Logos 9 Wishlist
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JoshInRI said:
I would love a english pronunciation guide that uses sound to share with readers and users how a word can be correctly pronounced.
I know we have Greek and Hebrew sound files as I have seen them but why not what I call plain english pronunciations.
Imagine reading the Bible publicly and being able to pronounce some of those names and locations with less effort because Logos helped you do so.
imho, this should be a standard feature.,
You may also find this resource helpful: https://www.logos.com/product/7299/thats-easy-for-you-to-say-your-quick-guide-to-pronouncing-bible-names-3rd-ed
It's included in a lot of Logos 8 base packages.
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My wish for Logos 9 is the ability to select several items at once to be taken off device. Why? I need to tighten down on my HDD/SDD space, I need to remove items that I do not use.
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Phil Tuften said:
My wish for Logos 9 is the ability to select several items at once to be taken off device.
We can do this in Logos 8 already
In the Library panel, select a set of resources you want to move and then select the option from the Information Pane
The resources will be removed from your local drive, but still be associated with your account. They will stay show in your library and appear in the Cloud Resources section of search functions.
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I would like the ability to add notes in a similar way as creating visual filters.
Say I find an explanation of a Greek or Hebrew word that I want to be mindful of whenever I study or teach on a passage. I would like to be able to attach a note to every occurrence of that word at one time..
Or, in a similar case, I had a note that I wanted to attach to a list of verses. It would have been good to just be able to list the verses rather than look them up and attach the notes individually.
Thank you
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Word count in sermon doc.
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oldpaths said:
Word count in sermon doc.
It already does a word count (upper right, just below above sermon info. and an "expected speaking time"). Does that not do what you want?
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Bill Shewmaker said:oldpaths said:
Word count in sermon doc.
It already does a word count (upper right, just below above sermon info. and an "expected speaking time"). Does that not do what you want?
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Mea Culpa! I use the expected speaking time each week! Can't believe I didn't see that. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Phil,
Please include a useful pen/pencil tool like that with Accordance for both Mobile and Desktop
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You may also find this resource helpful: https://www.logos.com/product/7299/thats-easy-for-you-to-say-your-quick-guide-to-pronouncing-bible-names-3rd-ed
It's included in a lot of Logos 8 base packages.
I REALLY love that little resource. I keep it pinned and use it often.
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Phil (and FL team):
In case this hasn't come up in this (very long
thread, please review what's referenced here:https://community.logos.com/forums/t/175093.aspx?PageIndex=2
"Polish" or "fit and finish" improvements like these really do go a long way toward the product "feeling" finished and improving user experience.
-Donnie
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Customize Keyboard Functionality: It probably is too late to get any changes into Logos 9 at this late stage of development, but what I would love to see is the ability to create keyboard shortcuts to all features and functions of Logos. Something similar to Microsoft Word's Customize Keyboard functionality. I do use Favorites/Bookmarks but that is limited to 9 shortcuts. I also use the Copy Location as L4 along with the Alfred App to speed up searches, but what is still lacking is a robust system of shortcuts.
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This is brilliant. Thanks for all that you and your team does, Phil!
Reading Plans and Doc sharing are two areas I feel that need the most improvement.
Reading Plans
The creation, navigation, and collaboration that Logos offers is all a bit dated and “clunky” ... and that’s just coming from someone who has used other reading plans apps in order to supplement my expansive Logos library. I have tens of thousands of books in my library, but I still find myself going to other platforms (apps) in order to read books/devotionals or plans together with family and friends.
This seems like it could be much simpler than it is.
Docs
Honestly, it’s much the same here. Most platforms at this price point have some sort of collaborative, built-in text editing to it. Notion, Google Drive, Microsoft, etc. ... there are plenty of great examples. Especially with how easy it is to both share and navigate cloud-based documents these days (i.e., Google Drive), it just seems like it would be incredibly difficult to improve Community Docs and Notebooks.
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My dream wish:
I wish that my Logos Library would include the same lovely layout of categories we find on the base package pages. For example:
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Imagine if we had the option to arrange Library Filters alphabetically to better find what we were looking for.
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GaoLu said:
Imagine if we had the option to arrange Library Filters alphabetically to better find what we were looking for.
Oh. So, maybe like they did in the Aegean a few years back ... alpha, beta, etc. I forget the last one ... something about the end of time.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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O...Mega!
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Another area for improvement is the formatting of tables. Often tables are almost if not entirely unusable on a phone because it tries to adjust the column sizes to fit in the screen, but in doing so cause text in the cells to wrap into multiplel lines. Google Docs does this really well. If you open a Google Docs document on a phone with tables that don't fit, the text reflows as expected but the tables remain fixed width as they were created. As you scroll down the document you can scroll right/left once you get to the table, which pans only the table but not the document text. This would be a very big improvement especially for grammars which contain a lot of tables.
