Thanks for the sale, @FL!
However, I suspect you've forgotten to actually apply the sale prices
"Memorial"..."forgotten"...pretty sure there is a pun in there somewhere. [H]
Hey Jan, might be better if you post this in anything other than general. Thanks
Rest in Peace, gone, but not forgotten.
Link? Doesn't appear on the front page yet.
Any particular reason why it should be posted in a different category? I have the impression that "general" is by far the most active one.
It's advertised on the blog.
https://blog.logos.com/2020/05/massive-memorial-day-sale-25-off-story-of-god-commentary-more/
Perhaps that is because it is not yet 10:00am PDT [^o)]
Thanks for the sale, @FL! However, I suspect you've forgotten to actually apply the sale prices
The blog you referred to says it is from May 21st onwards. Maybe they just follow their relatively new idea of starting a sale on 10.00 a.m. Bellingham Time - this is 7.00 p.m. over here in Europe and still has more than three hours to go - which doesn't require the pages to be fully functional "a day before" the sale to accommodate our Australian friends and helps the Logos people working from home or from the office to have a cup of coffee and open eyes prior to setting it live.
Jack, you just type a concise and fast message while I'm convoluting things... [:)]
Jack, you just type a concise and fast message while I'm convoluting things...
Ah, but your answer was more complete and did not require additional knowledge [:P]
I guess we just have to be patient to see the prices reduced. The Logos world revolves around Bellingham time. [:)]
The Logos world revolves around Bellingham time.
Just west of Tulsa time.
"Livin' on Tulsa timeLivin' on Tulsa timeWell, you'll know I been through itWhen I set my watch back to itLivin' on Tulsa Time."
I don’t see any discounts yet.
DAL
The prices are there now, but who has time to scroll through 20,257 Results???!!!!
This is where wishlists come in useful.
Right forum, wrong reason.
Your question was "general" and not specific to any software, so you did right to post here. I am unsure why Matthew thinks otherwise. The "general" forum is the most active one, but if a question / topic relates to a subforum, it is better to post there so that the right people see it. For example, if someone needs help with the mobile apps, it is more likely that those who help with the mobile apps (both volunteer and employees) will see it there. Plus, by doing so, it helps to keep things organized.
Only to then discover that the only items you are interested in aren't discounted!
Not a bad sale! I got a few things that I don't remember seeing on sale before so I'm happy ... agree w/ the wishlist use. I have tons of books on there and I just check every now and then for sales. My only complaint is that you can't sort your wishlist by savings... only price
Same here. I need two expensive books for class, but no academic discount, and no sale discount. Ah well...
Only to then discover that the only items you are interested in aren't discounted! Same here. I need two expensive books for class, but no academic discount, and no sale discount. Ah well...
Nothing in my priority wishlist. Only stuff in my low priority/buy when 50% off or more lists. Great sale for many though I'm sure.
Wasted time. Started with collections, but couldn't tell what was new to me. Pass.
Maybe if they had offered the king and his beauty by Schreiner at a decent discount I would’ve bought it. Maybe “Since all people are children of the serpent by nature” that’s why we didn’t get a discount on this one...😂😂😂 Yep, that’s a quote from the book. I wanted to analyze it more, but I’ll wait for a good sale.
Thousand thanks! My wishlist is now shorter!
But no time to read yet [:$]
If anyone is an MP Seminar fan, this book is part of the 25% off. Morris recommended it highly and I don't think I've seen it on sale before... could have missed it though
https://www.logos.com/product/392/the-training-of-the-twelve
Maybe if they had offered the king and his beauty by Schreiner at a decent discount I would’ve bought it. Maybe “Since all people are children of the serpent by nature” that’s why we didn’t get a discount on this one...😂😂😂 Yep, that’s a quote from the book. I wanted to analyze it more, but I’ll wait for a good sale. DAL
I put your quote in bold; see pericope
The Promise for New Generations
The Genesis narrative continues to focus on the promise of children, though the entirety of the covenant made with Abraham is confirmed to Isaac: offspring, land, and universal blessing (26:3–4). The offspring of the woman (Isaac) was now one man against the world, and the question is whether godly children would survive in a world where the offspring of the serpent desired to annihilate them. The first challenge for Isaac was to find a wife who worshiped the Lord, for if Isaac married a woman who turned his heart and the heart of his children away from the Lord, the promise of future salvation through Abraham’s children would be nullified. Hence, Gen. 24 recounts the narrative of how Abraham’s servant found a wife (Rebekah) from Abraham’s relatives instead of from the Canaanites. Thereby the purity of the line of promise was preserved. Nevertheless, the integrity of the family was compromised when Isaac, like Abraham, lied about whether Rebekah was his wife so that she was taken into Abimelech’s harem (26:7). The Lord showed favor to Isaac just as he did to Abraham, for when Abimelech realized that Rebekah was married to Isaac, God threatened anyone who would violate their union with death (26:8–11). The promise was also endangered because Rebekah, like Sarah, was barren. But the Lord, in response to Isaac’s prayer, granted Rebekah children (25:21). The promised offspring survived only by the intervention of God, underlining the truth that the Lord graciously fulfills what he has pledged.
