Question on Atlas Tool & Its Status
I was playing around with the atlas today and I cannot figure out what this icon does. It looks like it would repoint the map north but I cannot figure out a way to turn the map. I checked the atlas documentation file and the pro video (https://www.logos.com/logos-pro/atlas) but neither mention this icon. Anyone know?
Also I was curious from FL how the atlas is fairing up and when it might be finally completed as I remember it from the L6 days. Are all the maps in now? I noticed not every map has a media collection associated with it so is that still forthcoming? I also noticed on certain maps that changing from Flat to Terrain does nothing except change the colors (See Deborah/Barak maps).
Thx in Advance
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I was playing around with the atlas today and I cannot figure out what this icon does. It looks like it would repoint the map north but I cannot figure out a way to turn the map.
I don't see it in the documentation (BUG):
Shift + Hold Right Mouse Button + Move left or right => Rotates map
Shift + Arrow Keys left or right => Rotates Map
Shift + Hold Right Mouse Button + Move up or down => Tilts map
Shift + Arrow Keys up or down => Tilts Map
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Thank you Randy. I hope they add that to the documentation0
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Thanks Randy, I did not know about this feature, and I have the map on my main reading page in a link set, the tilt really brings the terrain to life [Y]
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And the mystery-arrow button sets everything aright after being set askew.
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This works on my system, but the atlas is so slow in responding, I would have never figured it out without being told (thank you, Randy). But even with this post explaining it, at first I thought it wasn't working because it is sooooooo slow to respond. For all practical purposes, the Atlas is simply too slow to use on my setup (i7-6500 CPU @ 2.50-2.59 GHz, 16GB memory, 256GB SSD, internet speed 12 Mbps).I was playing around with the atlas today and I cannot figure out what this icon does. It looks like it would repoint the map north but I cannot figure out a way to turn the map.
I don't see it in the documentation (BUG):
Shift + Hold Right Mouse Button + Move left or right => Rotates map
Shift + Arrow Keys left or right => Rotates Map
Shift + Hold Right Mouse Button + Move up or down => Tilts map
Shift + Arrow Keys up or down => Tilts Map
I'm still unclear though as to what the arrow "icon" on the map is for or how to use it.
EDIT: Oops! Just read GaoLu's post. Thanks for that!
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This works on my system, but the atlas is so slow in responding, I would have never figured it out without being told (thank you, Randy). But even with this post explaining it, at first I thought it wasn't working because it is sooooooo slow to respond. For all practical purposes, the Atlas is simply too slow to use on my setup (i7-6500 CPU @ 2.50-2.59 GHz, 16GB memory, 256GB SSD, internet speed 12 Mbps).
Yes, it used to run better on my Surface 3 than it does now on my much more powerful Surface Pro (2017) model. Something changed along the way. I recall that macOS had GPU issues that Faithlife eventually resolved. They seem to have overlooked the issues on some Windows computers, although I'm sure it has been pointed out before.
Some media resources have been notoriously slow and unresponsive as well (e.g., 1000 Bible Images), whether for similar or different reasons. It's been a while since I've looked into these issues or raised them.
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I checked the Atlas tool in the Logos app in Android and the app.logos.com in the PC and Android. I can zoom and rotate the map in the touch screen using the finger gestures.
But in the official Logos PC version those gestures won't work with the touch screen.
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In general, I find the map/atlas feature sooooo much easier and faster to use in a competitor's product, that when I'm studying in Logos and want to check something out on a map, I often open the other product and use the Atlas feature there. In fact, did that again just this week when wanting to view the location of four cities being discussed in a Mobile Ed NT course I'm going through, because the locations had some bearing on where various scholars think the letters were likely to have been written from.This works on my system, but the atlas is so slow in responding, I would have never figured it out without being told (thank you, Randy). But even with this post explaining it, at first I thought it wasn't working because it is sooooooo slow to respond. For all practical purposes, the Atlas is simply too slow to use on my setup (i7-6500 CPU @ 2.50-2.59 GHz, 16GB memory, 256GB SSD, internet speed 12 Mbps).