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Robert Kelbe said:
Another area for improvement is the formatting of tables. Often tables are almost if not entirely unusable on a phone because it tries to adjust the column sizes to fit in the screen, but in doing so cause text in the cells to wrap into multiplel lines. Google Docs does this really well. If you open a Google Docs document on a phone with tables that don't fit, the text reflows as expected but the tables remain fixed width as they were created. As you scroll down the document you can scroll right/left once you get to the table, which pans only the table but not the document text. This would be a very big improvement especially for grammars which contain a lot of tables.
Yes. This is my experience as well.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
- What improvements should we make to existing features?
Text Comparison Tool
- move % difference indicator towards the front, in between the translation abbreviation and begging of the verse. This should improve “scanability”. Often times I’m looking for versions that are drastically different from my base version, especially if that version is normally very similar.
- Include an option to turn off text wrapping.
- Standardize the starting position of verses to improve scanability, essentially a three-column view where the version, %, and verse would be lined up.Notes/Notebooks
- Include a notebook icon, especially for Workflow, so that you can still have individual notes, but rather than each one showing up on your verse, only the notebook is visible. When you hover over the icon, as a note icon, you would see a preview of the contents of the notebook.Clippings
- include a “peg board” view in clippings that allows you to stack/collect like-clippings in what would essentially be a subfolder within the note. Larger search projects become too burdensome for the simple list view.Workflows
- make workflow Q/A input boxes fully editable like a notes document
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:- What new features should we add?
NEW TOOL: Text Editor (not to be confused with Sermon editor)
- Personally, I feel the sermon editor needs to remain sermon/presentation focused. But I also like the idea of being able to write articles and more extensive notes in Logos. (Honestly, this is something that could be done within notes, if more text editor/html/markdown features were included.)Layouts
- include a “send resource here” function similar to “send hyperlink here” Ideally this would be done to help keep a clean desktop so that only one resource is open at a time. You could limit it based on tags, type, collections, “everything”, etc.0 -
I would really like to see more tools for the non-academics like interactives (both updates to the current ones and new ones) for use in presentations to small groups and classes.
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In searching All Resources, I'd like a new option: besides Ranked, By Resource, and By Count, I'd also like to see By Publication Date.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Ben said:
In searching All Resources, I'd like a new option: besides Ranked, By Resource, and By Count, I'd also like to see By Publication Date.
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“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I have a case here where I would like to tag multiple verses with a note. Like a visual filter, but for notes.
Anything remotely like that currently available?
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Any reason you can't use multiple anchors to achieve this?
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hmmm, I don't know.
Never used anchors. Let me play around with that and see.
thank you
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I think this would require me to identify all the verses first, while a visual filter just does that for me.
Right?
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Yes, with note-anchors, you have to add all the verses you wanted to reference in the note. So, are you seeking a feature that would enable users to create a rule within a note that would then automatically tag other verses that meet the rule criteria? If so, how would that work (not from a technical standpoint, but what would the feature look like and how would one use/benefit from it)?
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One example.
I have an enormous physical library that I am working to index, so when I study something I know what books have that information.
This one book has a study on John's use of ginosko and oida. So I'm thinking how can I link the uses of these words to that resource. I created a visual filter for these words, so I know there is something significant here, but I won't remember in the future what it was.
I suppose I can do a Bible word study, write down the references, and then enter them to a note on one of the words in John. Will that put a note on all the other verses?
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OK. This is working but very time consuming.
Thank you. I wish Logos would do the work just like the visual filter is.
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I'm adding anchors here, but the anchor is added to the verse. Ideally I would like them to be added to the corresponding words.
thank you again for your help
I learned something today
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I would like the favorites panel to be able to hold the resources I use the most with the ability to link favorite Bibles, commentaries, and books to the passage panel. In that way the major screen could be bigger, but someone could click on a commentary, copy Bible verses, or an alternate translation and have them open in a panel linked to the passage one is working on.
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Edward, have you tried to use Layouts for this? It's not precisely what you want but it is Logos' solution for the general issue. And welcome to the forums - stick around and ask questions, give answers, make suggestions ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Higher potential screen resolution for desktop.
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Make a one click all linkset for all resource panels open.
The same way you can collapse all please make it so I can linkset everything open into a linkset.
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James Matthew Johnson said:
Make a one click all linkset for all resource panels open.
The same way you can collapse all please make it so I can linkset everything open into a linkset.
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I would love to have a document/ ebook reader / viewer in Logos. Let me view pdfs, word docs, and other ebooks from within the program. Maybe have the ability to have them show up in libray and searched with a note or icon that shows they are not logos resources and are not likable.
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I would love a dark mode added to the desktop version of logos.
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scooter said:
Dark Mode # 1 voting continues to increase in the Top 3 Logos 8 UserVoice suggestions:
2,499 Votes (+31) => Night Mode for PC/Mac (+1,457 since 3 Dec 2019)
1,204 Votes (+3) => Import/Export notes to/from Evernote. (+48 since 3 Dec 2019)
1,030 Votes (+3) => Focus on tablet and touchscreen features (+167 since 3 Dec 2019)
Note: 2,499 votes represents a minimum of 833 users voting for Dark Mode (since every Logos & Verbum can freely place up to 3 of their 10 votes on one UserVoice suggestion). From watching incremental voting increases, humanly guessing over 909 users are voting for Dark Mode. Considering Logos & Verbum user community size, number of votes could be substantially increased.
