Please help me with my search string

I forgot to paste the string. [:$]

<Lemma = lbs/he/צום>", <Sense fast (religious)>, <Lemma = lbs/el/νηστεία>, {Section <Culture Fasting>}

This search offered 50 results:

<Lemma = lbs/he/צום>, <Lemma = lbs/el/νηστεία>, <Sense = fast (religious)> ANDNOT <Sense = hunger>

This one resulted in 67 results:

<Lemma = lbs/he/צום>, <Lemma = lbs/el/νηστεία>, <Sense = fast (religious)>, {Section <Culture Fasting>} ANDNOT <Sense = hunger>

Still don't understand why the first one does not work.

How would you have done it? Maybe it will be good to differentiate between 1.) when God commanded them to do it and 2.) when it was commanded by someone else, in other words, not a religious fast but more cultural or because someone died.

I don't want to use a Topic search on Fasting as I want to familiarise myself on how to use the different/correct search options.

Thanks so long.

Graham Criddle said:

The problem is with the double quotation mark after the first search term. If you remove it you get the results I think you are expecting. (And I don't know why that mark has that particular affect!)

Thank you. I need to focus.

That's an interesting idea - but when I tried a Clause Search with subject:god  verb-lemma:צום I got no results. It is as though there aren't occurrences when God is the subject of that verb. (Same things happens if I try a sense-based clause search)

Can this mean that God did not ever instructed Israel or whoever to fast? I could only find that the command was to fast during the atonement. The only verse I found was Lev 23:26-32. I will study this verse further. EDIT: I only notice now that "fast" is not used in the NIV or ESV, but afflict. The Afrikaans translation used "fast". This becomes very interesting.

I have just found Joel 2:12 where it looks as if God commanded a fast. I will study further.

Thank you once again for helping me out.

Graham Criddle said:

So an interesting search is (<Lemma = lbs/he/צום>, <Lemma = lbs/he/צוֹם>) INTERSECTS {Speaker <Person God>} - where I am using two different lemmas used for fasting which gives some useful results

Thank you very much, Graham. I missed the search of the ROOT, but I have a great teacher,

I expanded the search a little bit: <Lemma = lbs/he/צום>, <Lemma = lbs/he/צוֹם>, <Lemma = lbs/el/νηστεία>, <Sense = fast (religious)> ANDNOT <Sense = hunger> INTERSECTS {Speaker <Person God>}

How do I tell my search to look for the 3 different Lemmas where is was used in the "Imperative" form?

I noticed DOTS in my search result. What do they mean?

Thank you once again.
Deon

Graham Criddle said:

Dots in this type of context indicate that the underlying original language term has not been translated.

Looking at the reverse interlinear for Zech 8 you can see that the word for "fast" actually appears for each month but is only translated once. Because that is the term you are searching for it appears in the results but as it isn't translated a dot is shown

Thank you Graham. I noticed it but was not sure how to interpret it.

Thank you once again.

Thank you Graham.

I have studied Morph searching on the video series I bought last year but need to pick it up again.