Best device to just read a book

If your not trying to study... you just want to sit and read... which device do you reach for? The computer, an android phone or tablet, or an Ipad. I guess at this point a Kindle or E-reader would not be a viable option... both because of text conversion issues and because the screens on the latest ipad and android models are so much better...

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HJ. van der Wal

you just want to sit and read... which device do you reach for?

I would reach for my iPad.

I also use an android smartphone for casual reading but I prefer the larger screen of the iPad.

Graham Criddle

I agree - my iPad has become my reading platform of choice. My Kindle is largely ignored!

DMB

I guess at this point a Kindle or E-reader would not be a viable option.

I'd say, for me, 2/3's Kindle. maybe 1/6 PC and 1/6 iPad. But that's from supplementing Logos with specialized monographs. I keep one of my Paperwhites dedicated to religious books ... it's getting heavy.

It's not realistic to expect FL to have everything.

JT (alabama24)

Best device to just read a book If your not trying to study... you just want to sit and read... which device do you reach for?

In my mind there is no dispute. A Kindle Paperwhite. The key to my answer is "just read" and not "trying to study."

I guess at this point a Kindle or E-reader would not be a viable option... both because of text conversion issues and because the screens on the latest ipad and android models are so much better...

I LOVE my MacBook. I LOVE my iPad. I LOVE my Paperwhite. Each has a purpose. Each excels at something the others don't. To respond to your two points:

1. Conversion is no longer as simple as "send to kindle," but it isn't difficult or laborious. It is easy. If you know how to do so, it should not take even five minutes. Mark has a thread in the forums about conversion.

2. The screens are NOT better than the Paperwhite. Furthermore, we stare at screens all day long (computer, tv, phone, tablet). The paper white, for its purpose, is MUCH better for your eyes.

Doc B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115903#Comment_1115903

My experience agrees almost exactly with what Bama wrote. For 'just reading,' my Paperwhite gets used (a lot). I have a couple older Kindles which get used occasionally.

My iPad will get used if a Kindle isn't within reach, and I don't mind it, but it doesn't beat the Paperwhite.

I never (any more) 'just read' from a computer screen of any type.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115905#Comment_1115905

Thanks Doc. I knew I liked you. [:)]

I just thought of something else... If anyone doesn't own a paper white, they are now waterproof, have twice the storage, and routinely drop to $100 or less. If you want to get a deal, use camel camel camel to set up a price watch to be notified when they drop. You can often pick them up at Best Buy in person for the same price when Amazon discounts them.

Mark Nolette

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115909#Comment_1115909

For reading and not study?

First choice: my Onyx Boox Nova 2. E-Ink, runs Android 9.0, good performance, has 'cool' and 'warm' light, easiest on the eyes for long-term reading. 7.8 inch display - nice size but not too big or heavy. No conversion necessary; uses Logos/Verbum Android app.

Second choice (it's a close second): my iPad mini 5. About the same size as my Nova 2; best reading experience I've had on a 'conventional' display; lightweight; great performer.

Dawn S.

If just reading a book not in Logos, I use Kindle. If reading something I only have in my Logos library I have the original Ipad mini that at this point is basically only good for reading and surfing the web. I do the majority of my Bible reading on my IMac in Logos. Logos has made my Bibles get dusty....I feel shame in that. [:(]

David Wanat

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115933#Comment_1115933

I find my iPad (Air 3) makes a great reader.

Veli Voipio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115937#Comment_1115937

I use Android Tablet in my sofa, and Android Phone when commuting.

I get the feeling that I am a dissident ...

Mark McDonald

If I'm going to read something for more than a couple of minutes, I reach for my Kindle Oasis. It's much easier on my eyes. There are ways to get text to my Kindle, even from Logos. If I'm studying in Logos, then it's mostly my laptop or iPad. Unfortunately I haven't found an e-ink device that supports Logos, yet.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115969#Comment_1115969

Unfortunately I haven't found an e-ink device that supports Logos, yet.