Nor was the fulfillment of the promise dependent merely on Isaac and Rebekah producing children. For the children of Isaac and Rebekah were not necessarily the offspring of the woman merely because they were their physical children. Esau and Jacob were the twin children of Isaac and Rebekah, and one would expect that the promise would be transmitted through the older son (Esau). The Lord prophesied, however, that the older son would serve the younger (25:23). Paul, in commenting on the choice of Jacob, highlights God’s election (Rom. 9:11–13). The choice of Jacob could not be ascribed to Jacob’s virtue or moral heroism; rather, it finds its roots in the grace and election of God. Jacob’s deception and manipulation verify his moral impoverishment, confirming Paul’s reading. Since all people are children of the serpent by nature, the promise of victory over the serpent will become a reality only by virtue of God’s mercy. Esau’s casual disregard for his birthright demonstrated that he was not a son of the promise (Gen. 25:29–34), for it is almost inconceivable that he would give it up for the sake of one lunch (Heb. 12:16). The mystery of God’s sovereignty in choosing Jacob is relayed in the story of the blessing, for Rebekah and Jacob shamefully conspired together so that Jacob, rather than Esau, would receive the blessing from Isaac (27:1–40). Despite (not because of!) their machinations, the Lord granted the blessing to Jacob rather than Esau.
Immediately, God’s promise was in peril, for Esau was enraged and vowed to kill Jacob (27:41). But as the people of God flee from Satan into the wilderness (Rev. 12:14), so Jacob fled from Esau and traveled to his relatives in Haran (Gen. 27:42–46). Jacob’s life was preserved, and unlike Esau, he did not intermarry with Hittite women who worshiped false gods (27:46). Esau’s murderous intentions became the means by which Jacob would marry women who were devoted to the Lord, so that the parents of the children to come were devoted to Yahweh. As Jacob traveled to Haran to escape from Esau, the Lord met him at Bethel and confirmed to him the promise of Abraham: land, offspring, and universal blessing (28:13–15).120 As Rolf Rendtorff says, “When Jacob has experienced the most devastating bankruptcy, when all seems lost and blessing seems to have turned to a curse, God adds his blessing to him.”121 There is no need to linger over the details of Jacob’s marriages to Leah and to Rachel. The promise was no longer limited to just one son; all twelve of Jacob’s sons were recipients of the promise. Hence, the promise of many offspring began to be fulfilled as Jacob’s children multiplied.
Threats to the preservation of Jacob’s children continued. Jacob left Laban without notice because the tension and the strife between them were constant. When Laban discovered that Jacob had left and overtook Jacob, he intended to inflict harm upon Jacob and his family (chap. 31). God warned Laban, however, to refrain from injuring Jacob, implying that if Laban did so, he would be severely punished (31:24, 29). Jacob’s fears were not ended, however, for immediately after he left Laban, reports arrived that Esau was riding to meet him with four hundred men (32:6–7). Naturally, Jacob was afraid, for the last thing he had heard from Esau was that his brother wanted to kill him, and hence he prayed earnestly to the Lord for deliverance (32:11). Jacob’s wrestling with God and prevailing is a significant moment in his life, for his name is changed to “Israel” (32:24–30). As Dempster says, this means that he “will be God’s conquering warrior in the earth.”122 Such a name change verifies that victory over the serpent will come through the one who is named “Israel.” And Jacob’s prayer for protection was answered, for Esau did not come for war but to renew their friendship (chap. 33).
Another threat to the promise loomed on the horizon. Shechem the son of Hamor from the Shechemites was smitten with Dinah and raped her, prevailing upon his father to work out an arrangement by which he could marry her (34:1–4). Why is this rather strange story included? If the Israelites intermarried with the Shechemites, the children of Jacob would lose their purity because of uniting with people who worshiped other gods. Hence, the children of the serpent would triumph over and overwhelm the children of the woman. Ironically, the means by which Israel was protected from intermarriage involved subterfuge and murder, for Jacob’s sons persuaded all the Shechemite males to submit to circumcision before they would agree to intermarry (chap. 34). After the surgery Simeon and Levi dishonorably murdered the Shechemites while they were sore (34:25–26), and the remaining brothers gleefully looted their possessions (34:27–29). Simeon and Levi were punished for their cruelty, and as a result they were scattered among the twelve tribes and were not given a specific portion of land as an inheritance (49:5–7). Even though the narrator did not comment immediately in Gen. 34 on the actions of Simeon and Levi, it is clear that he saw these deeds as evil. Nonetheless, the Lord’s purposes were realized through their malfeasance, for the Israelites were prevented from intermarrying with the Shechemites.
