Morphology search for Hebrew verbs that includes their full form as they appear in the text (i.e. in

Hello,

I am trying to run a morphology search for the full form of Hebrew verbs as they appear in the text. That is, I want the conjunctions and pronominal suffixes that are attached to verbs to stay attached to them and to be reflected in the verbs' parsing information in the Analysis tab. Currently, when I run the search for verbs in the NRSV, by searching "@V" in the Morph tab, the conjunctions and pronominal suffixes are broken off into separate words and do not appear in the verbs' parsing information.

How can I run a search where the conjunctions and pronominal suffixes stay attached to verbs in order to preserve the verbs' full forms, and how can those conjunctions and pronominal suffixes be included in the verbs' parsing information? I am using Logos 8 Basic and searching in the NRSV.

Thanks for any answers,

Tim

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DMB

Well, that's a tall order

How can I run a search where the conjunctions and pronominal suffixes stay attached to verbs in order to preserve the verbs' full forms, and how can those conjunctions and pronominal suffixes be included in the verbs' parsing information? I am using Logos 8 Basic and searching in the NRSV.

The messy way is morph-conjunction BEFORE 4 CHARS morph-verb or similar (however you want to limit conjunctions/verbs).

Timothy Gilmartin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1103132#Comment_1103132

Hi Denise,

Thank you for your answer (second time this week).

When I paste what you suggested ("morph-conjunction BEFORE 4 CHARS morph-verb") into the Morph search bar, I am not getting any results. I did it for the book of Exodus, where there are a lot of verbs with conjunctions and pronominal suffixes. Am I doing this in the correct place, or do you have any ideas on what I should be doing differently?

Tim

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1103134#Comment_1103134

Timothy, I was only using the knowledge of what you were working on earlier.

morph-conjunction meant like @C-etc and morph-verb meant @V-etc

where you'd at least initially want to constrain both to make sure it's what you want (vs a massive search unconstrained)

Sorry I wasn't clear!

Timothy Gilmartin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1103143#Comment_1103143

Sorry to be a bother. I am not seeing any results come up when I search "@V-etc" or @C-etc" either...

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1103145#Comment_1103145

Not a bother. The 'etc' is what you would choose to constrain the search.

Here's a specific example:

@C BEFORE 4 CHARS @VdR-MPA (which locates examples in 41 OT verses)

Keep in mind the result of such queries are going to be messy, relative to what you're looking for.

Timothy Gilmartin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1103146#Comment_1103146

I am getting some results for that search. However, the full form is often still broken into separate parts. The reason I am trying to get the full forms with their full parsing information intact is that I was planning to make notecards for several thousand verbal forms. As a result, I am trying to find the easiest solution to input the full verbal forms with their corresponding parsing information into an Excel spreadsheet and then make the notecards using the cells. Unfortunately, I am finding that there are many complications to doing this.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1103155#Comment_1103155

I don't know of any easy way to output a series of combos with tags.

If I were doing it, I'd save the search as a passage list, attached to LHI, and then 'Open All'. This effectively filters LHI to a series of verses meeting the search, and displaying the interlinear information for the verbal forms. Then the hard part ... copy/paste one by one. Ugh.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1103155#Comment_1103155

However, the full form is often still broken into separate parts.

You have to run the search against a Hebrew bible to avoid this (and be assured of word order). Even then, some conjunctions are separate segments