I've seen several people mention selling off paper books that they also own in Logos format. For those of you who do this how, where, to whom do you sell? I would like to sell some books but none of my local used bookstores will buy them.
You could sell them on eBay. Or you could consider donating them to be used by theological libraries in poorer countries. Someone posted a recommendation here once for an organization that takes such donations, and I'll go look for it and come back and post an update.
EDIT: I found the thread, and the organization is the Theological Book Network (http://www.theologicalbooknetwork.org).
For those of you who do this how, where, to whom do you sell?
I've had good success selling on Amazon. It's a little bit of work to get set up (you have to enter each one individually) and you have to ship each one, but the price is pretty good depending on what you have. There's no direct charge to you--Amazon keeps a small percentage of your selling price.
Ron,
Amazon is THE place to sell your books on the internet. Why? Because that is the Internet book seller that many people will turn to first (and perhaps the only place some will go) when looking for a book. You will have a greater chance of selling your book on Amazon, and you will likely command a higher price. eBay is too risky, unless you know the going rate for a particular book is higher than the Amazon Market Place value. I have tried selling at other places, but Amazon consistently garners more sales and and higher prices.
How does the carriage thing work? That is what has put me off selling.
I would be seriously interested, because I have to unload most of my library (over 2000 titles) in the next two years before I retire and move to a much smaller place. In addition, I have a serious addiction to fund – LPS (Logos PrePub Syndrome, where the suffer is compelled to bid for more PrePubs than he/she can ever afford).
There is also Operation Bare Your Bookshelf, if you would like to donate them to pastors in need.
How does the carriage thing work? That is what has put me off selling. I would be seriously interested, because I have to unload most of my library (over 2000 titles) in the next two years before I retire and move to a much smaller place. In addition, I have a serious addiction to fund – LPS (Logos PrePub Syndrome, where the suffer is compelled to bid for more PrePubs than he/she can ever afford).
Here's a link that explains the program - http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_lnav_dyn?ie=UTF8&nodeId=1161234. Amazon includes a standard rate that the buyer pays for shipping. If you have any specific questions, you can email me at gar <dot> oneal at gmail <dot> com.
Thanks, Gary, I think I'll try this for a few individual books and see how it works before trying to sell my full sets or heavy books.
I'll try this for a few individual books and see how it works before trying to sell my full sets or heavy books.
One other thought - it will only let you sell books and sets that Amazon already has listed. I wanted to sell my complete set of TDNT together, but Amazon only lists them individually.
Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like donating or Amazon is the general consensus. I was hoping someone knew of an online reseller who would purchase in bulk.
I just sold several books on half.com. It works very smoothly. When the customer orders, you simply box it, take it to the Post Office and send it Media Mail. Then, Half.com reimburses you for a decent percentage of the postage. You don't pay any other charges.
Roger
Ron
I just remembered that Baker buys librarys - http://www.bakerbookretail.com/usedbook.asp. I've never used them so I can't tell you anything about the process.
I just sold a book on Amazon -- I'll give you details so you can compare it with other places. The book was Dictionary of the Later New Testament & It's Development. Amazon was selling it new for $37.80. Others on Amazon had used ones for as low as 28.00 (good or acceptable condition). Mine was in like new condition, so I listed it for 30. When it sold, Amazon collected the 30 + 3.99 shipping from the buyer and sent me an email to ship it. I shipped it for about 3.75 (media mail). Amazon deposited 27.14 to my account (so their part was a little over $6).
To me it's worth it. I don't use these now that I have them on Logos. And by time I take shipping out of it, that's another 23 dollars to go toward prepubs. Maybe one day I'll sell enough to get NICNT.
In what way is LPS related to "ordinary" bibliomania and bilbiophilia? My self diagnosis would probably be bibliomania and not LPS. I can't even stand the idea of having to sell any of the books I collected over the past 12 years (except for a few books by questionable authors). On the other hand, I know that this moment will come one day. Last year a fellow bibliomaniac (and fellow citizen) had to remove 5000 books from his rented house because of fire regulations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA6g5OUIokQ
In what way is LPS related to "ordinary" bibliomania and bilbiophilia?
