Logos 9 Wishlist

1. Direct export from Logos word list to Logos visual filter — It is so helpful to make a visual filter from a word list in Logos. Currently though, if I want to do this I have to export the word list to Excel, copy that into Word, reformat using find and replace, copy the reformatted list, and paste into the visual filter. It would be amazing to streamline this process, especially given the potential overlap between these document types. 
2. Better copy/paste for Hebrew text — The text converter tool is fantastic, but I would love it if there was a way to customize the default copy/paste settings for Hebrew text especially (e.g. copy with vowels but not cantillation marks or copy consonants only).
3. Displaying translation and original language text when hovering over Bible references — I know that you can prioritize resources and thus choose which translation or original language text pops up when you hover over a reference, but I would love to be able to see both. If I’m remembering correctly, Bibleworks had this feature... 
4. Expanded morph search boundaries beyond a single verse — As it stands the WITHIN X WORDS or even AND search features are severely limited in morph search because the parameters are limited to a single verse. I wrote a previous post about this and learned that switching to a basic search is a sort of workaround, but then you lose functionality that is only available through the morph search. 
5. Dark mode on desktop app — I find reading in dark mode much easier on the eyes and would love to see this in Logos. It’s on the mobile app, please bring it to desktop. 
6. Better library organization — Maybe not everyone feels this way, but in my opinion all of the base packages are bloated with tons of resources that I never have and never will use. On top of this, the filter on the library pane is also bloated, making it rather tedious to explore the resources in my library. If I filter by type, 37 categories come up (and I'm sure that number is MUCH higher for the people with Platinum libraries). There has to be a more streamlined way to categorize and organize resources on the library pane. 

Automate my life with Logos' Google Assistant commands even better than YouVersion's: https://assistant.google.com/services/a/uid/0000002f01ed2122?hl=en-US [:)]

* Listen to Today's Reading Plan

* Lookup/Search commands

* Read Today's Prayer Requests

* Open Reference Scanner

* Open Book

* ...etc.

I would like to see, a specific workflow in the form of a Bible book survey. Perhaps charts for each one. Also, the workflow would break the book into segment divisions. Unless this can be done by way of other features that I am not aware of, as I am still getting to know all the different features for Logos 8. 

Here are some of my wishes for Logos 9:

Please make it so that Logos 9 will help us to study and read the Bible, and the other books in our libraries.  

* Bookmarks:   Easy, intuitive bookmarks, across all platforms.

* Reading Plans:  I would love it if our Bible reading plans would format the text like the old 1 Year Bibles.  When you go into a day's reading, import the text into "the daily reading" format stream.  When you get to the end of the day's reading, have the text stop.  If your Bible reading plan is reading from 4 different parts of the Bible, import the passages from all four into the format stream.  Do the same for the other books we are reading.  Have that on the desktop and the mobile app.

* Search: Create a search capability like Google or Bing.  Often times, I leave Logos and use Google to do searches for quotes and content.  That makes me wonder why I have invested so much in Logos, when I need to actually use another tool to get the information that I am looking for.  I wish I could search my library for content much easier, and have it formatted like a decent web browser.  And have it prioritize according to the prioritization set.   

* Opening Bibles:  I wish there was an option to open a Bible at the same place that you are reading in another Bible.  It used to be that if I was reading in the NASB, and I opened the NJB, it would open to the same passage that I was reading in the NASB.  That way, I would see the reading in another translation to compare.  Now it opens to the last place I was reading in the NJB.  Give us an option for the default opening positions on resources.  Make it global and local. 

* Homepage:  Please go back to the Logos 7 Homepage style.  I used to love going there.  There were better offerings there.  In Logos 8, it is clunky and less aesthetically appealing.  The only time I use the Logos 8 Homepage now is to look at the what the Lectionary Readings are. It is sad that it was so downgraded. 

* Lectionary:   Have a lectionary tool.  When you open it, it will provide a simple list of the days readings and feast/focus days from each of the lectionaries in your library with a link to open those readings.  Have this tool easily search by days, so that you can look forward to what is coming, and look at what was in the past.    

Thanks!

If possible, work with the publisher of the NKJV to update to match the Byzantine/Majority text base we now have; the old KJV (TR) was only based on a handful of MSS, but there are more Byzantine MSS sources now to update the NKJV in similar fashion to the other major MSS (Critical) family.  I had suggested this over the past 2 years to Nelson who was the owner then, but no response.  I've had to add the Byz textual variants myself and create a PBB Bible version, but would love to have the full Logos version of it!  

My Wish List 2.0:

FOLDERS in the SHORTCUT BAR, much like browsers permit folders in it's shortcut or bookmark bar.

USER TAGGING OF IMAGES. While Logos is far superior to other products when come to tagging images, there is still a TON of room for improvement. It would be wonderful if users could add personal or even community tags to images to improve search capabilities. I rely on Logos images every week for my Proclaim teaching presentations, and it would be very convenient if I could tag images in the same manner one can in Proclaim.

