Attn Kyle: Missing Content from recent PrePub NIV Bible Speaks Today Study Bible Notes

Kyle

It seems that this item is missing several of the features shown on the product page. This is what the product page states:

Features include:

Over 2,300 notes extracted from the Bible Speaks Today series that explain and apply the biblical text
Questions for personal or group use to help you understand and apply biblical truths
Outlines that give a brief overview of each book of the Bible
Background and setting to provide the context to understand each book
Themes and relevance to apply the Bible to the contemporary world
Maps showing the locations of key Bible events
Parallel passages cross-referenced to identical or similar passages

https://www.logos.com/product/190167/niv-bible-speaks-today-study-bible-notes

From what I can see all that shipped was the barebones notes. It is missing:

Outlines that give a brief overview of each book of the Bible
Background and setting to provide the context to understand each book
Themes and relevance to apply the Bible to the contemporary world
Maps showing the locations of key Bible events
Parallel passages cross-referenced to identical or similar passages

Here is the first page, you can even see that it is missing a basic ToC... thoughts?

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Kyle G. Anderson

Interesting!

There's definitely a disconnect between the marketing material we received and the actual files of the resource. We didn't receive any of the additional content.

I'll be looking into this. I'd really like to get that stuff added. You might need to hold tight for a bit until we get things sorted out.

Bruce Roth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1108583#Comment_1108583

Here is the list of features from the OT competitor for this product:

Combined with the NIV text, the most popular modern English translation, this study Bible includes the following features:

Complete text of the New International Version
Over 2,300 notes extracted from the Bible Speaks Today series to explain and apply the Bible text
Questions at the end of every note for personal or group use to help you understand and apply Biblical truths

Might be all you get in an electronic version. There isn't a Kindle version, just a paper.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1108583#Comment_1108583

Interesting!

There's definitely a disconnect between the marketing material we received and the actual files of the resource. We didn't receive any of the additional content.

I'll be looking into this. I'd really like to get that stuff added. You might need to hold tight for a bit until we get things sorted out.

Thank you Kyle! It would definitely be great if we could get that stuff added in. I was surprised it was missing and they didn't give it to you guys. Seemed odd jumping right into Genesis notes w/o an introduction which is usually pretty common in these. Also, I don't know the difference but this was classified as Bible Notes and not a Study Bible when it downloaded.

JohnB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1108589#Comment_1108589

It would help us if Logos stated specifically what was included from the dead tree version AND what was not.

It would also inform Logos what materials they have contracted to receive from the publisher and hence the check would become part of their production work flow.

The reported missing bits were part of why I ordered it. Without them I would not have ordered it in the first place.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1108671#Comment_1108671

It would help us if Logos stated specifically what was included from the dead tree version AND what was not.

It would also inform Logos what materials they have contracted to receive from the publisher and hence the check would become part of their production work flow.

The reported missing bits were part of why I ordered it. Without them I would not have ordered it in the first place.

I agree and I think it would be safe to assume that a "Study Bible' would have those missing bits. I'm pretty sure all of my Logos Study Bibles have Intros, Maps, and Outlines so I'm just guessing this was a publisher error. At least that is my hope.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1108678#Comment_1108678

I know a few of the niceties like maps and graphics were missing from the original version of the LAB the Accordance released but they eventually were provided those things and added them in. (Publishers sometimes don't seem to think people need anything beyond bare bones).

-dan

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1108705#Comment_1108705

I’m glad I already own the BST OT and NT, so no need to pay extra to have headaches like this 😂😂😂

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1108717#Comment_1108717

Any updates on this?

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1109226#Comment_1109226

No date yet but we're working on it.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1109295#Comment_1109295

Thank you Kyle. I figured it would take a while to fix. I was just curious if the publisher got back to you and said it was an oops. I have 30 days so I'll wait to see what happens. Also, I don't know if you noticed before but this is classified as Bible Notes in Logos and not a Study Bible... not quite sure the difference.

Thanks again sir

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1109310#Comment_1109310

I wanted to provide an update.

We are in conversations with the publisher. They confirmed we did not receive the full breadth of necessary material. We're working on receiving it from them.

Once we get the material we'll have a better sense of when it will be added to the resource.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1110290#Comment_1110290

I wanted to provide an update.

We are in conversations with the publisher. They confirmed we did not receive the full breadth of necessary material. We're working on receiving it from them.

Once we get the material we'll have a better sense of when it will be added to the resource.