See the other Mark's post: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193622/1115920.aspx#1115920

Mark Nolette

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115972#Comment_1115972

I could rattle off at least six e-ink devices that support Logos, mostly from Onyx and Likebook (Boyue)!

Greg Rose

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1115903#Comment_1115903

I'm computer illiterate when it comes to devices like kindle and paperwhite. When you say you would use the Paperwhite for reading, do you mean reading your resources from Logos, i.e. book resources in Logos. Is there a Logos App that works with the Paperwhite? When you talk about "conversion is no longer as simple as "send to Kindle" are you meaning that a Logos resource needs to somehow be converted before it can be loaded onto a Paperwhite and read? Thanks!

Mark Nolette

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116050#Comment_1116050

I'm computer illiterate when it comes to devices like kindle and paperwhite. When you say you would use the Paperwhite for reading, do you mean reading your resources from Logos, i.e. book resources in Logos. Is there a Logos App that works with the Paperwhite? When you talk about "conversion is no longer as simple as "send to Kindle" are you meaning that a Logos resource needs to somehow be converted before it can be loaded onto a Paperwhite and read? Thanks!

A device like the Paperwhite is not designed for apps of any kind. What you'd need to do is to export any resources from Logos that you want to read on a Paperwhite (or Oasis, or whatever), convert those resources into a Kindle format, and then load them onto the Paperwhite. Those who have experience with resource conversion can tell you how it's done!

However, if you had an Android-based E-Ink device, like the Onyx Boox Nova 2, you could install the Logos app and read resources with no conversion necessary. Just sayin' !

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116058#Comment_1116058

However, if you had an Android-based E-Ink device, like the Onyx Boox Nova 2, you could install the Logos app and read resources with no conversion necessary. Just sayin' !

Well, Mark, go ahead and just hate me (smiling). But I wouldn't touch Android with a 10 ft pole (social distancing). Recently, we got a newer DAC, and purposely stopped the choice for any models using android, viewing west-of-Hong-Kong as a safer bet. Granted, arguable.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116061#Comment_1116061

DAC

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116068#Comment_1116068

?

DAC = digital analog converter or variation; picky for hi-res music

Mark Nolette

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116061#Comment_1116061

Well, Mark, go ahead and just hate me (smiling). But I wouldn't touch Android with a 10 ft pole (social distancing). Recently, we got a newer DAC, and purposely stopped the choice for any models using android, viewing west-of-Hong-Kong as a safer bet. Granted, arguable.

Absolutely no hate whatsoever! As part of my gadget addiction - oops, I mean, collection - I have an iPad mini, a Surface Go 2, and a MacBook Air. Fairly inclusive, n'est-ce pas?

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JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116050#Comment_1116050

I'm computer illiterate when it comes to devices like kindle and paperwhite. When you say you would use the Paperwhite for reading, do you mean reading your resources from Logos, i.e. book resources in Logos. Is there a Logos App that works with the Paperwhite? When you talk about "conversion is no longer as simple as "send to Kindle" are you meaning that a Logos resource needs to somehow be converted before it can be loaded onto a Paperwhite and read? Thanks!

i think your questions have been answered, but the classic “kindle” was an “ e-ink” reader. It isn’t a screen like a smartphone or tablet. Part of the confusion is that Amazon seemingly names everything “kindle.” If they made a car, they would call it a “kindle car.” [:D{

A “paper white“ is a newer, mid level, kindle”e-ink” reader. They make cheaper ones and more expensive ones, but the Paper white is the sweet spot.

Logos used to have a “send to kindle” feature, but for various reasons had to remove it. It isn’t hard to get books to a kindle, but any notes or highlights would be just as far outside of logos as if you were to physically print the book and use a yellow highlighter on paper. Hence the answer was “just for reading”

there are a few “e-ink” Android devices, but not many. Those would be a hybrid between a tablet with apps and an “e-ink” screen. Personally, I would still prefer the paper white for “just reading”. If I needed to read long passages and highlight? Perhaps another story.

