Discrepancies in Bible Word Studies: A How To Guide

Cris Deloach
Cris Deloach Member Posts: 1
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I was reading in Bible Word Studies: A How To Guide  in my Logos 8. This is the section in which I saw something that seems to not be right. I am sure I am missing something but I I don't know what. Here is the info that seems to be wrong:

"QUICKBIT
Yahweh Elohim is used 20 times in Gen 2–3. Otherwise, it only occurs 17 other times in the Old Testament, usually in poetry or prayers."

I did a search and found this particular arrangement 21 times in 2 Chronicles alone. Per this quote, which "Originally published in Bible Study Magazine Nov–Dec ’10" there should only be 17 instances of this found in the entire OT, outside of Genesis 2&3. I didn't count & validate any other instance, but there were a great many more to be seen in my search. I don't know where I should be asking this question, but it is a part of my Logos 8, so I am asking it here. Please redirect me to the appropriate place if this is not it. But I very much would like to know, why I am seeing a discrepency in the data given in this Logos book and what I find in my search?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,857

    But I very much would like to know, why I am seeing a discrepency in the data given in this Logos book and what I find in my search?

    As a Lexham Press book, I would understand the Lexham Hebrew Bible was used. And when you use the phrase "יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהִ֖ים" (with quotes), the results agree with the statement!  Results from BHS/WIVU and BHW 4.18 also agree. But results from BHS SESB 2.0 show 16 occurrences outside Gen 2-3.

    There are only 4 results in 2 Chron, so I think you searched for יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהִ֖ים  i.e. without quotes.

    Dave
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  • "QUICKBIT
    Yahweh Elohim is used 20 times in Gen 2–3. Otherwise, it only occurs 17 other times in the Old Testament, usually in poetry or prayers."

    I did a search and found this particular arrangement 21 times in 2 Chronicles alone. Per this quote, which "Originally published in Bible Study Magazine Nov–Dec ’10" there should only be 17 instances of this found in the entire OT, outside of Genesis 2&3. I didn't count & validate any other instance, but there were a great many more to be seen in my search. I don't know where I should be asking this question, but it is a part of my Logos 8, so I am asking it here.

    Welcome [:D]

    Concur QUICKBIT needs updating since Morph search of Lexham Hebrew Bible has results in 829 verses (with 19 in Genesis 2-3)

    lemma:יהוה BEFORE 1 WORD lemma:אֱלֹהִים@N??P

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • But I very much would like to know, why I am seeing a discrepency in the data given in this Logos book and what I find in my search?

    As a Lexham Press book, I would understand the Lexham Hebrew Bible was used.

    Morph Search for Absolute (no relationship to following noun) has results similar to QUICKBIT

    lemma:יהוה BEFORE 1 WORD lemma:אֱלֹהִים@N??PA

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,857

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Morph Search for Absolute (no relationship to following noun) has results similar to QUICKBIT

    Yes, but the construct still does not represent the Name "Yahweh Elohim" that is the subject of the QUICKBIT. Note the results for Josh 22:34, 1 Sam 6:20; where the article is present. Others have a preposition or conjunction.

    Dave
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