elsewhere
What sort of performance levels are you seeing that cause concern?
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Just general slowness.
E.g.
- Startup from scratch, took a while to settle into a state where I can start typing it. In general, it took around 1.5 min to 100 secs to be in a usable state.
- Type in a biblical ref in the Open Passage area and hit GO and it takes around 2.5 mins to set up the page
- Hover my pointer over a word in the original text to bring up Information (like BDAG), and it look 90 seconds or more.
My friend said there was a significant improvement in the Windows platform but I'm not seeing it in Mac OS.
0 - Startup from scratch, took a while to settle into a state where I can start typing it. In general, it took around 1.5 min to 100 secs to be in a usable state.
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Those performance times seem very slow. I use Windows but other Mac users are getting better performance than that.
What Mac do you have and, in particular, do you have an SSD?
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Arthur Yeo said:
- Startup from scratch, took a while to settle into a state where I can start typing it. In general, it took around 1.5 min to 100 secs to be in a usable state.
- Type in a biblical ref in the Open Passage area and hit GO and it takes around 2.5 mins to set up the page
- Hover my pointer over a word in the original text to bring up Information (like BDAG), and it look 90 seconds or more.
I agree with Graham...I use a Mac and these times are nowhere near normal. Something is wrong, but we need more information. IN additional to what Graham asked for, posting your logs might help us see what's going on under the hood. See below in my signature for how to post logs.
0 - Startup from scratch, took a while to settle into a state where I can start typing it. In general, it took around 1.5 min to 100 secs to be in a usable state.
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Here are my hardware specs (it's an older Mac Mini):
Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: Macmini7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Boot ROM Version: 238.0.0.0.0
SMC Version (system): 2.24f32
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No SSD.
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I'm installing Logging Util.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Arthur Yeo said:
Model Identifier: Macmini7,1
No SSD. This is going to have the most significant effect on performance (although the delays you are reporting seem extreme even for a HD).
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Arthur Yeo said:
Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: Macmini7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz
Complete specs for Late 2014 Mac mini => https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-i5-2.6-late-2014-specs.html
OWC offers Aura Pro X2 upgrade kit that includes PCIe cable => https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ssd/owc/mac-mini/2014
Concur with recommendation for SSD upgrade for noticeable performance improvements in macOS and Logos.
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I run Logos 8 on two Windows machines. The first is Windows 7 with hex core processor, 64 Gb RAM, and SSD. Similarly bad performance. 3+ minutes to become usable and then it is just usable. Second machine is Windows 10 with quad core processor and 32 Gb RAM, and non-SSD. Better performance, but not great and not nearly as good as Logos 7.
Is there any way to go back to Logos 7? I tried to reinstall using my original Logos 7 setup file, but it wouldn't work. My guess is that the old set file was trying to install software prior to the 7.19 security update.
Any help speeding up Logos 8 or going back to Logos 7 would be appreciated!
Mike H
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Hi Michael - and welcome to the forums
Sorry to hear you are having performance issues.
I recommend starting a new thread in this forum and we will try to work out what is going on.
I don’t recommend trying to go back to Logos 7 but we can look the reasons for the performance you are seeing.
Graham
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I found this thread because I wanted to comment on slowness on a Mac, only started recently. I notice it when I click inside a note and add text. It takes up to ten seconds just for the note to be ready for me to enter text.
If I stay in the note, then no delay but if I highlight text in another window or leave the note window (click somewhere else), then go back there - then there is that long delay.
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Hi Scott! If you want to troubleshoot, please create a new thread. Explain your issue clearly and provide logs. See my signature line.
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I have finally gotten around to buy a new external SSD (2TB).
How do I move the files that are used by Logos desktop to the SSD? Please point me to any docs or instructions I can follow, please?
Thanks!
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For enhanced performance, you need an INTERNAL SSD. The drive should be the same as the one your operating system is on.Arthur Yeo said:I have finally gotten around to buy a new external SSD (2TB).
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Arthur Yeo said:
How do I move the files that are used by Logos desktop to the SSD? Please point me to any docs or instructions I can follow, please?
Logos wiki has => Install in different folder or drive
Arthur Yeo said:I have finally gotten around to buy a new external SSD (2TB).
Curious about external connection ? Late 2014 Mac Mini has Thunderbolt and USB options for external storage.
Personally have experienced macOS 10.14 sometimes ejecting USB external 512 GB SSD, which causes my Logos 8 to crash (since have my Resources folder on external SSD due to faster internal SSD not having enough storage space).
I Fix It has Late 2014 Mac Mini repair guides => https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Mac_Mini_Late_2014
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cloning the entire drive to the external and then starting off it should work ok. Superduper or carboncopycloner should work ok.
-dan
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Dan Francis said:
cloning the entire drive to the external and then starting off it should work ok.
Creating USB installer for macOS allows startup from USB so Apple's Disk Utility can be used for copying (restoring) storage partitions.
Edit: also have installed macOS to a new storage partition, which included copy of stuff from an existing partition.
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>> Logos wiki has => Install in different folder or drive
In that link, it talked about Logos using ~/Library/"Application Support"/Logos4
When I went to my ~/Library/"Application Support"/ dir, there is only Logos4.
I thought we are on Logos8 ?
Am I missing something? Or they have not changed the name of the folder?
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Arthur Yeo said:
Or they have not changed the name of the folder?
There is a technical reason why it can't change... so "Logos 4" is correct.
I do want to make sure you understand, however, that installations on external drives is not supported by Faithlife. Use at your own risk.
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