ACCS v The Church's Bible
The commentary on 1 Corinthians in The Church's Bible series is on sale for a whopping 85% off.
www.verbum.com/product/50132/1-corinthians-interpreted-by-early-christian-commentators
Can anyone tell me how this commentary series compares to and/or differs from the Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture series?
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While you're waiting for a real answer, I'd think separate uses (ie 'both'). ACCS is a snippet verse level tool. I keep it in both my OT layout, and my NT layout (the fathers commented on both). CB is a big-chunk in-depth sort of tool. For me, it'd be like my other commentaries, when I'm wanting a deeper look.
Thank you for the heads-up ... I purchased.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Thanks Denise, that's very helpful. I've taken the plunge.
Every blessing.
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Just quickly looking at several passages (eg Origen ch13), I like the feature of italics, where there's a definite or likely reference/quote in-use.
A while back, Milkman wanted something that charted church doctrine on topics. I wonder if this would work. Ooops. Only 4 volumes so far. Romans might also be good.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Can someone confirm if this is a commentary or a monograph?
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John, I'm on my ipad (no info on type). But menuing is by verse, and my links to NABRE work fine; both directions. Just a quick answer.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Thanks Denise... sounds like a commentary.
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Denise said:
Only 4 volumes so far. Romans might also be good.
There are also two other volumes available (on John and Matthew). I'm partial to the John volume myself.
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John Fidel said:
Thanks Denise... sounds like a commentary.
Yes - resource type is "Bible Commentary"
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Thanks Kevin.
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Kevin Clemens said:
There are also two other volumes available (on John and Matthew). I'm partial to the John volume myself.
Well, that's good! Thank you, Kevin.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:Kevin Clemens said:
There are also two other volumes available (on John and Matthew). I'm partial to the John volume myself.
Well, that's good! Thank you, Kevin.
Wow $91 bucks for both! I think I’ll just get the cheap one for now 😳
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I don't recall what volumes I might have already had but I picked up an Anglican Platinum upgrade for very little about two weeks ago and all the CB volumes are in it.
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Does this mean that all these commentaries are excerpts from the church fathers but just organized so I don’t have to look for the comments myself?
DAL
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DAL said:
Does this mean that all these commentaries are excerpts from the church fathers but just organized so I don’t have to look for the comments myself?
Basically. There is also a brief summary of general patterns in interpretation at the head of each section (blue box below) which can be helpful for a quick overview of what particular authors had to say about a passage.
For any given passage, there are usually a handful of different authors (red box below). Again, the excerpts in The Church's Bible tend to be much longer than ACCS and thus have much more context.
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mab said:
I don't recall what volumes I might have already had but I picked up an Anglican Platinum upgrade for very little about two weeks ago and all the CB volumes are in it.
This was how I also acquired these last year (Although now this upgrade for the Mt & Jn volumes are also available in Verbum Ordinariate Gold, which may be a cheaper route for some).
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Thanks, Kevin!
But if I own church fathers protestant and catholic editions and ACC do I really need the church’s Bible? I guess I should’ve rephrased my question.
Thanks!
DAL
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DAL said:
do I really need the church’s Bible?
Need?? From my layouts, and enjoying 1 Cor, I'd say no. But only because, in addition to my ACCS tabs in my layout, I keep a CitedBy to church fathers next tab. Now, if each volume were $8, the answer would be different. CB seems a nice lazy read, not straying too fars from the big-boys.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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The Church Fathers can be viewed as a never ending pit, or a rich well. While the 19th century "Early Church Fathers" set does have many important Patristics texts, it also has weaknesses - as does any collection, Personally I am glad I picked up https://www.logos.com/product/55222/st-jerome-origen-commentary-on-isaiah-origen-homilies-1-9-on-isaiah for ten bucks last month...
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DAL said:
Thanks, Kevin!
But if I own church fathers protestant and catholic editions and ACC do I really need the church’s Bible? I guess I should’ve rephrased my question.
DAL
DAL - I would say it depends how much coverage of the Church Fathers you want in translation. The Church's Bible has some selections that are only found in English in the CUA Fathers of the Church series, or only in the Ancient Christian Writers, or only in the Ancient Christian Texts...
...or not found elsewhere in translation anywhere else at all. I remember Prof. Stewart (who edited the John volume) tell us that the excerpts from John Scotus Eriugena had never been translated into English for publication before. Such is very author specific.
There is an index at the end of each volume that identifies the sources of all excerpts. These are linked to parallel resources in Logos/Verbum if available. Some are not linked, but this does not always indicate that another translation does not exist (for instance, Origen's Commentary on John below - this is available in the CUA FC series).
I guess it comes down to how much time you spend in the Church Fathers and how expansive you want that portion of your library to be. For me, it's a primary area of interest and research, so I try to maximize my holdings in Patristic texts in Verbum as much as I can. Hope this helps!
-Kevin
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Thanks everyone! I will check out the 1 Corinthians volume and take it from there. I can get all the volumes available for $68 and more in the Anglican Gold BP. So $68 seems reasonable for some new content and other stuff that will get added to my library 👍😁👌
DAL
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I just bought the Anglican Gold BP for $68 and it got me all the church Bible volumes available in Logos and 80 other resources. Great bargain!
DAL
Ps. I may have to chat with a CS to inquire about the free L8 training courses. Too many upgrades and no incentive doesn’t seem quite right, unless different rules apply, which according to some the rules are not clear either. Anyway, the material is great and easy to follow 👍😁👌
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