Can I Convert PDF’s from iPad (iBooks) into Logos?
Seems like I have read about this somewhere on the forums (?). I have approx. 350 PDF’s that I would love to have in my Logos library—but as usual, I have no idea how to convert them.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
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MS WORD will convert them
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MS WORD will convert them
Thank you MJ—but, I am really unclear on the steps I would follow to get them over into my Logos library (?).
Apologies for being a bother ☺️—just not too technologically informed.
Will try to play w. WORD to see what I can achieve in the meantime👍.
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- Open MS Word
- Open PDF file in MS WORD
- Let MS WORD convert the file
- Save as a .docx file
- Open the .docx file and edit as necessary - I usually remove a chunk of the line breaks - pictures and logic equations often require special editing.
- Save
- Open Verbum
- Open Personal Book Tool
- Fill in all the heading stuff
- for the file portion, attach the .docx file from 6
- Compile the book
- Check that it looks okay
- Treat yourself to a nice cup of Chinese high mountain green tea.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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- Open MS Word
- Open PDF file in MS WORD
- Let MS WORD convert the file
- Save as a .docx file
- Open the .docx file and edit as necessary - I usually remove a chunk of the line breaks - pictures and logic equations often require special editing.
- Save
- Open Verbum
- Open Personal Book Tool
- Fill in all the heading stuff
- for the file portion, attach the .docx file from 6
- Compile the book
- Check that it looks okay
- Treat yourself to a nice cup of Chinese high mountain green tea.
Woo-Hoooo! Much appreciated👏🏼👏🏼.
On another note—I would like your thoughts on saving free PDF’s from this site:
https://it.b-ok2.org/book/2379275/31185b
They have an absolute ton of highly acclaimed academic resources, and I have already downloaded many of them onto my iPad & iPhone. Afterwards I got suspicious and sent this site to some minister friends who know more than I do about this kind of stuff. They told me that I should beware of malware/trojans/viruses...but I am unclear on how much of a danger this is for the mobile devices listed above (?).
I am wondering if I should offload them now—or is it too late? Hope I haven’t violated any forum policies by posting the link (admin., please feel free to delete this post of so👍).
Much appreciation—I have learned a lot from you and Denise.
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I am really unclear on the steps I would follow to get them over into my Logos library
Here are the steps:
- In Word, File-->Open, File Type: .PDF. Or from outside Word, right-click file and choose Open with... then Word XXX.
- Then, File--->Save As, File Type: Word .docx.
- In Word on the View tab, check Navigation view, then Headings in that view. This will let you see if any of the headings were brought over as Word Headings, and thus will become Logos TOC sidebar items.
- If you judge the headings insufficient, you can see if the obvious headings in the converted document have a pattern. Select the entirety of the first heading you see, then in the Home tab on the far-right side, choose Select-->Select text with similar formatting. Then, under the Home tab, find the heading style Heading 1 and click it. Check the Navigation panel and see how the headings changed. Undo if something goes really wrong. Sometimes heading have to be done manually, that is, select each heading separately and apply Heading 1 one at a time. As you might imagine, Heading 2, 3, etc., will make sub-headings in Logos; you would do the subs in the same way.
- MS Word will usually mark Greek words as Greek on its own if the document is in Unicode Text. Hebrew also, but I have had uneven results with Hebrew, likely due to my lack of knowledge. I think Latin would need to be manually marked, as it would be using the same font as English. What all this does is: it makes the Greek words either show a definition in the Info Window, or enable a double-click lexicon opening.
- After a few of these, you'll determine your balance between the trouble you're willing to go through versus the benefit you'll get. The Wiki in #8 below has info about tagging, etc. Most bible references will produce mouse-over and link to preferred bible automatically, but more elaborate tagging has to be done by the user.
- Save the file if everything is OK.
- See this Wiki page for the Logos steps: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/125368.aspx EDIT: https://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books
One final and sad note: the personal books do not sync to mobile apps or the web app.
macOS (Logos Pro - Beta) | Android 13 (Logos Stable)
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thanks Robert for taking the time to provide a more useful answer.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I am really unclear on the steps I would follow to get them over into my Logos library
Here are the steps:
- In Word, File-->Open, File Type: .PDF. Or from outside Word, right-click file and choose Open with... then Word XXX.
- Then, File--->Save As, File Type: Word .docx.
- In Word on the View tab, check Navigation view, then Headings in that view. This will let you see if any of the headings were brought over as Word Headings, and thus will become Logos TOC sidebar items.
- If you judge the headings insufficient, you can see if the obvious headings in the converted document have a pattern. Select the entirety of the first heading you see, then in the Home tab on the far-right side, choose Select-->Select text with similar formatting. Then, under the Home tab, find the heading style Heading 1 and click it. Check the Navigation panel and see how the headings changed. Undo if something goes really wrong. Sometimes heading have to be done manually, that is, select each heading separately and apply Heading 1 one at a time. As you might imagine, Heading 2, 3, etc., will make sub-headings in Logos; you would do the subs in the same way.