Yes, it used to run better on my Surface 3 than it does now on my much more powerful Surface Pro (2017) model. Something changed along the way. I recall that macOS had GPU issues that Faithlife eventually resolved. They seem to have overlooked the issues on some Windows computers, although I'm sure it has been pointed out before.
Some media resources have been notoriously slow and unresponsive as well (e.g., 1000 Bible Images), whether for similar or different reasons. It's been a while since I've looked into these issues or raised them.
It was so easy (and fast) in the other application.
- Open the Atlas
- Start typing the first city, the app auto fills the name, I hit enter, and the Atlas positions itself to that area and highlights the city name in red.
- Start typing the second, third, and fourth cities and ditto--same as with the first city.
- I then had a map with all four cities highlighted in red and I was able to easily get distances (as the crow flies) between them.
I look forward to the day when it's that easy in Logos.
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Wow I wish it was that easy in Logos... I tried to find a river the other day and even though the Factbook found it and had a link to the atlas, when I clicked all it did was load the map. The rivers weren't even labeled. I gave up eventually and looked it up in an atlas
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If I had my druthers, this would be one of the first things Logos would fix and fix well.
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Hadn't a clue these features were here Randy. Thank you for pointing that out.
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Any thoughts from FL on whether this documentation could be added to Atlas?
Any thoughts from FL on if there are further additions coming to the atlas?
Thx
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I tried to find a river the other day
What river was that?
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I tried to find a river the other day
What river was that?
The Kishon River... Doing Judges 4-5 next week
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Any thoughts from FL on whether this documentation could be added to Atlas?
Any thoughts from FL on if there are further additions coming to the atlas?
Thx
Bump
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Against a brick wall?
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This works on my system, but the atlas is so slow in responding, I would have never figured it out without being told (thank you, Randy). But even with this post explaining it, at first I thought it wasn't working because it is sooooooo slow to respond. For all practical purposes, the Atlas is simply too slow to use on my setup (i7-6500 CPU @ 2.50-2.59 GHz, 16GB memory, 256GB SSD, internet speed 12 Mbps).
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Rick, I'd like to better understand the Atlas slowness you're experiencing on your system. For example, on my modern MacBook Pro just now:
- I restarted Logos, and then started from the Factbook page on the Arnon River and clicked on the map in the Media section with tooltip Battles of the Wandering Israelites.
- I'd say it took about 7 seconds to open the Atlas panel, bring up the map, zoom in and show the orange circle.
- Having loaded the map, zooming and panning seem nearly instantaneous
- Switching to a different map in the sidebar takes a few seconds at most
What's your experience like?
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Any thoughts from FL on whether this documentation could be added to Atlas?
Any thoughts from FL on if there are further additions coming to the atlas?
Thx
I've passed the documentation feedback along: thanks for that.
We're not currently planning a feature like the one Rick describes, though i can appreciate why he wants it. The current best way to get a general sense of "where are these several places?" will be a Biblical World map for the appropriate era (in his case, Biblical World - The Early Church).
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Any thoughts from FL on whether this documentation could be added to Atlas?
Any thoughts from FL on if there are further additions coming to the atlas?
Thx
I've passed the documentation feedback along: thanks for that.
We're not currently planning a feature like the one Rick describes, though i can appreciate why he wants it. The current best way to get a general sense of "where are these several places?" will be a Biblical World map for the appropriate era (in his case, Biblical World - The Early Church).
Thank you Sean. Are there further updates coming to the atlas or is it finished? I noticed that there are some without slides. Also I couldn't remember where you were on getting these maps updated. Will rivers make it into maps? Thx
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Wow I wish it was that easy in Logos... I tried to find a river the other day and even though the Factbook found it and had a link to the atlas, when I clicked all it did was load the map. The rivers weren't even labeled. I gave up eventually and looked it up in an atlas
Mattillo, can you provide more information on this?
If i go to the Factbook page for Kishon, the first map in the Media section links to Deborah and Barak Gather an Army Once i zoom in (a lot, if my last viewed map was a Biblical World map with broad coverage), i see something like this, and Kishon is labeled. What do you see?
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Any thoughts from FL on whether this documentation could be added to Atlas?
Any thoughts from FL on if there are further additions coming to the atlas?
