Does the Logos edition of Montanari, Franco. The Brill Dictionary of Ancient Greek. Leiden; Boston: Brill, 2015. Not have page numbers?? How can that be?
The recently shipped Greek Etymology Dictionary, and Greek Linguistics Encyclopedia both have pages numbers (and volume, where multiple). I wonder if the difference is in the publisher's digital file provided.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
Is there something we can do for Logos to fix that? It's sort of a bummer since it cannot be properly cited and, hence, used in academic writing.
Good question. Staff often don't appear, even for bugs.
I'm guessing, it's not intensional per se.
I have 23 greek lexicons and such. The semantic don't have pages numbers. Nor Rick's Analytic. But the rest do. Even the old ones that Logos dug up (eg Attic, Sophicles), pocket lexicons (!), other analytic, and of course the major academic (LS, BDAG, TDNT, TLNT, etc).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
I also find myself very frustrated with this resource. I am in the middle of writing my thesis, and because this digital resource lacks page numbers, it is almost worthless. In order for me to properly cite this resource, I have to provide a page number. This leaves me in the predicament that I either go on Amazon and buy a hard copy, or go to the library and look up over 50 words I'm citing.
Either of these options negate the purpose of buying it in Logos. I've spent a few hours on the phone today with people at level 1 and level 2 technical support, and after all that, I was told to submit a message only available within the program (which I did). It felt like I submitted my concern into a black hole. I'm writing here in hopes that someone within Logos will see this and dialogue with me on this.
I have page numbers in BDAG, LSJ, as well as numerous other resources. I'd like to respectfully request that Logos address this issue and implement a fix.
It's sort of a bummer since it cannot be properly cited and, hence, used in academic writing.
I don't think that's true (especially for such a work!) in its absolute phrasing. I understand that many style guides have explicit guidance for how to cite electronic works - up to the point that citing eBooks and Logos editions as if you had seen the paper copy may not acceptable. Other than that, many citations from works in the dictionary/lexicon genre would refer to the entry you consulted, not necessarily the page (or "column" as was often used back in the pre-electronic past over here when I did academic work).
IIRC Brill deliberately maintains a digital corpus for Montanari to allow updates. Hence, the Logos version is an analogue of that corpus.
To cite, you may have to dive into how e-works are referred to in your style guide. My down and dirty trick: s.v. (short for sub voce) could be a useful pointer.
Looks like you're right.
The recently shipped Greek Etymology Dictionary, and Greek Linguistics Encyclopedia both have pages numbers (and volume, where multiple). I wonder if the difference is in the publisher's digital file provided.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
Is there something we can do for Logos to fix that? It's sort of a bummer since it cannot be properly cited and, hence, used in academic writing.
Good question. Staff often don't appear, even for bugs.
I'm guessing, it's not intensional per se.
I have 23 greek lexicons and such. The semantic don't have pages numbers. Nor Rick's Analytic. But the rest do. Even the old ones that Logos dug up (eg Attic, Sophicles), pocket lexicons (!), other analytic, and of course the major academic (LS, BDAG, TDNT, TLNT, etc).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
Strictly speaking the files provided to us were the digital edition which has additional content not found in the print edition.
I'd prefer to add page numbers but when they don't necessarily align with the print edition it makes it difficult.
I also find myself very frustrated with this resource. I am in the middle of writing my thesis, and because this digital resource lacks page numbers, it is almost worthless. In order for me to properly cite this resource, I have to provide a page number. This leaves me in the predicament that I either go on Amazon and buy a hard copy, or go to the library and look up over 50 words I'm citing.
Either of these options negate the purpose of buying it in Logos. I've spent a few hours on the phone today with people at level 1 and level 2 technical support, and after all that, I was told to submit a message only available within the program (which I did). It felt like I submitted my concern into a black hole. I'm writing here in hopes that someone within Logos will see this and dialogue with me on this.
I have page numbers in BDAG, LSJ, as well as numerous other resources. I'd like to respectfully request that Logos address this issue and implement a fix.
I don't think that's true (especially for such a work!) in its absolute phrasing. I understand that many style guides have explicit guidance for how to cite electronic works - up to the point that citing eBooks and Logos editions as if you had seen the paper copy may not acceptable. Other than that, many citations from works in the dictionary/lexicon genre would refer to the entry you consulted, not necessarily the page (or "column" as was often used back in the pre-electronic past over here when I did academic work).
Have joy in the Lord!
IIRC Brill deliberately maintains a digital corpus for Montanari to allow updates. Hence, the Logos version is an analogue of that corpus.
To cite, you may have to dive into how e-works are referred to in your style guide. My down and dirty trick: s.v. (short for sub voce) could be a useful pointer.