Names of Jesus
I am using the "Names of God" tool to identify all the names used for Jesus, but when I narrow to "Names of Jesus", I don't see "Lamb of God" from John 1:29. Am I doing something wrong?
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Looking at the Names of God tool and the Other References of the Information Panel, I believe that "lamb of God" is treated as figurative language rather than a proper name.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Looking at the Names of God tool and the Other References of the Information Panel, I believe that "lamb of God" is treated as figurative language rather than a proper name.
In that case, how do I locate all figurative language references to Jesus? Another example would be "Logos" in John 1.
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Westbury, Joshua R., Jeremy Thompson, Kristopher A. Lyle, and Jimmy Parks, eds. Lexham Figurative Language of the Bible Glossary. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2016. has some examples as does the Help file https://ref.ly/logosres/logos4help-verbum?hw=Searchable+Labels&off=12684&ctx=+mark+up+the+Bible.%0a~Figurative+Language%0a
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The Help File suggested {Section <flterm Jesus>}, which is helpful. <Person Jesus> is even closer to what I am looking for, but it includes a lot of "He", "His", "I", "Me", "of", etc. Help refining the search to filter out these pronouns would be helpful.
However, how do I limit the results to 1 per phrase? For example, currently Mt 8:20 yields 5 results which makes analyzing the results difficult.
I thought exporting to Excel would allow me to analyze the results, but hitting "Print/Export" on the Search Analysis yields a blank page...Is this a bug?
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Andrew said:
.Is this a bug?
Yes, you should be able to export. As for the rest, that's above what I am comfortable giving suggestions on. Mark or Dave may jump in with suggestions.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Looking at the Names of God tool and the Other References of the Information Panel, I believe that "lamb of God" is treated as figurative language rather than a proper name.
"Lord" in, for example, 1 Thessalonians 3:11 is also treated as figurative language {Section <FigurativeLanguageTerm = Jesus>}...Not sure why other Figurative Language wouldn't be included in the Names of God tool.
Also, I believe only "a" in "a great prophet" in Luke 7:16 is correctly labelled as {Section <FigurativeLanguageTerm = Jesus>}. Similar issue in Hebrews 2:17.
Revelation 1:13 & Revelation 14:14 search results should yield "a son of man" rather than just "a son".
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This query removes Pronouns, Verbs & Adjectives from results by only looking for Nouns:-
({Section <flterm Jesus>} OR <Person Jesus>) INTERSECTS <LogosMorphGr ~ N????>
For greater accuracy run this against a Greek bible (SBLGNT), as it will avoid the spurious results that come from an English bible with reverse interlinear e.g. Lk 22:41, Jn 2:25
Andrew said:"Lord" in, for example, 1 Thessalonians 3:11 is also treated as figurative language {Section <FigurativeLanguageTerm = Jesus>}...Not sure why other Figurative Language wouldn't be included in the Names of God tool.
EDIT: In this case, 1 Thess3.11, "lord" appears under Our Lord Jesus in the tool.
But, the documented Figurative Language search is a Label and <FigurativeLanguageTerm...> is used as an identifier in its syntax. {Section <FigurativeLanguageTerm...>} will produce more results than a constrained {Label Figurative Language...} search. I'm not sure what the tool uses.
Andrew said:I believe only "a" in "a great prophet" in Luke 7:16 is correctly labelled as {Section <FigurativeLanguageTerm = Jesus>}. Similar issue in Hebrews 2:17.
"Prophet" and "High Priest" are the only FL Terms for Jesus in a Greek bible. The "a" in an English bible is inserted for clarity and is associated with those nouns in a reverse interlinear.
Andrew said:Revelation 1:13 & Revelation 14:14 search results should yield "a son of man" rather than just "a son".
Agree
Dave
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I have compiled a list of suggested corrections to the {Section <FigurativeLanguageTerm = Jesus>} search results. I would be interested in any feedback related to the first 2 worksheets.
As highlighted on the second tab, I'm not sure why some prepositional phrases are split into separate "Results" while others are reported as a single, combined "Result".
6747.Bible Search for {Section _FigurativeLanguageTerm = Jesus_} - Suggested Corrections.xlsx
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Andrew said:
I have compiled a list of suggested corrections to the {Section <FigurativeLanguageTerm = Jesus>} search results.
You need to see how it is tagged in SBLGNT to understand some of the results in a translation with reverse interlinear, like LEB. Hebrews 12:2 suffers because of the alignment of words tagged in the Greek, where the phrase "the faith originator" is highlighted. Also see how alignment (and order) affects the ESV. This will negate many of the Changes and Other Results you have suggested. The tagging of Ro 8:39 could be improved, but that's my opinion.
Some will suffer because of words inserted for clarity in the translation e.g. 1 Cor 1:2;10:26, Jas 2:1 etc. (in Separated workbook).
Dave
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