Does anyone have this and is it tagged with Barth's CD?

Milkman
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edited November 2024 in English Forum

Does anyone have this book and is it tagged with this one?

Karl Barth’s Church Dogmatics: An Introduction and Reader

Barth’s Church Dogmatics (31 vols.)

Or is there a "better(?)" Reader to Barth? Or even another Reader that would help to appreciate Barths' Dogmatics?

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have it, and yes it is tagged with links to CD.

    I don't know if there's a better reader. I haven't read this one or even any of CD.

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭

    Perfect. Thanks. Time to pick it up. Just saw Bloesch's Jesus is Victor! Karl Barth’s Doctrine of Salvation 

    Yeah I figured I'd wade into Barth slowly. I don't mind Bloesch. Picked up his (Bloesch) volumes at Regent back in the early 90's. My pastor (Kamloops) at that time was part of the executive at Carey and suggested DB. His two volume Essentials was a tad too philosophical for me (and even his 7 volume Christian Foundations) at that tender young age (spiritually) in my seminary years. Thought I, as a new grad had all my theological i's doted and t's crossed. Boy was I and still am so wrong [:$]

    Thanks again. 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Milkman said:

    Yeah I figured I'd wade into Barth slowly.

    The only exposure I've had to Barth was through my pastor Earl Palmer's regular references to him and quotes from his Dogmatics in Outline (not available in Logos, but I wish it were). Some of Earl's favorite quotes from it:

    "Tell me how it stands with your Christology, and I shall tell you who you are."

    "Christian faith is the gift of the meeting in which men [and women] become free to hear the word of grace which God has spoken in Jesus Christ in such a way that, in spite of all contradicts it, they may once and for all, exclusively and entirely, hold to his promise and guidance."

    "Here I am in front of you, like a teacher in Sunday school facing his kiddies, who has something to say which a mere four-year-old can really understand. 'The world was lost, but Christ was born, rejoice!'"

    Milkman said:

    at Regent back in the early 90's

    Did you study at Regent too? Cool! I might have known that at one time, but had forgotten.

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭

    No I went to the Canadian Southern Baptist Seminary in Cochrane and then we moved to Kamloops just after I graduated. We eventually landed at Southwest Community Baptist which was pastored by D. Harrison (Judy) at that time. Ken Nettleton took over after they left.

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭

    so Rosie? What r u doing now? In a church (para), saving the world or??

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Milkman said:

    so Rosie? What r u doing now? In a church (para), saving the world or??

    I'm in a church, though I'm not the pastor. It's a lay-run congregation, with no pastor or clergy or paid staff. It's all volunteers from within the congregation that do everything to run this church, including the preaching. I'm one of about 12-15 members of the congregation who take our turn once or twice a year, and the rest of the time we get guest preachers. It's a church of about 60, and has been around for 33 years, most of its life being run like this (except for the first two years). Just got back from the church retreat this weekend, where I led the worship service.

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭

    Very cool. Interesting idea about no "official" leadership - ie., pastors/elders etc. Thanks for the background. 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Milkman said:

    Very cool. Interesting idea about no "official" leadership - ie., pastors/elders etc. Thanks for the background. 

    Also, we're all kind of "in training" for ministry through mentorship and learning on the "job". We have a pastoral care team of four people who have been noted for their personal characteristics that would lend themselves to this kind of ministry. They look out in a more formal way for those in the congregation who are hurting, need a visit in the hospital, need prayer, etc. But we're all encouraged to care for each other pastorally as we are able. I feel more supported in this church than I ever did in a larger church that had multiple pastors. People know each other at a deeper level and are able to reach out with both practical and spiritual care, because we rely on each other.

    The de facto "elders" are those with many years of living the Christian life who have developed maturity and theological understanding, and we do kind of look up to them as our older brothers and sisters in the faith. But even the younger folks can share their wisdom which at times is quite profound. When I first found this church I was a little concerned that there was no hierarchy of elders and deacons or a pastor like previous churches I'd attended, but after being here for 20+ years now, I can see I've grown in the Lord more at this church than I ever would have at a church where all those things were being attended to by the people "in charge" without any need for me to step up to the plate now and then. It has been most stretching and enriching. I wouldn't trade it for the world now.