Another danger surfaced, however, because of the evil perpetrated by Simeon and Levi. Now the family of Jacob (and the realization of the promise of the kingdom) faced the danger of attack from the Canaanites and Perizzites, who would retaliate for Israel’s slaughter (34:30). The only explanation for Israel’s preservation was divine intervention, for “a terror from God fell upon the cities that were around them, so that they did not pursue the sons of Jacob” (35:5). The Lord then appeared to Jacob and confirmed the promise of Abraham to him again, pledging offspring, land, and blessings for all peoples (35:9–13). The stories of the preservation of Jacob and his children drive home one of the main themes of the narrative: the preservation of Jacob’s offspring is not due to human ingenuity or even human virtue. Only God’s covenant promise can explain why this small family escaped disaster after disaster and was preserved intact.
Thanks Matillo! What are your thoughts on The King and His Beauty?
Thanks Matillo! What are your thoughts on The King and His Beauty? DAL
I really like what I’ve read thus far. He gives great summaries of the books of the Bible in plain simple language while trying to show how they relate to the kingdom of God. Some theologies are a chore to read but this one I can sit down and read without getting bogged down. I have in no way read this thing entirely because it is huge but the parts I have seen I liked. Hoping to tackle Samuel in the next few months and this one is on the list for review
Nothing in my priority wishlist. Only stuff in my low priority/buy when 50% off or more lists.
Why did I not think of that type of split! Thanks Paul.
Still got two off my lists though Thanks FL
Nothing in my priority wishlist. Only stuff in my low priority/buy when 50% off or more lists. Why did I not think of that type of split! Thanks Paul. Still got two off my lists though Thanks FL
In fact I have 4 "wishlists":
1. Books I really want to buy when budget allows - ideally with some discount.
2. Commentaries I'm interested in when seriously cheap
3. Non-commentaries I'm interested in when seriously cheap
4. Books I already own in other formats and so will only buy if seriously cheap
The first list only has 4 books in it now. You'd think it would be easy to buy them, but Logos have had some seriously good offers this year. 2 of the books in particular are quite pricey and I'll wait for birthday coupon before buying unless they go on sale before.
There are several books on sale that are in the Connect list of 3 free books a month category. I have to double check to make sure I don't pay for anything I can get for free. I'll never live long enough to get them all though.
Could Veli, John and Paul (or anyone else!) share their recommendations that have turned up in the sale?
I could learn a thing or two!
In addition to the one I posted earlier, I also got this. Don’t really have any DSS stuff
https://www.logos.com/product/8933/dead-sea-scrolls-bible
Thanks. Keep those recommendations coming. The sale won't last long!
In addition to the one I posted earlier, I also got this. Don’t really have any DSS stuff https://www.logos.com/product/8933/dead-sea-scrolls-bible
Good Suggestion on the DSS Bible. I do not yet have this one so it is a good pick up for me. Thanks!
Here are some great and practical expository sermons: https://www.logos.com/product/7221/ian-r-k-paisley-collection
It was $22 for me since I already owned one in the collection.
I narrowed the list down to unowned and savings so the best Memorial Day deals pop up first: https://www.logos.com/search?filters=producttype-memorialday2020_Product%20Type&sortBy=Savings&limit=60&page=1&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=availableToMe
It helped me come across the set I just purchased and others I’m considering. You can always adjust the filter to however you want it 👍😁👌
I have a few of Jacob Neusner's books, but I thought this would be a good time to pick some individual titles or a small set. I can't afford the entire collection. Any must-haves or suggestions?
