Thompson Chain Reference resources

I've been a Wordsearch user for many years. What made me choose them over all other Bible software platforms is that they had the Thompson Chain Reference tools available. I use the Thompson Chain Reference tools in Wordsearch all the time (for virtually every sermon/bible study I prepare). I see the Thompson Chain resources on the list that will be available someday, any idea when that day will be? Honestly, Logos is not very useful to me until I have the Thompson Chain resources.

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Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Sorry, we don't have specific dates to announce for any particular titles on the "Still coming from Wordsearch" list.

Bill Shewmaker

Harry, not to be antagonistic, but you still have WORDsearch. I, like you, opted for WS because of the TCR many years ago and I still use it regularly. As long as this computer continues to work, I will still have WS. It has not been disabled. Hope this helps.

Phil Gons (Logos)

I'll see if we can bump it up in our priority queue.

The Flanary's

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117385#Comment_1117385

Thanks Phil, Thompson is one of my corner pieces as well, both printed and digital

Harry Colegrove

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117344#Comment_1117344

No antagonism detected bro! Yes, I am very thankful that Wordsearch is still functioning. I am really enjoying what I have seen in Logos so far, I just don't like the idea of switching between two Bible Study programs to do what I want. (First World preacher problems! [:D] ) Looking forward to seeing TCR in Logos!

Nathan Parker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117416#Comment_1117416

Can't wait for TCR in Logos. That's going on my Prioritized list once it's out!

David Taylor, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117385#Comment_1117385

I'll see if we can bump it up in our priority queue.

I know based on other threads in the past that there is a big desire from Logos users to have the TCR in their libraries. I will definitely be picking up a copy when it is ready.

Ruben Sandoval

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117416#Comment_1117416

I've been a Wordsearch user for many years. What made me choose them over all other Bible software platforms is that they had the Thompson Chain Reference tools available. I use the Thompson Chain Reference tools in Wordsearch all the time (for virtually every sermon/bible study I prepare). I see the Thompson Chain resources on the list that will be available someday, any idea when that day will be? Honestly, Logos is not very useful to me until I have the Thompson Chain resources.

Welcome to Logos, my bro!
Definitely looking forward to TCR being up in Logos, too! Hoping it will be as intuitive to use here as it is/was in WS.

"First world preacher problems" -- ROFL ...yes!!

Thankful for sure!!

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117510#Comment_1117510

Unless I'm mistaken, I think that functionality should be largely present in Logos already.

Might need to make a post over in the general or L8 forum to get better advice on how to make that happen until TCR is available in Logos.

Might not be Thompsons chains directly, but you should be able to fairly easily find connections between situations or people that are referenced in multiple books of the bible.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117600#Comment_1117600

Unless I'm mistaken, I think that functionality should be largely present in Logos already.

For anyone not familiar with 'chains' (TRB itself has much more), below from Wikipedia:

First, the TRB chains are more convenient and easy to follow. But if I wanted similar functionality, I'd link my favorite Bible to a CitedBy tool with Jerome Smith's New Treasury resource. A looser connect would probably be either topics or Factbook?

cshover8669

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117610#Comment_1117610

I too cannot wait until TCR comes to Logos. I have dutifully checked the logos website every 6 months since starting to use the tool to see if TCR is on prepub yet. It is also one of the main reasons I still kept WordSearch even though Logos has been my main program for years. I cannot wait!!!!

Thanks, Carla

Christopher Easton

Not to be redundant but I have been waiting for a Logos version of Thompson Chain! I use my printed copy daily and will be buying a copy when it is out too!

cshover8669

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1118538#Comment_1118538

Me too.

David Thomas

For the benefit of those who are new to Logos and may only be following the Wordsearch area of the Forum, Thompson has been requested before the acquisition and is available in Spanish (https://es.logos.com/product/55132/notas-de-la-biblia-de-referencia-thompson), so it should be relatively simple to implement the English. Also, some of the other forums suggest other resources in Logos that act similarly to the Chain system of cross referencing.

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/171397.aspx

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/346.aspx

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/104215.aspx

Faithlife had to put some restrictions on the Forum because it was getting bombarded by SPAM. These restrictions crashed the ability to effectively search the forum for other posts that may address one's questions.