USER TAGGING OF VERSES OR PERICOPES.I realize we can add a note that has tags, but it would be a lot more convenient if we could add our own user tags to verses or passages. This, also, would improve search capabilities.

PARALLEL PERICOPE SEARCH MATCHING. There is probably a better name for this, but here's my vision: I am doing an image search for Peter’s profession of faith in Matthew 16:13-19. That brings up a few good images I can use for teaching. But, what about the parallel pericopes in Mark 8, Luke 9, John 6? Right now I have to re-execute the search for each of the related pericopes (unless I know each parallel passage ahead of time, and leverage the AND operator with all 4 verses individually listed).

I would be super dupity (spelling) nice if I could check a box next to the search parameter sections that would say "search the parallel pericopes" for my search passage. I realize there are some challenges to this option (IE it would be very difficult to match at the verse level), but there would be great value in providing this search option. The parallel passages data is already available in the harmonies, so it would just be a matter of tapping into that data and permitting access in the search set up.

PARALLEL THEME / TOPIC SEARCH MATCHING. Same concept as above. As I search for a term, perhaps I can choose from a list of similar concepts / themes in a drop down as I am setting up my search. Perhaps I am searching for preaching illustrations on "salvation." Maybe Logos could let me chose to also search for soteriology, justification, etc. I realize this would be a much more difficult undertaking, especially since the relationship between concepts is often subjective. But the functionality could be helpful.

MOBILE LAYOUTS ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS. I don't have the answer for this, but there HAS to be a better way to select a new layout on mobile. I love the concept and have just started to use and appreciate this feature. Yet there are tooooooooo many clicks necessary to select a layout or to update a layout.

Perhaps a drop down in the title bar, so we could have 1 click or 2 click access to a particular layout. Perhaps a layouts list under the favorites list? IDK. To me, it's rather counterproductive in its current access steps. I think many more would use and appreciate layouts if it were easier to access and switch between layouts, like they are on desktop (1 click access if on the shortcut bar; 2 click access from the layout menu). We should also be able to create and update a layout in the same manner - 1 or 2 clicks from the title bar or kabob menu.

FILTERING/SORTING OF SEARCH RESULTS. Often I shudder at the idea of having to use WordSearch. It's sooooo 20th century (early 20th century, LOL) in features, GUI, tagging, searching, etc. But it does have a few strengths other than it's wide variety of and early access to product offerings. One is the ability drill down on search results. Let's say you have searched all resources for <John 3:16>. For those results, you can click on particular collections, resource types, etc, to drill down and see results for that particular criteria. With Logos, this has to be done in the search, and the search has to be re-executed for each resource type / collection / etc. Not so with WS. Really neat feature.

CARTA. Oh, and my dream list would include CARTA. Yes, I know this is a product offering, not a feature. But I'll take any opportunity I can to ask for CARTA. [:D]

That....is...all....

DAL said:

Gotta give it to WORDsearch on this one, the graphics look great!

You're not making my day better. Especially, with the Palestine topos resource now in development.

DAL said:

Myke Harbuck,

WORDsearch is having another sale on the 22 volumes understanding __________ series from CARTA.  It released recently, so it kind of made me wonder that whatever  reason they give to not publish with Logos is just a lame excuse.  Gotta give it to WORDsearch on this one, the graphics look great!

DAL

Just makes no sense why Logos can't have Carta. UGH.

Dal, are the Carta graphics better in WS than Accordance? I was thinking you had Carta in Accordance.....

DAL said:

it kind of made me wonder that whatever  reason they give to not publish with Logos is just a lame excuse

I seriously doubt that Carta Jerusalem has to make lame excuses.

Perhaps licensing agreements would be based on the size of a business and the amount of sales they'd bring in? Maybe Carta Jerusalem might want something different from an agreement with FL, than one with other companies? I don't know.

Either way, we should probably be considerate and respect Carta Jerusalem's reasons. (Still hoping, though, for Carta in Logos!)

I have some of Carta's content in Accordance when I upgraded to Graphics Master. I am enjoying them. Logos users would enjoy them if it ever happens. My copies I'd just run in Accordance, but they are nice.

Dave

I think you need to be a lot more specific.  What would a better way to create reading plans look like?  What would a better map look like?

Larry

I agree with this, at least the first part.  don't know what dark mode is.

When I do my Bible reading, I keep my print Bible handy, and a lot of times I just read from my print Bible, because Logos moves around like a rusty machine that you push, and push, and push, and then it lurches forward a little.  The simple task of scrolling down a page is never a smooth operation.  It's always jumps and stalls.  Three attempts to get it moving and then it jumps ahead.

Larry Craig said:

I agree with this, at least the first part.  don't know what dark mode is.

Dark mode is available in mobile apps already.  It lets you set a black background with white font so that it's easier on your eyes when reading in the dark.

Ideally Logos would not only have a dark mode, but allow for each window to be set to different themes like their A competitor has been doing for awhile now.

Larry Craig said:

Dave

I think you need to be a lot more specific.  What would a better way to create reading plans look like?  What would a better map look like?