- MS Word will usually mark Greek words as Greek on its own if the document is in Unicode Text. Hebrew also, but I have had uneven results with Hebrew, likely due to my lack of knowledge. I think Latin would need to be manually marked, as it would be using the same font as English. What all this does is: it makes the Greek words either show a definition in the Info Window, or enable a double-click lexicon opening.
- After a few of these, you'll determine your balance between the trouble you're willing to go through versus the benefit you'll get. The Wiki in #8 below has info about tagging, etc. Most bible references will produce mouse-over and link to preferred bible automatically, but more elaborate tagging has to be done by the user.
- Save the file if everything is OK.
- See this Wiki page for the Logos steps: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/125368.aspx
One final and sad note: the personal books do not sync to mobile apps or the web app.
Ok, got it...excellent Robert. Thank you immensely👍. Will save this for future reference.
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Be sure to check my EDIT on the link; I had clipboard false memory syndrome.
macOS (Logos Pro - Beta) | Android 13 (Logos Stable)
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Woo-Hoooo! Much appreciated👏🏼👏🏼.
On another note—I would like your thoughts on saving free PDF’s from this site:
I have not heard of this site. Without knowing their relationships with the authors and publishers, I wonder if the site has permission to distribute copyrighted material.
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I have not heard of this site. Without knowing their relationships with the authors and publishers, I wonder if the site has permission to distribute copyrighted material.
Good question! How do we find out? Also not all PDF files will convert in Word as they do not have a text layer. That is they are just pictures of the text and require OCR work. [[Optical Character Recognition: Software that turns pictures of words into words]]
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Test site for pdf to word
Downloaded “The Messiah in the Old and New Testaments” by Stanley E. Porter
Opened PDF – some of the text looked weird! [[even when reading it as a pdf]]
Opened Word 2019 - opened PDF, took several minutes to load then clicked open for edit, took time to convert
Some of the text is text [[ie. Readable and can be edited]]
Some of the text is very poor pictures [[Can NOT be read]] [select one word, or try to, and delete deletes whole page - Is photo not text]
The PDF shows bleed through, that is the exposure used to photograph the original is too bright as you can see a hint of the other side's text.
It is not in good focus: the letters are blurred - not clear.
Tried feeding the PDF to my OCR, Readiris 17, and it gave up after page 15.
Good Luck. If you can not read the PDF you have already lost.
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I just remembered: I wrote a Word macro a while back that converts PDFs to .docx in batches. Just put all the PDFs in the same folder, click the button, then navigate to the folder. Docs will be in the same folder as the PDFs when it's finished. I have 64 bit Windows Word; it should also work on 32 bit. I'm not sure if it works on Mac MS Word.
You'll probably have to fire MS's macro nanny by choosing File-->Options-->Trust Center-->Trust center settings (button on right)-->Macro settings, then check Enable all macros, then OK and OK. To rehire the nanny, go back and check Disable all macros.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1weqh17o5qlwwji/Convert_PDF_Batch.zip?dl=0
This does Steps 1 & 2. It will likely choke out on the picture-PDFs David mentions above. These can usually be discerned by unusually large file sizes.
macOS (Logos Pro - Beta) | Android 13 (Logos Stable)
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Seems like I have read about this somewhere on the forums (?). I have approx. 350 PDF’s that I would love to have in my Logos library—but as usual, I have no idea how to convert them.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
for clarification: you posted this question in the mobile forum. Personal books cannot be viewed in the mobile app
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Seems like I have read about this somewhere on the forums (?). I have approx. 350 PDF’s that I would love to have in my Logos library—but as usual, I have no idea how to convert them.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
for clarification: you posted this question in the mobile forum. Personal books cannot be viewed in the mobile app
K—Thanks JT👍.
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Woo-Hoooo! Much appreciated👏🏼👏🏼.
On another note—I would like your thoughts on saving free PDF’s from this site:
I have not heard of this site. Without knowing their relationships with the authors and publishers, I wonder if the site has permission to distribute copyrighted material.
Right—this concerns me also. That is, even if my Apple products are safe from malware, etc.—then comes the ethics issue. Conversely, this is an unbelievable site w. cutting edge works—free!
Weighing it out, but they have Robert Alter’s Hebrew Translation & Commentary, much of AYB, NICOT & NICNT, etc. Unreal.
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Test site for pdf to word
Downloaded “The Messiah in the Old and New Testaments” by Stanley E. Porter
Opened PDF – some of the text looked weird! [[even when reading it as a pdf]]
Opened Word 2019 - opened PDF, took several minutes to load then clicked open for edit, took time to convert
Some of the text is text [[ie. Readable and can be edited]]
Some of the text is very poor pictures [[Can NOT be read]] [select one word, or try to, and delete deletes whole page - Is photo not text]
The PDF shows bleed through, that is the exposure used to photograph the original is too bright as you can see a hint of the other side's text.