Rosie Perera

Depends on where I'm sitting. If I'm at home sitting upright, I prefer my Android tablet. If I'm out and about somewhere (e.g., in a doctor's waiting room) or lying down (on couch or bed), I prefer to read on my phone. And for simple reading (not study) I usually prefer the Kindle app, not Logos. The latter is too slow and it doesn't have most of the books I simply want to read. I have to buy them from Amazon.

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116104#Comment_1116104

I use whatever's handy. Sometimes even a physical copy!

Part of the confusion is that Amazon seemingly names everything “kindle.” If they made a car, they would call it a “kindle car.” [:D{

Well, it would have a screen.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116183#Comment_1116183

Yes it would! [:)]

Peter Ryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116075#Comment_1116075

Mark, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the Surface Go 2.

Would agree with your first recommendation of a Boox 2 for 'just reading' - have one and love it!

But I think the Surface Go 2 would be a nice addition to my Surface Pro 7 when I want to be out of the study but using the full desktop functionality. I don't like the SP7 as a tablet - too scared of damaging it as it's my main machine!

Presume you have the Core M3 version - I previously had a Core M3 Surface Pro which would not have coped well with Logos (though that one only had 4GB ram versus 8). How compromised is it?

Many thanks

Mark Nolette

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116224#Comment_1116224

Peter,

Before the Surface Go 2, I had the original Surface Go. Mine had the Pentium Gold processor with 8gb of RAM and a 128gb SSD. That Go could handle about two-thirds of what I wanted to do in Logos well enough. However, ask it to load a layout, do serious indexing or an involved word search, and be prepared to wait a while. The Surface Go 2, with the Core M3 processor, is a definite step up in terms of performance. It's not only the processor. The Go 2 has a much faster SSD than the original Go did. The Go 2 will still hesitate before loading a layout or anything at that level, but it is much less compromised than the original Go as far as Logos is concerned. The display is slightly larger and slightly improved as well.

As long as you don't expect the Go 2 to match your SP 7, it won't disappoint you. It should work fine for the scenario you envision.

The only negative for me with the Go - and this would be true of the Surface Pro line as well - is that I like working with a laptop... well, on my lap. The stand behind the Go (or Pro) can be uncomfortable, as you would know, unless you have something thick covering your thighs! Brydge is coming out with a keyboard for the Go/Go 2 which will address that issue.

If I did not have an iPad and an iPhone - and thus see the advantage of also having a Mac - then the Go 2 could easily become my only laptop/PC. Logos is the most demanding software I run on it, and it can handle everything else easily enough!

Peter Ryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116230#Comment_1116230

Many thanks Mark, that's really helpful [Y]

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116247#Comment_1116247

Well... looks like I'm really going to be the outlier on the bell curve of user opinions/experiences, but here goes.

I do agree that for just reading, a paper-white/e-ink type of device is probably the easiest on the eyes and if it's a newer version device, it probably has an acceptable refresh rate. And if you're often on the road/traveling when reading, a tablet size device will be the easiest to carry. So those are definitely two advantages to many of the devices mentioned so far.

But for me, the vast majority of my time with Logos is spent at home, so I don't need the level of portability that someone might want if traveling. The device I find myself choosing almost all the time is a fairly compact 15" laptop with a 4K anti-glare screen. I find the combination of the 4K resolution with the antiglare screen to actually be pretty easy on the eyes. I also find this smallish laptop to be very adequate portability wise for around the house, for a weekend get-away at a B&B, or even for a week at a rental lake cabin, while at the same time, giving me very adequate service if I happen to find my "just reading" intention, drifting over into some very light research or study.

Definitely not the most common/popular solution, but I find it very functional. It is nice to have so many device options. [:)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116442#Comment_1116442

Well... looks like I'm really going to be the outlier on the bell curve of user opinions/experiences

But you bring up a good point:

drifting over into some very light research or study.

I've found the best solution is to glue my paperwhite onto my portable's screen. No monograph worth its salt, can escape a rabbit-trail!

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1116445#Comment_1116445

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