This information on HOW TO SEARCH THE FORUM is found in the Wiki:

Searching the forum using Google

Since the forum search functionality is so limited, many people prefer to use Google with site:community.logos.com as one of the search terms. Then you can narrow it down as much as you like using the power of Google’s boolean operators (AND and OR).

AND is the default when terms are combined together with no operators between, or you can be explicit about it using AND.
You can specify OR using the vertical bar or “pipe” character (|) which is shorthand for OR (the latter works as well).
You can omit specific terms from the search results by preceding them with a minus sign (-) with no spaces between.
Google search understands the wildcard character (*).
You can combine boolean operators in complex ways using curly brackets { } (equivalent to parentheses in Logos searches).
You can restrict the results to a particular sub-forum (say, the Logos 5 forum) by including the “breadcrumb” text that appears at the top of any thread in that forum, e.g.: “Home > Logos 5”.
For more information about Google Search capabilities, see Basic search help and More search help

Jeremy Ellis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117385#Comment_1117385

I'm another that would love to see the chains, notes, maps and charts from the TCR!

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1139302#Comment_1139302

TCR shows "In progress"... just wondering..... any updates on when?

I still use WS.... but am looking forward to the day when don't have to load WS....

glenn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1149319#Comment_1149319

Any updates on TCR? I just updated to V10 and it's neither in my library, nor available for purchase.

Thanks in advance.

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298373#Comment_1298373

Any updates on TCR?

1. change your user name or internet bots can capture your email and spam the daylights out of you.

2. TCR has been in my Logos Library for over 2 years.

perhaps it was made available to those who owned it in WordSearch but is not available for new purchases because the tagging and searching in Logos produces much of the same type of information as a Chain Reference book.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298373#Comment_1298373

Any updates on TCR? I just updated to V10 and it's neither in my library, nor available for purchase.

This thread is very old. The TCR was delivered in Logos format as a bundle of several volumes years ago - and to former owners of it in Wordsearch, it was free. This was an automated process, based on identical eMail address as identifier.

Just in case: https://ref.ly/logosres/ws-58e1b952cb1745b4b3351f99d0b0c0e5?hw=119+Alpha links to the chain 119 in the index volume in my library.

Your comment led me to check, and unfortunately the TCR seems not to be available for purchase right now (except for a Spanish language book). If you think you should have a license to the TCR, and your Logos is set to download all licensed books, the command Update Resources should invoke a download of books you have a valid license for and are missing from your library, thus triggering the TCR to download to your system. Otherwise you might need to check the license situation with Customer Service.

glenn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298376#Comment_1298376

Thanks re the user name. I can't make the change in my post. My profile name doesn't include email. Not sure how it got there.

glenn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298381#Comment_1298381

Thanks, I'll check.

glenn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298381#Comment_1298381

I checked out the link. I had WORDsearch back when it was Libronix Home Study Library. Sadly, it must have gotten lost along the way. By the way, I thought $150.00 for that software was steep at the time. It was well worth the investment. I guess when it became LOGOS maybe I lost my old library.

Thanks for checking though. Back to the hard copy for me.

glenn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298381#Comment_1298381

@NB.Mick I just realized how to reply to your post! As you can see, I'm still getting up to speed on these things!

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117385#Comment_1117385

I'll see if we can bump it up in our priority queue.

That would be greatly apreciated Phil. Thanks!

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298541#Comment_1298541

I'll see if we can bump it up in our priority queue.

That would be greatly apreciated Phil. Thanks!

??? Phil did this in 2020 and the TCR subsequently shipped.

Nathan Parker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298543#Comment_1298543

My copy from Wordsearch that migrated over to Logos is the one from Kirkbride Bible Company. Looking at ChristianBook.com, it seems the latest print edition is now published by Zondervan (Zondervan acquired Kirkbride?). Looks like an updated edition that's not available electronically yet?

Nathan Parker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298553#Comment_1298553

Which mine from Wordsearch did migrate over, even if it is the older/Kirkbride edition. I still use it since it matches the one I have in print.

Charlie Ferrell

Here's the link to the WORDsearch Bible software users group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/471575357940187

Lucy Victoria

The Thompson Chain resources for Logos are expected to be available, but there's no confirmed release date yet. Logos will become more useful to you once those resources are integrated. Keep an eye on their updates for the latest information.

Lucy Victoria