https://www.logos.com/search?filters=author-7210_Author&limit=60&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=all&sortBy=PriceLow
This is the set I was considering: https://www.logos.com/product/51511/christianity-judaism-and-other-greco-roman-cults
I don't really want to tempt anyone, but since you ask:
https://www.logos.com/product/24995/college-press-resurrection-collectionhttps://www.logos.com/product/144570/old-earth-or-evolutionary-creation-discussing-origins-with-reasons-to-believe-and-biologoshttps://www.logos.com/product/26969/the-creeds-of-christendomhttps://www.logos.com/product/4248/summa-theologicahttps://www.logos.com/product/54357/the-bible-knowledge-background-commentary-new-testamenthttps://www.logos.com/product/168634/martyn-lloyd-jones-expositionshttps://www.logos.com/product/154/the-works-of-josephushttps://www.logos.com/product/50054/select-works-of-daniel-i-blockhttps://www.logos.com/product/55228/encyclopaedia-britannica-collectionhttps://www.logos.com/product/41714/erasing-hell-what-god-said-about-eternity-and-the-things-we-made-uphttps://www.logos.com/product/23759/jesus-the-final-dayshttps://www.logos.com/product/5206/summa-contra-gentileshttps://www.logos.com/product/3846/ariel-ministries-messianic-collectionhttps://www.logos.com/product/4250/hugh-ross-reasons-to-believe-collectionhttps://www.logos.com/product/50144/select-works-of-william-lane-craighttps://www.logos.com/product/150111/ff-bruce-collection
Thanks. Keep those recommendations coming. The sale won't last long! I don't really want to tempt anyone, but since you ask: https://www.logos.com/product/144570/old-earth-or-evolutionary-creation-discussing-origins-with-reasons-to-believe-and-biologoshttps://www.logos.com/product/50144/select-works-of-william-lane-craig
https://www.logos.com/product/144570/old-earth-or-evolutionary-creation-discussing-origins-with-reasons-to-believe-and-biologoshttps://www.logos.com/product/50144/select-works-of-william-lane-craig
Jan, thank you, these two look quite interesting to me. Incidentally, William Lane Craig apparently visited our family apartment in the mid/late 70s whilst my dad was serving as a missionary to Germany. I think it was when we lived in Munich. It may have had something to do with Pannenberg and the theological dept there at the university. I was just a teen back then.
It would be nice if we could have the ability to show 100 items per page instead of 60. When you have to go through 198 pages of items on sale at 60 per page, that’s discouraging. I’m on page 54 and already tired of going through the items on sale. At least 100 per page would make it a little bit faster to go through the sale.
Thank you, Jan. That's a good list. Combing through the items I find I have over half of the titles already, including some I completely forget I had! It's a Memorial Day in another sense for me.
There's an "owned" filter to list out the resources I have. This feature is very useful to me.
Hey JT and Jan, I believe I remember a faithlife employee state that they do not follow the general forum. That according to him all the other forums are followed by faithlife employees. Thanks I hope that clears it up.
Pricing issue has a more specific forum => Logos.com since Memorial Day sale is on Logos.com website.
Thankful for Memorial Day sale prices appearing this weekend.
Unowned filter reduces list => https://www.logos.com/search?filters=producttype-memorialday2020_Product%20Type&sortBy=Savings&limit=60&page=1&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=availableToMe
Keep Smiling [:)]
Sorted by Savings included => https://www.logos.com/product/42752/crossway-john-piper-collection
Noticed a Coronavirus resource on sale => https://www.logos.com/product/56781/when-the-darkness-will-not-lift-doing-what-we-can-while-we-wait-for-god-and-joy so purchase of $ 0.99 reduced dynamic price of collection by $ 2.99
Unowned Live (Available to All due to a known bug) on Logos.com => https://www.logos.com/search?page=1&sortBy=Savings&limit=60&filters=status-live_Status%2Bavailability-storefront-lo_Available%20At&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=all includes several John Piper resources on first page, which included When the Darkness Will Not Lift: Doing What We Can While We Wait for God—And Joy for $ 0.99
Is it correct that the Church of God Bundle
https://www.logos.com/product/181613/church-of-god-bundle
does not have dynamic pricing?
Is it correct that the Church of God Bundle https://www.logos.com/product/181613/church-of-god-bundle does not have dynamic pricing?
correct.
One thing to keep in mind here. Myself for example have the Connect Essentials/No Library at the old Logos Now price ($99.00).
The way I figure things is that I am pre-paying for those 3 books a month. 3/month * 12 months = 36 books per year for $99.00 works out to be $2.75 per book. So if the sale price is at or below that price point then it makes sense to buy at the sale price.
Example: This item (collection) https://www.logos.com/product/5175/the-life-and-works-of-horatius-bonar
My price (I own 12 of the volumes already) is $55.43 for 35 volumes. That works out to $1.58 each. A much better deal price wise.
Don't look at the connect books as being free because you are in actuality paying for them. You have to figure out your own price point of course but just thought I would bring it up.
Dear Friends,
Is it worth to buy this series: Navarre Bible, Standard Edition (19 vols.)?Any thoughts?What is the difference between Navarre Bible and New Interpreter’s Bible (12 vols.)?
Thank you in advance!Blessings!
The Navarre Bible, which is presented here without the Latin Vulgate, is a Conservative Catholic (Opus Dei) commentary originally formatted as footnotes to the Bible Text. IIRC it makes use of the Church Fathers and church documents.
The New Interpreter's Bible is a mainline commentary in a more standard commentary format - it is not specifically Catholic.
Both have their place where they are useful. How useful depends on your needs.
Adding, New Jerome's and New Interpreters are neck and neck twins (with slight theology differences).
Is it correct that the Church of God Bundle https://www.logos.com/product/181613/church-of-god-bundle does not have dynamic pricing? correct.
This is a pity. I have quite a few of the books already so it is not worth to purchase the bundle.
