What is in Worship Initiative Essentials?
I see on Facebook a link to a Base Package promoted by musicians Shane & Shane. - https://www.logos.com/worshipinitiative
My price is significantly less than the $99.95 published price for a package valued at $1399.19. I assume my discounted price is due to dynamic pricing, but I can't find any link on the page above (or any mention of this package when I search logos.com website). Does anybody have a link to the resources included?
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Yes, we need a link to the resources included in this Bundle...
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Just $6 for me. It would be interesting indeed to know what's included.
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$6.02 for me....bought it, nothing downloaded, so probably something I had free use of.
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Politicians have tried to tell us "we have to pass the bill to know what's in the bill." I hope Faithlife is not moving toward "we have to buy the resource to know what's in the resource"! Even though I could purchase then return within 30 days if I'm not pleased, I would prefer to know in advance. Charges and credits on expense reports create unnecessary work for auditors.
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Interestingly, having bought Essentials, I cannot buy the Bundle. (I didn't want, was just checking)
It just says one or more items you own removed from cart.
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Yeah, it annoys me too when there isn't a list of resources. [:s]
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Kevin said:
$6.02 for me....bought it, nothing downloaded, so probably something I had free use of.
It's the exact same price as for me. Glad I didn't purchase it.
Edit: here's the original FB post: https://www.facebook.com/theworshipinitiative/posts/2741339735913068
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Aside from the subscription, the price was $0 for me. So, nothing I don’t already have.
DAL
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Hi all,
This is a special package created in partnership with Shane and Shane, the creators of the Worship Initiative program, for their Worship Initiative conference. As you can guess, this page wasn't necessarily meant to be public facing outside of Worship Initiative users and conference attendees. As such, we have no normal product pages for these resources, so there is no way to drill down into the individual resources on offer (because that was never the intention of this product or this page).
However, feel free to purchase! And if you're a worship leader (or know someone who is), the bundle with the year-long Worship Initiative program is an excellent deal!
Do note, however, that these packages can and will be pulled down at any point during the next few weeks.
Product Manager, Faithlife
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Hi all,
This is a special package created in partnership with Shane and Shane, the creators of the Worship Initiative program, for their Worship Initiative conference. As you can guess, this page wasn't necessarily meant to be public facing outside of Worship Initiative users and conference attendees. As such, we have no normal product pages for these resources, so there is no way to drill down into the individual resources on offer (because that was never the intention of this product or this page).
However, feel free to purchase! And if you're a worship leader (or know someone who is), the bundle with the year-long Worship Initiative program is an excellent deal!
Do note, however, that these packages can and will be pulled down at any point during the next few weeks.
Looks like taking inspiration from "Storage Hunters"!!
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DAL said:
Aside from the subscription, the price was $0 for me. So, nothing I don’t already have.
DAL
Same here... it removes it from my cart and says I own it already. I'd shoot it out to my friends who don't have Logos but I'm not going to send them something worth $99 and not tell them what's in it. Nice of FL to extend it to us as well though.
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I finally bit at the $24.98 dynamic price. The only thing I received were the 6 volumes of Treasury of David Commentary by Spurgeon [that I already have in Dead Tree format that I literally have only opened once in 30 years]. This one is going back.
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David Thomas said:
I finally bit at the $24.98 dynamic price. The only thing I received were the 6 volumes of Treasury of David Commentary by Spurgeon [that I already have in Dead Tree format that I literally have only opened once in 30 years]. This one is going back.
Free elsewhere too.
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But for $6, I'm tempted now.
I still need to ask the worship guys at church whether they are interested in that subscription, as I understand, once I buy the package, the bundle will no longer be an option. And I doubt anyone else of them will have the bundle at a price even close to $6.
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Dynamic pricing effects the worship initiative bundle as well. For just the base package, my price is $22, and for the bundle (with subscription), it's $45.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Jonathan Bradley said:
Dynamic pricing effects the worship initiative bundle as well. For just the base package, my price is $22, and for the bundle (with subscription), it's $45.
Well that seems like an error.
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Kevin said:Jonathan Bradley said:
Dynamic pricing effects the worship initiative bundle as well. For just the base package, my price is $22, and for the bundle (with subscription), it's $45.
Well that seems like an error.
Thanks all, I took a look at the price and made an adjustment that fixed it.
Thanks for pointing it out!
Product Manager, Faithlife
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Nothing you have said is reason for not providing a list of included resources for the intended target audience of the package. It is not an excuse for FL for not doing proper diligence and providing potential purchasers of the product with this information. It smells like a company piggy backing onto another organisation to try and generate some sales without putting in the work that should be done in order to earn those sales. FL has well and truly lost its way and I wonder if anyone is actually piloting the ship anymore.
Hi all,
This is a special package created in partnership with Shane and Shane, the creators of the Worship Initiative program, for their Worship Initiative conference. As you can guess, this page wasn't necessarily meant to be public facing outside of Worship Initiative users and conference attendees. As such, we have no normal product pages for these resources, so there is no way to drill down into the individual resources on offer (because that was never the intention of this product or this page).
However, feel free to purchase! And if you're a worship leader (or know someone who is), the bundle with the year-long Worship Initiative program is an excellent deal!
Do note, however, that these packages can and will be pulled down at any point during the next few weeks.
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DIsciple II said:
Nothing you have said is reason for not providing a list of included resources for the intended target audience of the package. It is not an excuse for FL for not doing proper diligence and providing potential purchasers of the product with this information. It smells like a company piggy backing onto another organisation to try and generate some sales without putting in the work that should be done in order to earn those sales. FL has well and truly lost its way and I wonder if anyone is actually piloting the ship anymore.
I'm not sure I would come down this hard myself, but it does seem like they could probably type out the list and post it here in about five minutes total...
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Jason Harris said:DIsciple II said:
Nothing you have said is reason for not providing a list of included resources for the intended target audience of the package. It is not an excuse for FL for not doing proper diligence and providing potential purchasers of the product with this information. It smells like a company piggy backing onto another organisation to try and generate some sales without putting in the work that should be done in order to earn those sales. FL has well and truly lost its way and I wonder if anyone is actually piloting the ship anymore.
I'm not sure I would come down this hard myself, but it does seem like they could probably type out the list and post it here in about five minutes total...
If this was a one off occasion I'd agree with you Jason, but it is not one off, this is a recurring pattern of behaviour from FL with these one off packages that is not acceptable and deserves to be called out for what it is and is not.
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I got Osbourne's "Colossians & Philemon, Verse by Verse."
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