Thx
I've passed the documentation feedback along: thanks for that.
We're not currently planning a feature like the one Rick describes, though i can appreciate why he wants it. The current best way to get a general sense of "where are these several places?" will be a Biblical World map for the appropriate era (in his case, Biblical World - The Early Church).
Thank you Sean. Are there further updates coming to the atlas or is it finished? I noticed that there are some without slides. Also I couldn't remember where you were on getting these maps updated. Will rivers make it into maps? Thx
Nothing at Faithlife is ever "finished"[:)] Our current Atlas work is focused on
- Completing localization (we offer Atlas in six languages besides English)
- Completing Media Maps (the slides)
We've also produced some new maps as part of the Geographic Commentary series: those will show up in Atlas if you own the related product.
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Wow I wish it was that easy in Logos... I tried to find a river the other day and even though the Factbook found it and had a link to the atlas, when I clicked all it did was load the map. The rivers weren't even labeled. I gave up eventually and looked it up in an atlas
Mattillo, can you provide more information on this?
If i go to the Factbook page for Kishon, the first map in the Media section links to Deborah and Barak Gather an Army Once i zoom in (a lot, if my last viewed map was a Biblical World map with broad coverage), i see something like this, and Kishon is labeled. What do you see?
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Well gosh Sean... I will apologize as I did not notice that little Kishon up there. I find the river hard to see on the map you show so I went to the next one entitled Deborah and Barak defeat the Canaanites and it is easier to see on that one. I think what must have happened is I zoomed in to get close to the battle scene which cut out the Kishon description. My apologies for that and the delay in responding to you.
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The New Moody Bible Atlas has a nice map of the Mountains and Rivers of Palestine.
It would be nice if someday we would be able to search for these places in other maps and atlases. So Factbook would include the New Moody Atlas places.
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I agree. In the mean time, I put all my atlases, maps, charts, and images into a collection. NowI can do a search for any event or place using this collection. It provides a lot of returns.
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DanC, did you manually make this collection or use a rule to gather them? If you created a rule, would you mind sharing it? I'm interested in doing the same!
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Well gosh Sean... I will apologize ...
I'm sorry, Mattillo, but when I looked at Sean's map, I didn't see any river. I think you'd have to know Kishon was 'the river'. I don't use the Atlas because they're so adament to not do normal mapping.
On iOS, I have my favorite mapping (ScenicMaps apps), and the dev guy is quite snappy (doesn't abide fix it suggestions). But he re-did a whole download series because he forgot the river names .. quite apologetic. And real names too ... like 'Mississippi River'.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DanC, did you manually make this collection or use a rule to gather them? If you created a rule, would you mind sharing it? I'm interested in doing the same!
Unfortunately atlas isn't a tag in Logos. I don't have a lot of atlas' but what I have done is gone through the ones I have and tag them "atlas". Then you can make a rule mytag:atlas and that would work.
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Does the "Rose Then and Now Bible Map Atlas" work much like the Atlas I use in Logos 8? I see no name on the one I presently have other than Atlas. I'm using Logos 8 and believe it's the Silver package I presently have.
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DanC, did you manually make this collection or use a rule to gather them? If you created a rule, would you mind sharing it? I'm interested in doing the same!
Here is what I used for my collection. I also had to manually add three books for a total of 72 resources.
title:atlas OR title:map OR title:chart OR title:image
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Does the "Rose Then and Now Bible Map Atlas" work much like the Atlas I use in Logos 8? I see no name on the one I presently have other than Atlas. I'm using Logos 8 and believe it's the Silver package I presently have.
The "Rose Then and Now Bible Map Atlas" is a traditional atlas. I don't know how many maps it has overall: but the chapter on Paul includes
- Saul's Early Years
- The traditional maps of 3 missionary journeys and his journey to Rome (in a few versions)
- A map on International Gateways of the Northeastern Mediterranean
- The Jerusalem Council
Atlas, by contrast, isn't a prose resource, and includes zoomable (not static) maps for biblical stories. It has about 35 maps covering the life of Paul, so the maps are more fine-grained. The Biblical Places Maps are more like a traditional atlas resource.
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