Bibliophilia is not an addiction; it is a virtue. [:)]
Bibliomania is an addiction. As someone said, "I've just got to have it." I have a friend who was a bibliomaniac, but is now cured, when he retired and moved from a Scottish manse to his own modest bungalow. He had to sell over 5000 books!
LPS (Logos PrePub Syndrome) is a more recent and specific addiction, as it does not extend to the Logos products pages but only to the PrePub pages. I would conclude that it is driven by the desire for a good bargain – a trait very prevalent in Scotland and particularly in the North-East where it is endemic in the population. However, LPS is very specific. I don't behave that way on the Amazon website or any other retailer. No, it is peculiar to Logos PrePubs, hence LPS.
Are there other addicts out there? Or am I the only one?
[:'(] Though it's good to know that bibliomania can be cured.
You have a point there. I would never be tempted to buy a Sahidic Coptic Collection when it was offered on the Amazon website or even on the Logos product pages. Even when I'am on holiday in London (Foyles, Metropolitan Tabernacle Bookshop, Pendlebury's, etc.) I can restrain myself from exceeding my budget. Perhaps you're not the only one with LPS after all.
I've heard that sometimes second-hand bookshops specializing in theology (here in the Netherlands) won't buy Kittel's Theologisches Wörterbuch zum Neuen Testament, because there's too much supply. Dutch theology used to be very German orientated, but nowadays many theology students prefer to buy (and read) the English translation of Kittel, Von Rad, Pannenberg, etc.[N]
On the other hand, this lack of demand has adventages when you're good at German: I bought my copy of Kittel's dictionary for 30 euro (all 11 volumes)!
I've seen several people mention selling off paper books that they also own in Logos format. For those of you who do this how, where, to whom do you sell? I would like to sell some books but none of my local used bookstores will buy them. I've heard that sometimes second-hand bookshops specializing in theology (here in the Netherlands) won't buy Kittel's Theologisches Wörterbuch zum Neuen Testament, because there's too much supply.
I've heard that sometimes second-hand bookshops specializing in theology (here in the Netherlands) won't buy Kittel's Theologisches Wörterbuch zum Neuen Testament, because there's too much supply.
That gives me the idea to suggest Ron that you look for second-hand online bookshops specializing in theology. They are always buying and looking for large collections to buy all at once. Google used books theology. One example is Windows Booksellers in Eugene, Oregon: "Windows Booksellers buys and sells books related to Christian theology, Judaica, biblical studies, church history, western philosophy, antiquities, medieval history, intellectual history, historiography, linguistics, literature, and archaeology." Unfortunately that's a long way to ship from Scotland and it would be awfully expensive. But surely you can find one somewhere in the UK by Googling. For example: http://lundbooks.co.uk/wants.html. See http://www.christianbookshops.org.uk/secondhand/index.htm for a big list of second hand bookshops in the UK with a web presence.
One example is Windows Booksellers in Eugene, Oregon
Loome's has always been my go-to for purchasing 2nd hand theology. Alibris, for selling.
I would never be tempted to buy a Sahidic Coptic Collection
Not even to insure that Logos could become the program of choice for Biblical language scholars? Could I interest you in Armenian, Old Gothic, Church Slavonic? [Yes, the Coptic collection is headed my way]
Could I interest you in Armenian, Old Gothic, Church Slavonic?
"jah ni briggais uns in fraistubnjai"
I already have at least one introductory grammar for each of these three languages on my shelves. The big question is: "How do I find the time to actually learn these languages???" At university I have taken courses in Old Frisian and Polish, so Old Gothic and Church Slavonic won't be too difficult to learn.
