BUG: Tagging of {Speaker } over smaller Ranges (also inconsistent with WOC)

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edited November 2024 in English Forum

Amongst my 13 Reverse Interlinear (RI) Bibles, 9 have Words of Christ (WOC) tagging at John 3:16-21 with punctuation to match*. But only 6 RI bibles are tagged with {Speaker  <Person Jesus>} for that range:-

  • AV1873 is not tagged with WOC, but result may be OK.
  • LEB is not tagged with WOC and it has a footnote that precludes that range from being words of Jesus!
  • ESV, KJV 1900, NKJV and NLT are tagged with WOC, but why are the other 5 WOC bibles not  included when they also have Speaker labels?
  • When the search range is John 3:10-21, all 13 RI bibles are included with the {Speaker...} query
    • This includes the 9 bibles that have WOC
    • NABRE is included when it has no WOC, and punctuation would seem to exclude vv.16-21.
    • NIV 2011 is included when it has WOC, but its range and punctuation excludes vv.16-21

The queries used are God in Words of Christ (WOC) field, and God WITHIN {Speaker  <Person Jesus>} in All bible Text.

* except in KJV 1900

Dave
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  • Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,123

    WOC comes from the publisher (from the print formatting of the Bible and whether it uses red-letter text); it will be different per translation.

    {Speaker} comes from Faithlife's annotation on SBLGNT so it will be the same for all reverse interlinears.

  • MVP Posts: 36,152

    How do 6 RI bibles have results at John 3:16-21 whilst SBLGNT has no results (for {Speaker  <Person Jesus>})? Note that SBLGNT and all 13 RI's have results at John 3:10-21.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,123

    How do 6 RI bibles have results at John 3:16-21 whilst SBLGNT has no results (for {Speaker  <Person Jesus>})? Note that SBLGNT and all 13 RI's have results at John 3:10-21.

    I don't understand the question. If a Bible has results in John 3:10-21, then surely it has results in John 3:16-21 by definition?

    I see results for that query in multiple verses in John 3 in SBLGNT, and specifically in vv16-21:

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    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,123

    It seems like you might have found a bug with specifying extremely small verse ranges in the range filter in Bible Search.

  • MVP Posts: 54,952

    This explains some oddities I found but did not pursue. Thanks Dave.

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  • MVP Posts: 36,152

    It seems like you might have found a bug with specifying extremely small verse ranges in the range filter in Bible Search.

    With a search for God (with Match all word forms)

    I included SBLGNT in the collection. All bibles have God/θεός in verses 16,17, 18 and 21. NLT inserts God's in verse 19.

    The restricted range excludes SBLGNT, and does not find God in v. 16 for 4 of the bibles.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

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