Larry

Thanks Larry you are right, it was as vague as a cloud :-) 

1) A better way to create custom reading plans. It would be lovely to be able to drag and drop chapters of the bible/book into a reading plan from contents pages. Also it would be really good to be able to drop more than one resource into a particular day so that a reading plan contains the content of several different resources (i.e. a bible chapter and then a corresponding section from a commentary and a bible dictionary section. This seems better than having several reading plans because it would allow me to read ahead or catch up a reading plan that I've programmed to take me though a particular study path. 

2) A relational database with the people in the bible linked together so I can move up and down a family tree rather than the static family trees we have at the moment. This would be great :-)

3) Better atlas/maps. It would be great to have one map with loads of filters instead of what appears to be loads of different maps - a bit like the timeline,  so we can overlay different periods in the bible concurrently.

Also 4)

It would be really useful to be able to hit one button(ish) and be able to see all the downloaded resources associated with mobile ed courses. I think a lot of us have moved to SSDs which have limited capacity and what little space I have left does get filled up with the automatically downloaded content. I do think the automatic download  is good - it means I can watch away from home, but if I forget to delete afterwards there doesn't appear to be an easy way to find out where the data is other than go though all of the courses I have and delete the data associated on the off chance I have forgotten to delete the data from that one :-) There has to be a simple solution to this that you could incorporate into the software. 

From a pastor's standpoint. Basically I would want the software to evolve in a way where it would be my main HUB for pastoral work. A few scattered thoughts on this

Notes and Sermon Editor still feel clunky at times, it would be nice to see them improve over time.

I like the prayer list feature, and have found it helpful in the past. Could we introduce a personal Agenda/Diary that would perhaps link/sync to mainstream calendar software (Google Calendar and Apple equivalent)?

As a pastor you want to remember important dates in your flock's life (death of loved ones, birthdays, marriage/conversion/baptism anniversaries, etc.), maybe record previous pastoral visits notes (dates when you visited, favourite hymns, favourite bible passages) and other important info to keep in mind.

I know you can use the notes document for this (create a separate notebook for each member or something like that)...but...

Would be nice to have a specialized tool that would allow us to quickly pull up a "members file" and look over it in an instant, it would be awesome to have this synced up with the calendar/diary tool and have the Logos App remind you to give a call to that member in a special date.

I realize that many Logos users are not pastors, but then again, many are not preachers as well and the Sermon App is a thing. 

These are just ideas, but would really like to see Logos developing towards becoming a Pastoral Hub kind of App as well

Graham Criddle said:

Fábio Silva said:

As a pastor you want to remember important dates in your flock's life (death of loved ones, birthdays, marriage/conversion/baptism anniversaries, etc.), maybe record previous pastoral visits notes (dates when you visited, favourite hymns, favourite bible passages) and other important info to keep in mind.

Faithlife recognises the need for these sorts of tools and are making this type of functionality available through their Ministry Tracker - https://www.ministrytracker.com/features - suite. You might want to look at this and see if it addresses your needs.

This is discussed in more detail at https://faithlife.com/ministry-tracker

Seems interesting, thank you.

The price is certainly prohibitive for me, I would just want to have the convenience of having a feature on Logos do that and not have to pay a 50$ monthly price for a calendar and a basic database that is easy to codify into any software (that's what I would be using it for basically)

Have the verse you are reading highlighted to make it easier to read and follow. When you scroll your mouse wheel, have the highlighting jump to the next verse, etc.

Blessings

I hope FL realizes that in some countries privacy protection is quite strong and its illegal to collect data registers about people without permission, before they make this kind of tool.

OR, this may be a better option - a playlist of 77 audio videos
https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLk3PwQOcbBq2BdO967B5SqAWr6GyDESwe

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but it has to do with Workflows. I like the idea of the WF, and I like that it places the responses in the Notes tool. However, I really do not like how many notes some out of each WF and that there is a stack of notes on the anchor. For example, when I do a WF on a specific anchor text, I will have like 10 notes associated with that anchor text, and when I hover over them, it looks rather jumbled because I am answering specific questions (which do not appear in the note). 

I guess maybe a better way to get around this is for there to be a different view for the WF responses, or maybe in the Notes Tool to be able to have the ability to create Folders, within Folders, or possibly make the WF responses a completely different tool; and maybe make it so that the responses would turn up in the guides as their own section, I don't know. Regardless, I find the multiple notes that are a result of a WF rather annoying. 

Would like to be able to sync new and updated resources without loading the client, such as through the indexer...

Location system for academic citations for resources without page numbers. It could be similar to the Kindle locations, which many authors already use for citations.

https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-8/suggestions/39831691-locations-for-academic-citation-like-kindle-locat

For L9

This example is from LA181 Learn to Use Biblical Greek but may apply elsewhere as well.

At the end of a lesson, a locked resource is encountered:

Click on the padlock takes you to:

Rather than one more (time-consuming) distraction for the lesson, this needs "Add to Wishlist" button.

The Wishlist would categorize these items according to each course for later review.