Armenian on the other hand will require some effort. I know it would be great to be able to read those works of Ephraem Syrus that are no longer extent in Syriac, but since I am learning Hungarian and Sanskrit (story of Nala) at the moment, Armenian will have to wait a while. However, you could win me over for "the Armenian cause", if you are willing to support either Frisian, Polish, or more works in Aramaic/Syriac (e.g. Jastrow's dictionary which lingers on the prepub page)......
Apart from learning new languages, I also have to keep up with the foreign lanuages I already know (e.g.English). I hope you didn't get me wrong about the Coptic collection. I only wanted to say that I would never have been tempted to buy if it hadn't been a prepub. I placed a prepub for it last year, so it is also headed my way.
I am learning Hungarian and Sanskrit
Excellent taste - i have several years of Sanskrit "under my belt" and a little of Central Asian Turkic languages.
At university I have taken courses in Old Frisian and Polish, so Old Gothic and Church Slavonic won't be too difficult to learn
I'll vouch for the Old Gothic - required in a historical linguistics class. I'll admit to not having actually looked at Church Slavonic.
I hope you didn't get me wrong about the Coptic collection. I only wanted to say that I would never have been tempted to buy if it hadn't been a prepub.
Not at all ... after all I was the one who begged for the last few commitments to make it a reality. With a bit of misdirection in the heading to get people to look.[;)]
t would be great to be able to read those works of Ephraem Syrus
Yes - at least the Florida edition as a start
I really do wish/hope that Logos will continue to expand their coverage of the early Bible manuscripts - Anglo-Saxon actually being what I personally want to see next.
Anglo-Saxon actually being what I personally want to see next.
[Y] Oh yes. I loved Anglo-Saxon. It was the first Bible I really read. Long before I was a Christian. It was in second-year English Language at the University of St. Andrews back in 1965. I still have my Sweet's Anglo-Saxon Primer and Anglo-Saxon Reader and still dip into them from time to time. I would love to have the Anglo-Saxon Bible in Logos format.
I would also like the Lorimer Scots New Testament which was translated into Scots directly from the Greek text. But I suppose that's such a minority interest that it will never happen.
t would be great to be able to read those works of Ephraem Syrus Yes - at least the Florida edition as a start
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[Y] Anglo-Saxon is also a close relative of Old Frisian.
There is always a chance that the new PBB will be done in a manner that encourages teachers to create and share such resources.
After all, I admit to being tempted to create a PBB of the Chinese Nestorian texts just to expand peoples' horizons. - Okay, I'll admit to lacking some of the required skills to pull this off very well - those little things like indexing would trip me up.[:P]
I'll admit to lacking some of the required skills to pull this off very well - those little things like indexing would trip me up.
Who needs to index anything anymore now that you can search with Logos?
However I admit that having a good index which points you to only the significant pages where some topic is discussed can save you a lot of time examining every single hit if the key word happens to be mentioned in passing all over the place. Case in point: this query about how to find the most significant places where regeneration was discussed in Berkouwer's Studies in Dogmatics, and my answer.
Well, let me put it this way. I have read a little classical Chinese (40 years ago) but that's it. I have no idea how to enter Chinese on a computer keyboard to do a search ... but at least I've finally modified my operating system to allow my Encyclopedia of the Puranas to work.[8-|]
Note: for anyone who thinks this thread shows severe logophilia ... I have a friend that we know what will kill her: she'll run out of truly new languages to learn. She makes me look logophobic.
Sorry, I have (CPS) community pricing syndrome. It is much safer then LPS, as I am still able to store away nuts for the winter. However because of this syndrome I have accepted the hyper tension. It only arises when the titles sit in Cp for over 3 months, or when titles move from Cp and dont get replaced with new ones (as is the problem I am having right now.. [:P]
Can we please get some fresh titles my blood pressure is going crazy [:|]
Sorry, I have (CPS) community pricing syndrome.
That will require immediate CPR (community pricing resuscitation)!
LOL[:D]
[Y] Yes, please. It's about time we had some fresh public domain titles in Community Pricing.
