Please help constructing this search ...

Member Posts: 147 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Hello everyone and thank you so long for your help.

I need to get all texts in the NT where people, the faithful, brothers and sisters, as urged/commanded to help one another, to be servants of one another.

I constructed this with no results:

(serve, serving, help, <Lemma = lbs/el/δοῦλος>, <Sense servant>) INTERSECT <Lemma = lbs/el/ἀδελφός>

Please advise where I made a mistake or what I need to change. (This is by far the most difficult search I have ever done.)

Thank you, Brothers and Sisters.

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  • MVP Posts: 33,247

    What you are trying to do is quite difficult!

    Two problems with your specific search:

    • You need INTERSECTS and not INTERSECT
    • You are assuming that all the terms intersect with the lemma adelphos - which I don't believe is the case

    One of the examples of this type of action is Gal 5:13, and examining that verse shows that the sense is "to serve (servanthood)" and it is a directive

    Combining those gives the search string <Sense = to serve (servanthood)> INTERSECTS {Section <SpeechAct = Oblig: Direct>} which might provide some pointers to get started.

  • Member Posts: 147 ✭✭

    Thanks Graham.

    I was using "believers" in Acts 1:15 to use as a sort of "collective" for christians. Believers was the word used for adelfoi.

    I need to learn much, much more about using the different search terms, like what you have used {Section <SpeechAct = Oblig: Direct>}

    I understand the left side of the search term but to the right, {Section <SpeechAct = Oblig: Direct>} I want to search for tutorials on this. What is it called so I can search on this? I have just searched on Wiki.Logos and SpeechAct was not found.

    Thank you once again. Deon

  • MVP Posts: 33,247

    {Section <SpeechAct = Oblig: Direct>} I want to search for tutorials on this

    I haven't seen much on this - https://community.logos.com/forums/t/129247.aspx is the announcement and the post does point to the associated documentation.

  • Member Posts: 147 ✭✭

    Thanks Graham. I see that I have a lot to learn.

  • Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,489

    You need INTERSECTS and not INTERSECT

    Actually, INTERSECT works just fine:

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • MVP Posts: 33,247

    Thanks Andrew, I did not know that.

    Deon, apologies for the misinformation

  • I need to get all texts in the NT where people, the faithful, brothers and sisters, as urged/commanded to help one another, to be servants of one another.

    Proximity search idea is Who near What: e.g. Who (Person OR reflexive pronoun) WITHIN 5 WORDS What (Love, Care, Honor have many Senses so this search could be expanded): (Sense search does not have = so children of Sense term are included in search results)

    (<Sense person> OR <LN 92.26>) WITHIN 5 WORDS (<Sense familially loving> OR <Sense honor (state)> OR <Sense to care> OR <Sense to love (care)> OR <Sense to share (partake)> OR <Sense to support (emotional)>)

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