How to Backup Notes on my own computer

Daniel Thornton
Daniel Thornton Member Posts: 4
edited November 20 in English Forum

Okay, call me paranoid, but I like to have usable copies of all my work on my computer. 

How can I backup all my notes onto my computer in a format that I could still use in the event Faithlife disappears?

I have transferred all my notes from all my personal Bibles (since childhood) into Logos Notes. If something were to happen to Faithlife 15 years from now, I want to have a copy of those notes and all my current notes on my computer. The format may be rudimentary (RTF, CSV) but I would at least have it.

How can I keep a regular (weekly?) back up of all my Logos Notes?

Dan

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  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭

    How can I backup all my notes onto my computer in a format that I could still use in the event Faithlife disappears?

    This exact subject comes up about once every other year or so and occupies the forums for a few days.  Every year, the answer is less and less, "it's possible" and more and more, "can't be done (at least, not efficiently)."

    I'm curious if some new work has been done on the FL side to make local backups more feasible (not just notes, but resources, etc.). I'm not aware of any.

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  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭

    Your notes do reside on your computer locally. They are also on the Faithlife servers. If something happened and suddenly all cloud servers were gone, you would still have your notes on your computer. You would still be able to open the version of Logos you have installed on your computer. It is true that there are some tools and features which depend on communication with the FL servers. It is also true that the number of tools and features dependent on internet access has grown over the years. However your notes are not one of them. 

    When you back up your HD, you are backing up your notes.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭

    How can I backup all my notes onto my computer in a format that I could still use in the event Faithlife disappears?

    As far as I know, this is possible by using the print/export option, printing all notes as a pdf document.  Does this not work?



  • Daniel Thornton
    Daniel Thornton Member Posts: 4

    If it did work to just Export all notes to a Word Document, that would satisfy what I need. Unfortunately, it appears that there is a limit of 157 pages for an export of Notes (254 pages in Word). So that does not work.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,408 ✭✭✭

    How can I backup all my notes onto my computer in a format that I could still use in the event Faithlife disappears?

    This exact subject comes up about once every other year or so and occupies the forums for a few days.  Every year, the answer is less and less, "it's possible" and more and more, "can't be done (at least, not efficiently)."

    I'm curious if some new work has been done on the FL side to make local backups more feasible (not just notes, but resources, etc.). I'm not aware of any.

    That's ALWAYS been a curiousity, especially since we're talking largely pastors who move across less expensive platforms. And comma delimited is so common too.  Saying that you can just back up your PC is best illustrated by Bibleworks and Libby ... good as long as Windows likes you. Then, bye, bye.

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    How can I keep a regular (weekly?) back up of all my Logos Notes?

    I think Fred covered this comprehensively. For peace of mind you might like to disconnect your computer from the internet and confirm that you still have access to your notes.

    If you do, and I am sure you will, then that will confirm that your notes are indeed on your computer.

    If now there is a meteorite strike on Bellingham, and you survive it yourself, you will be able to run Logos on your computer off line and use the next wee while before the infrastructure of civilisation breaks down to move your notes onto a tangible format.

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Darin
    Darin Member Posts: 6

    My notes are available offline. I live in a RV a internet access is limited. I'm using Logos 8.

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Darin

    I guess that will give Danial some confidence that his notes are in his possession.

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Koos de Lijster
    Koos de Lijster Member Posts: 11

    I'm on Logos 9, Windows 10, and I guess my notes (and highlights and so on) are stored in database files somewhere in C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Local\Logos\Documents. If you make backups it may be wise to include everything you can find there. 

    Another question is whether these files can be opened apart from Logos. I could not open them simply with Microsoft Access.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    simply with Microsoft Access.

    I believe you will find that many of them are encrypted SQLLite files.

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  • CRBoone
    CRBoone Member Posts: 87

    I've not transferred my notes to a Bible app for this very reason. So, just to confirm -- could all the notes be effectively exported by printing them in groups? Like by notebook or label, or some other way -- in order to get around the size limitation?

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  • Jack Hairston
    Jack Hairston Member Posts: 1,087 ✭✭

    in order to get around the size limitation?

    To export notes beyond the page limit:
    1586.Export Limit.docx

  • CRBoone
    CRBoone Member Posts: 87

    Thank you! Yes, this seems to be a fairly reasonable process if needed.

    Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou [art] God. (Ps 90:2)

  • jlamb
    jlamb Member Posts: 1

    As a librarian who thinks about long term archival ability, I find it unfortunate and saddening that Faithlife has not prioritized an easier way to do this. If a well known pastor wants to donate his intellectual work to an institution at the end of his life, they do not have an easy way to do so. There is a way, as Jack helpfully explained, but it seems like a reluctant afterthought. Christianity is much richer because of the saved notes, letters, and sermons of those who came before.

  • Andreas Roemer
    Andreas Roemer Member Posts: 1,130

    To export notes beyond the page limit:

    [Y]Thank you so much, it work's. Great explanation, should be in Logos-F1.

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