It is not in good focus: the letters are blurred - not clear.
Tried feeding the PDF to my OCR, Readiris 17, and it gave up after page 15.
Good Luck. If you can not read the PDF you have already lost.
Thanks much David! Precisely what I was looking for. Quick question: Did you note anything fishy concerning malware, trojans, viruses, etc.?
My major concern now is that I don’t know whether to offload the books, or if it’s too late w. regard to malware—i.e., already infected (not even sure what signs to watch for?).
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I just remembered: I wrote a Word macro a while back that converts PDFs to .docx in batches. Just put all the PDFs in the same folder, click the button, then navigate to the folder. Docs will be in the same folder as the PDFs when it's finished. I have 64 bit Windows Word; it should also work on 32 bit. I'm not sure if it works on Mac MS Word.
You'll probably have to fire MS's macro nanny by choosing File-->Options-->Trust Center-->Trust center settings (button on right)-->Macro settings, then check Enable all macros, then OK and OK. To rehire the nanny, go back and check Disable all macros.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1weqh17o5qlwwji/Convert_PDF_Batch.zip?dl=0
This does Steps 1 & 2. It will likely choke out on the picture-PDFs David mentions above. These can usually be discerned by unusually large file sizes.
Ok, got it Robert. Awesome! Much appreciated.
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Good question! How do we find out?I have not heard of this site. Without knowing their relationships with the authors and publishers, I wonder if the site has permission to distribute copyrighted material.
Yes—would love to know how they’re doing this. Have a hard time believing Porter, Evans, Alter, etc. would just let them have their mammoth-recently-released works for free😳.
Conversely, Wowsie—what a compendium of bonafide scholarship.
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Quick question: Did you note anything fishy concerning malware, trojans, viruses, etc.?
There may be some malware from PDF files but have not heard warnings on the subject.
Then. I went looking and Found this warning
https://www.maketecheasier.com/malicious-pdf-files-you-should-not-open/
Do you know that a simple task such as opening PDF files can infect your computer with malware? This is a very common method used by hackers to install malicious software on your system and gain access to it.
Adobe Reader comes with support for javscript embedded in PDF file. Hackers can simply add malicious javascript code to the PDF file to exploit this vulnerability. When you open the PDF file, the malicious javascript get executed and install malware on your computer, all without you knowing it.
The question that remains here is how can you protect yourself from getting infected through this method? The answer to this question is pretty simple. As most of the PDF exploits the vulnerabilities using JavaScript, one way to protect your system would be to disable JavaScript on your PDF reader.The fix is to turn off Javascript
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On another note—I would like your thoughts on saving free PDF’s from this site:
That site is part of ZLibrary, which effectively ignores copyright. This is why they accept financial support only through cryptocurrency and Amazon giftcards.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Quick question: Did you note anything fishy concerning malware, trojans, viruses, etc.?
There may be some malware from PDF files but have not heard warnings on the subject.
Then. I went looking and Found this warning
https://www.maketecheasier.com/malicious-pdf-files-you-should-not-open/
Do you know that a simple task such as opening PDF files can infect your computer with malware? This is a very common method used by hackers to install malicious software on your system and gain access to it.
Adobe Reader comes with support for javscript embedded in PDF file. Hackers can simply add malicious javascript code to the PDF file to exploit this vulnerability. When you open the PDF file, the malicious javascript get executed and install malware on your computer, all without you knowing it.
The question that remains here is how can you protect yourself from getting infected through this method? The answer to this question is pretty simple. As most of the PDF exploits the vulnerabilities using JavaScript, one way to protect your system would be to disable JavaScript on your PDF reader.The fix is to turn off Javascript
Thank you David. Good to know.
Not to drag this thread out, but after reading your posts I downloaded McAffe security onto my iPad and iPhone. Not sure if it will pick up any existing malware or if hackers are even reading this since I’m posting from my iPad and hence are navigating around McAfee’s scans😳.So now, the question for me is would it help to offload the resources—or is it too late and effectively a waste since the damage is already done? Or, is there a high-powered reputable app. in Apple that will genuinely do an exhaustive search & removal for malware? If anyone knows of a high-powered anti-malware app. please let me know🙏🏼.
Regardless, I won’t be downloading any more sources from this site whatever the case may be...just too many red flags. They even have BDAG, NICOTTE, TDOT, NICOT, etc.! As the old adage says, if it‘s too good to be true....
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On another note—I would like your thoughts on saving free PDF’s from this site:
That site is part of ZLibrary, which effectively ignores copyright. This is why they accept financial support only through cryptocurrency and Amazon giftcards.
Which then leads me to an ethics issue. How can they do that? It this not illegal?
I have noticed that in order to download more than 5 books they want you to establish an account. Ummm, me-thinks not🙄!
Appreciate your input.
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