Awesome! Thx Kyle

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1110290#Comment_1110290

I wanted to provide an update.

We are in conversations with the publisher. They confirmed we did not receive the full breadth of necessary material. We're working on receiving it from them.

Once we get the material we'll have a better sense of when it will be added to the resource.

Any updates on this Kyle?

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115679#Comment_1115679

I wanted to provide an update.

We are in conversations with the publisher. They confirmed we did not receive the full breadth of necessary material. We're working on receiving it from them.

Once we get the material we'll have a better sense of when it will be added to the resource.

Any updates on this Kyle?

No update other than we reached out again.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115807#Comment_1115807

I wanted to provide an update.

We are in conversations with the publisher. They confirmed we did not receive the full breadth of necessary material. We're working on receiving it from them.

Once we get the material we'll have a better sense of when it will be added to the resource.

Any updates on this Kyle?

No update other than we reached out again.

Did you hear back Mr. Kyle?

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1119173#Comment_1119173

I wanted to provide an update.

We are in conversations with the publisher. They confirmed we did not receive the full breadth of necessary material. We're working on receiving it from them.

Once we get the material we'll have a better sense of when it will be added to the resource.

Any updates on this Kyle?

No update other than we reached out again.

Did you hear back Mr. Kyle?

No. Unfortunately not.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1119195#Comment_1119195

Well that’s not good! What’s the plan from here?

Also, do you know anything in regards to this post? https://community.logos.com/forums/t/191585.aspx

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1119219#Comment_1119219

Well that’s not good! What’s the plan from here?

And funny timing ... about an hour after I posted we got the materials!

We're putting it in production right now and I'll let you know when we have an ETA.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1119239#Comment_1119239

Well that’s not good! What’s the plan from here?

And funny timing ... about an hour after I posted we got the materials!

We're putting it in production right now and I'll let you know when we have an ETA.

Great! Not pushing my luck but any luck with this one? https://community.logos.com/forums/t/191585.aspx

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1119239#Comment_1119239

Well that’s not good! What’s the plan from here?

And funny timing ... about an hour after I posted we got the materials!

We're putting it in production right now and I'll let you know when we have an ETA.

Checking back on this sir... any updates about getting this into production?

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1124254#Comment_1124254

Yes. It's looking like it will land sometime in mid-November.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1124377#Comment_1124377

Awesome. Thanks Kyle

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1124377#Comment_1124377

Yes. It's looking like it will land sometime in mid-November.

Good Afternoon Sir! Still looking like in another week or two?

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1134145#Comment_1134145

Yes. It's looking like it will land sometime in mid-November.

Good Afternoon Sir! Still looking like in another week or two?

Yes. I'm trying to avoid giving a precise date but if you'll take it with a grain of salt we're scheduled to be finished on November 17 and will be made available the next time we push out resource updates which I think will end up being November 24.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1134354#Comment_1134354

Awesome! Just in time for Turkey 😇

thank you sir

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1119239#Comment_1119239

Well that’s not good! What’s the plan from here?

And funny timing ... about an hour after I posted we got the materials!

We're putting it in production right now and I'll let you know when we have an ETA.

Just checking back on this sir!

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1138826#Comment_1138826

Well that’s not good! What’s the plan from here?

And funny timing ... about an hour after I posted we got the materials!

We're putting it in production right now and I'll let you know when we have an ETA.

Just checking back on this sir!

Just checking back on this sir!

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1140349#Comment_1140349

If anyone is following, the update got pushed last night and it now has the outlines and background material. Still missing the maps though so I hope a future update includes them!

Thanks Kyle!

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1143318#Comment_1143318

Bump 1

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1143318#Comment_1143318

If anyone is following, the update got pushed last night and it now has the outlines and background material. Still missing the maps though so I hope a future update includes them!

Thanks Kyle!

Kyle

Do you know if any more updates are forthcoming?

Thank you

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1147167#Comment_1147167

Bump

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1148732#Comment_1148732

Just checking back for updates

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1154339#Comment_1154339

Round 2 came back a few days ago. We're targeting shipping on March 2.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1154348#Comment_1154348

Thank you sir

Bill

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1154348#Comment_1154348

Round 2 came back a few days ago. We're targeting shipping on March 2.

Hi Kyle!

Any chance their are study guides in that missing data from the publisher. It appears not all of the resources have a study guide, which are at the end of the books that do have them?

Thank you