Periodically update Suggestions thread => Dark Mode with Top 3 voting progress.
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Apologies if this has already been posted, but it would be great to be able to set the default number of columns for a new pane (especially to 'auto') - this would greatly help those using ultrawide or larger monitors.
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I'd want the full feature set on the iPad with Pencil support.
The ability to handwrite notes on top of the Logos books. Handwritten notes could be a "visual filter" that could turn on and off.
Some sort of fast scrubbing/book overview feature. When I grab a physical book, I flip through all the pages back and forth quickly to get a grasp of the entire book. This is different than clicking through the table of contents, I basically want to know how long and where certain topics are located in a book in relation to its total page length.
Ability to remap keyboard shortcuts.
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We can only dream.
Blessings in Christ.
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Now that Wordsearch has been purchased by Logos, that makes me want to answer this question. I used both platforms. I would like to see Logos have a setting where you could pick a layout that functions just like Wordsearch. I really enjoyed the simplicity of Wordsearch and that Bible and resource automatically coordinated without having to mess with anything. I also like the way the Complete Biblical Library coordinates and operates in Wordsearch. I also strongly prefer the way the Preacher's outline and sermon Bible functions in Wordsearch. In Logos it looks like the original book which is great, but I think that Wordsearch has made it more useful by having the outline, notes and deeper study separate so that you can click on the outline and see the notes side by side. I am sure that Wordsearch has many other such coordination tools of which I am unaware. I think that Logos in acquiring Wordsearch should seek to maintain all of the things that Wordsearch did better.
Honestly, I would be really happy if Logos upgraded and maintained the Wordsearch platform and make it a choice in their options and tools. They could keep the original simple Wordsearch design and get the bugs out of it. That would make me super happy.
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Tim Nargi said:
iPad with Pencil support.
Tim,
Have you upgraded to Ios 14 yet? Part of ios14 for Ipad is the ability to write in any field that allows text to be inserted. I have been using the Logos mobile app the last few days since upgrading to ios 14 to write handwritten notes in the notes feature as well as in mobile ed courses where text can be added.
Its a little clunky at the moment but it works.
Hopefully with time it will get better.
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Cathy Tunnell said:
Now that Wordsearch has been purchased by Logos, that makes me want to answer this question. I used both platforms. I would like to see Logos have a setting where you could pick a layout that functions just like Wordsearch. I really enjoyed the simplicity of Wordsearch and that Bible and resource automatically coordinated without having to mess with anything. I also like the way the Complete Biblical Library coordinates and operates in Wordsearch. I also strongly prefer the way the Preacher's outline and sermon Bible functions in Wordsearch. In Logos it looks like the original book which is great, but I think that Wordsearch has made it more useful by having the outline, notes and deeper study separate so that you can click on the outline and see the notes side by side. I am sure that Wordsearch has many other such coordination tools of which I am unaware. I think that Logos in acquiring Wordsearch should seek to maintain all of the things that Wordsearch did better.
Honestly, I would be really happy if Logos upgraded and maintained the Word search platform and make it a choice in their options and tools. They could keep the original simple Word search design and get the bugs out of it. That would make me super happy.
You can suggest your wish on Logos wish list and I have no doubt that Faithlife can do it more than you imagine.
Blessings in Christ.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What are the most important things we should solve for Logos 9?
Startup performance. I am on Windows and I often need to get into a Bible app quickly to look for something. Logos takes about 3 times longer to start up than Wordsearch (and Wordsearch is already about as slow as I can stand).
For this reason I only use Logos when I have to. I actually use a third app which starts up in half the time that Wordsearch does and gets me right into the Bible.
So I would appreciate it if Logos were a lot snappier.
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Nathan Tyler said:
Startup performance. I am on Windows and I often need to get into a Bible app quickly to look for something. Logos takes about 3 times longer to start up than Wordsearch (and Wordsearch is already about as slow as I can stand).
For this reason I only use Logos when I have to. I actually use a third app which starts up in half the time that Wordsearch does and gets me right into the Bible.
Since this is your first post, I don't know if your experience reflects that usage level. You can at least double the speed of startup by not loading your previous layout on startup and not automatically updating. Open it blank. I was doing this before I upgraded my computer and I still do it. On a good machine with decent internet, you can be up in about 15 seconds or so. If you don't load Logos often, you will also get bogged down in updating which can make it more unpleasant.
Logos is getting better at performance. But optimizing your startup will help right now. And one other thing. If you go ahead and have it started up and settled in, it is ready to use. Logos starts fast for me now, but I often leave it up. So I can check things whenever I want. I also have it on my tablet for ready reference.
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